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		| Originally posted by Wiggles i think its bad because you bought a Caravan, just the fact that its a van should be an understanding that its going to be crap.
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 I don't see how you come to that conclusion.. I haven't talked to a single caravan owner who wasn't totally happy with their van.  Our Caravan is the ES edition, all wheel drive, every option except adjustable pedals, long wheel base.  We bought a vehicle that would retain it's resale value.  If we had paid $10,000 for it, I can understand it believe a piece of shit, but we paid close to $40,000 for it used.  I would think that would ensure some kind of quality :P