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NastyDollars issues, or what else?

11-14-2004, 09:06 PM

Someone ICQ'd me out of the blue saying their ND referral code was getting replaced on one of the tours join pages with "mcommerce_a".

I cant replicate the problem from my computer, so I'm assuming it's IP based problem, or spyware, or what?? I advised her to run adaware. Any other suggestions I can pass along?

Thanks.

ps: reminded me of this thread is why I brought it here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...46#post4662218

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11-14-2004, 09:13 PM

Now it seems all their sites are down? doh. Guess everyone is busy checking their links

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11-14-2004, 09:42 PM

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Someone ICQ'd me out of the blue saying their ND referral code was getting replaced on one of the tours join pages with "mcommerce_a".

I cant replicate the problem from my computer, so I'm assuming it's IP based problem, or spyware, or what?? I advised her to run adaware. Any other suggestions I can pass along?

Thanks.

ps: reminded me of this thread is why I brought it here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...46#post4662218

I had that exact same problem. I visited my affiliate link to a nastydollar site and it was replaced with that exact same ID "mcommerce_a"!!

This has only happened to me once and I have not been able to duplicate the error either. I do not have any spyware on my computer.

I emailed nastydollars about this problem. They took almost 1 month to reply to me and when they did, they told me they could not duplicate the error.

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11-14-2004, 09:44 PM

I think the programmers are doing something shifty..

login to nastydollars and click PROMOTIONAL material then click amateurmovies and then hosted galleries and the ref codes are all wrong...

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11-14-2004, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I think the programmers are doing something shifty..

login to nastydollars and click PROMOTIONAL material then click amateurmovies and then hosted galleries and the ref codes are all wrong...

I am sleepy

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11-14-2004, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by OzMan
I am sleepy

heh you had me confused from before edit

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11-14-2004, 09:58 PM

my fucking id says "born" what the fuck is that shit about .

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11-14-2004, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by ikonworx
my fucking id says "born" what the fuck is that shit about .

mine too

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11-14-2004, 10:04 PM

ND shady? Who woulda thought

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11-14-2004, 10:16 PM

My nd onversions for the past month have dropped to 1/9000 , 1/1000 is normal for me and has been for the past year

I checked all my links several times over the past few weeks figuring something was fucked but couldnt find anything wrong

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11-14-2004, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Someone ICQ'd me out of the blue saying their ND referral code was getting replaced on one of the tours join pages with "mcommerce_a".

I cant replicate the problem from my computer, so I'm assuming it's IP based problem, or spyware, or what?? I advised her to run adaware. Any other suggestions I can pass along?

Thanks.

ps: reminded me of this thread is why I brought it here http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...46#post4662218

I hope Nastydollars addresses this issue. It cant be coincidence that 2 affiliates with no relation or contact are both reporting that their ID's were replaced with "mcommerce_a" while visiting a nastydollar site through their affiliate link.

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11-14-2004, 10:19 PM

there programming probably got fucked up.
Or they hired a programmer who is skimming

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11-14-2004, 10:22 PM

Is ND down? I can't access the site.

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11-14-2004, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Tom_PM
Now it seems all their sites are down? doh. Guess everyone is busy checking their links

Hmm, their sites have been down for over an hour now.

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11-14-2004, 10:23 PM

my conversions dropped tremendously from ~1/400 to about 1/1000

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11-14-2004, 10:24 PM

hmmm, I just loaded the hosted galleries page and it pulled them all from

http://eq1f.purextc.com/thelist.htm?site=

with id=born instead of mine

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11-14-2004, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
I think the programmers are doing something shifty..

login to nastydollars and click PROMOTIONAL material then click amateurmovies and then hosted galleries and the ref codes are all wrong...

All I gotta say is WTF!? You're right... who the fuck is born
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11-14-2004, 11:10 PM

I get the same thing with that "born" thing, but it only occurs when going to the FHG's through AllAmateurMovies coz it then calls all FHG's from:
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/main.htm?id=born

My link codes are all ok, nothing gets changed I've checked them all

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11-14-2004, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by pradaboy
I get the same thing with that "born" thing, but it only occurs when going to the FHG's through AllAmateurMovies coz it then calls all FHG's from:
http://gallys.nastydollars.com/main.htm?id=born

My link codes are all ok, nothing gets changed I've checked them all

I got born on the cumfiesta galleries

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11-14-2004, 11:15 PM

Isnt this the same problem as a few months ago?
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11-14-2004, 11:16 PM

This is a fucking joke
no wonder they converted so fucking aweful over the last couple of weeks.

Last month i was 1:3489 which is 1 fucking cent a unique... I used to be at 11 cents.
You do the math.

NastyD: FIX THIS and credit me my lost money otherwise links will be replaced.
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11-14-2004, 11:21 PM

The name is Born, ...James Born

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11-14-2004, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by Battuss
Isnt this the same problem as a few months ago?

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11-14-2004, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Battuss
Isnt this the same problem as a few months ago?

No, what is happening is 1 out of X number of times someone clicks on your nastydollars link, your ID is being replaced with the ID "mcommerce_a".

I brought this to the attention of nastydollars and they were not able to resolve the problem because they could not duplicate it. How can they duplicate this problem though when 1 out of lets say 10,000 times someone clicks your link they get redirected. It is unlikely they will see this redirection when checking for the problem.

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11-14-2004, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by Trax
This is a fucking joke
no wonder they converted so fucking aweful over the last couple of weeks.

Last month i was 1:3489 which is 1 fucking cent a unique... I used to be at 11 cents.
You do the math.

NastyD: FIX THIS and credit me my lost money otherwise links will be replaced.

strange tho, I have not seen any problems with my actual link codes and sales/conversions are still normal for me.

I do get the problem on the FHG's tho,luckily I don't use those

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11-15-2004, 12:16 AM

My ND ratios have been horrible for a while now. From 1:300 to 1:700.

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11-15-2004, 12:22 AM

Must be one of those GLITCHES again.
Seriously, BS can only stretch so far. If there's a problem with a ratio'd ID, then it has to be in the code which SHOULD have been picked up ... unless their programmers are shady.

If those are infact current conversions, then you guys are idiots if you still have their active links up.

I currently do not have any ND links up, so I cannot give any recent experiences.

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11-15-2004, 02:11 AM

Ratio has dropped from 1:300 to more 1:1500 for me last few months. Something funny is going on.
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11-15-2004, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by Donners
Ratio has dropped from 1:300 to more 1:1500 for me last few months. Something funny is going on.

yeah, we all know that if you keep promoting the same porn sites with the same traffic that the conversion ratios should ALWAYS stay the same.

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11-15-2004, 02:17 AM

this happens sometimes when its malfuntioning.

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11-15-2004, 02:20 AM

This is called: "profit optimization".
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11-15-2004, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by beemk
yeah, we all know that if you keep promoting the same porn sites with the same traffic that the conversion ratios should ALWAYS stay the same.

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11-15-2004, 03:23 AM

Nasty dodgy?
Not on your fucking life, they are the most trustworthy company I've ever dealt with, they rule )))

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11-15-2004, 04:59 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
login to nastydollars and click PROMOTIONAL material then click amateurmovies and then hosted galleries and the ref codes are all wrong...

RE: Wrong link codes in FHGs...

So it's a bug - what's the big deal?

Just change the 'wrong id' and put in yours - the FHGs are generated with 'your links' and it's fixed!

I tried it - it works.

RE: Your affiliate code getting replaced with another 'affiliate' after your link is clicked...

As far as I understand from this thread, currently, there have been more Elvis sitings that confirmed repeats of the 'problem'?

Can anyone cause this to happen with certainty?

RE: Conversions being lower...

This is something I have experienced as well and I miss the old days.

But, I have been putting this off to market saturation. I track all my outbound traffic and my ND affiliate stats balance fine with my figures.

I still get sales and the conversions are not worse (usually better) than other popular sponsors.

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11-15-2004, 05:15 AM

User Name already taken. mcommerce_a

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11-15-2004, 05:33 AM

I'm having no issues with ND at this point, conversions well under 1 in 800, no tricks, no major playing around...

As a programmer, I can tell you that at times, a very slight error or minor oversight on a new page can have unintended results. Changes in PHP in the last year have lead to a bunch of programs having minors issues that have been resolved as they go along. If you are that worried, promote someone else, I will gladly sell the membership and take the money :-)

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11-15-2004, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by ClamSmacker
User Name already taken. mcommerce_a

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11-15-2004, 05:39 AM

i checked my links and all seem good.
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11-15-2004, 05:44 AM

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User Name already taken. mcommerce_a

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11-15-2004, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
i checked my links and all seem good.

mine too, if this is an error that occurs every 1 in 10,000 clicks it would be hard to generate tho.

I just hope ND inspects their scripts because this kind of shit has happened before.

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11-15-2004, 06:34 AM

For people asking if this is the same issue from 5 months ago, yeah I did provide a link to the old thread in my first post. The problem rang a bell so I dug it up..

Dont be confused on the actual problem: You can paste or click a link with her referral code, follow the tour and click on any Join page link. When you hit the join page, her ID is gone, and in it's place is "mcommerce_a". Thats the issue.

Not a FHG listed in their site with someone elses code, a direct link WITH her code automagically changes to someone elses. And it's always the SAME someone else.

Yes programmers know that a comma here or there will fuck up parsing data, but it's quite a stretch to imagine the same issue repeating the same exact result time and time again ;)

Note: My own link code I've never seen a problem with. Nor can I repeat the same problem from my connection that she's getting. Thats why in my original post I suggested that perhaps it's an IP based issue or regional issue. However we're both in the U.S., so that seems unlikely.

At any rate, clearly if NastyDollars can't replicate the result, they don't know where to look to repair the problem, which is disturbing to me personally, and more than enough reason to not put their links up.

Sorry ND, there is a serious issue on your end of the deal.. Please consider hiring an outside data security firm or something to monitor the data stream in and out of your servers from end-user, to database. I'm sure you can find the error and report success in crushing it. Soem sleuthing would solve it I'm sure. Like checking TTL on packets to see how far away the new data is inserted or something. Hell if I know.

Anyway, thanks for the replies.. figured bringing it here would confirm AND deny the issue ;)

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11-15-2004, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by dcortez
RE: Wrong link codes in FHGs...

So it's a bug - what's the big deal?

Just change the 'wrong id' and put in yours - the FHGs are generated with 'your links' and it's fixed!

I tried it - it works.

umm a bug that replaces my ref code is a rather big deal.

especially when the id is not an obvious in house ref name , and if it is , why are there so many in house affiliates showing up

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11-15-2004, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
umm a bug that replaces my ref code is a rather big deal.

Of course, it would be better if the FHG's defaulted to your own affiliate code, but we're living in rapid application development mode (RAD) and stuff like this happens (I've been developing for 25 years). I wish Windows was bug-free.

I appreciate not having to build my galleries from scratch and having ND pay for the bandwidth. I'm sure it will get fixed. But, it's not a show stopper.

The only ones really affected by this problem are those that don't verify their links when their pages are built.

Anyone who notices the problem, can submit a bug report to ND support and easily bypass the problem until ND rolls out the fix.

It's not like you can't get FHGs created with your links in them - it's just that the link that defaults to build your FHGs is wrong.

BTW: Noted, that this problem is not the one original posted by thread initiator.

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11-15-2004, 08:29 AM

nothing official yet?
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11-15-2004, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by dcortez
Of course, it would be better if the FHG's defaulted to your own affiliate code, but we're living in rapid application development mode (RAD) and stuff like this happens (I've been developing for 25 years). I wish Windows was bug-free.

I appreciate not having to build my galleries from scratch and having ND pay for the bandwidth. I'm sure it will get fixed. But, it's not a show stopper.

The only ones really affected by this problem are those that don't verify their links when their pages are built.

Anyone who notices the problem, can submit a bug report to ND support and easily bypass the problem until ND rolls out the fix.

It's not like you can't get FHGs created with your links in them - it's just that the link that defaults to build your FHGs is wrong.

BTW: Noted, that this problem is not the one original posted by thread initiator.

-Dino

You sure dont sound like your a developer , you sound like a pr dude

What does RAD have to do with a HARDCODED ref urls showing up in my stats area. ??

Yes i appreciate free hosted galeries too( every sponsor has them ) , but i dont appreciate them so much that im going to send them free traffic.

Yes i can edit each gallery by hand , but frankly that doesn't cut the mustard , and instead i will go with another sponsor for that niche.

The last time this happened i started checking and noticed LOTS of ref code swapping in the galleries and links.

The first thing they need to do is close all the inhouse accounts and reset them up with ref codes that tell me im not getting ripped off.

Or write some code to return the user if an inhouse ref code is found from an incoming link

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11-15-2004, 10:28 AM

they seem to be really slow or down for the last day

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11-15-2004, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
You sure dont sound like your a developer , you sound like a pr dude

Nah, that's just the patience which develops after managing daily customer support for mainstream client/server app with a 100,000+ active subscribers.

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
What does RAD have to do with a HARDCODED ref urls showing up in my stats area. ??

Nothing whatsoever.

My reference to RAD was to remind us that our sponsors are hauling their butts to keep up with the Jones' and mistakes happen along the way such as in the gallery building code.

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Yes i appreciate free hosted galeries too( every sponsor has them ) , but i dont appreciate them so much that im going to send them free traffic.

Yes i can edit each gallery by hand , but frankly that doesn't cut the mustard , and instead i will go with another sponsor for that niche.

I wouldn't send them free traffic either. As long as the FHG I'm pointing to has my affiliate codes, there's no problem.

I'm not sure why you have to edit galleries by hand. There is just a single link for each site generates all your gallery links. One change per site affects/fixes all the galleries for that site - no need to go through each gallery.

In any case, hopefully all this will be moot shortly.

Does anyone know the GFY ID of any NastyDollars reps?

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11-15-2004, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
they seem to be really slow or down for the last day

Their sites were down for about an hour and a half yesterday, but loading fine for me now.

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11-15-2004, 12:40 PM

I was starting to wonder why my conversions have been so shitty with nd the last few weeks.
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11-15-2004, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by ClamSmacker
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