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  • quiet
    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
    • Sep 2001
    • 25115

    #51
    Originally posted by bdjuf


    why not invest in the canadian government?
    bonds? that's around 3% right?
    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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    • stocktrader23
      Let's do some business.
      • Jan 2003
      • 18781

      #52
      Originally posted by quiet
      all i'd ever ask is a garanteed 10% every single year (hell, i'd take 8%), with zero risk, for the rest of my life. i would be in nirvana. instead, it will always be a job.
      Would love to send you 10% year after year and keep everything over. But it makes no difference, you wouldn't trust me with $20,000 much less a million or 3.

      Here's to finding your 10%.


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      • Petr
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        • Mar 2002
        • 502

        #53
        capital secured growth funds

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        • quiet
          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
          • Sep 2001
          • 25115

          #54
          Originally posted by stocktrader23


          Would love to send you 10% year after year and keep everything over. But it makes no difference, you wouldn't trust me with $20,000 much less a million or 3.

          Here's to finding your 10%.
          you never did send me that email you said you would
          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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          • stocktrader23
            Let's do some business.
            • Jan 2003
            • 18781

            #55
            Originally posted by quiet


            you never did send me that email you said you would
            Man I thought you were ignoring me! Damn Time Warner and their screwed up email, I'll send it again.

            By the way, real estate is definately nice here. My friends $50,000 property brings in just over $1000 a month and you can do much better than that even. You should check somewhere that isn't so overpriced already.


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            "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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            • quiet
              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
              • Sep 2001
              • 25115

              #56
              Originally posted by stocktrader23


              Man I thought you were ignoring me! Damn Time Warner and their screwed up email, I'll send it again.

              By the way, real estate is definately nice here. My friends $50,000 property brings in just over $1000 a month and you can do much better than that even. You should check somewhere that isn't so overpriced already.
              no email...

              50K = 1K/month is incredible.

              but cheap property doesn't mean anything, by itself....
              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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              • stocktrader23
                Let's do some business.
                • Jan 2003
                • 18781

                #57
                Originally posted by quiet


                no email...

                50K = 1K/month is incredible.

                but cheap property doesn't mean anything, by itself....
                It's just the market here. He had to turn down a $30,000 house recently because of no capital. It rents for $600 as is and it's not in the best shape. Everything around rents for a decent amount because of the air force base we have but the prices to purchase are way out of whack in comparison to most of the country. You could probably buy 20 $30,000 to $40,000 properties this month that rent for $550 to $650.

                And the funniest thing of all around here, a $5000 used trailer in a trailer park rents for $400 to $600 as well.


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                "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                • AWW - Kevin
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 2353

                  #58
                  what's your email quiet ? was going to send the answer to something you asked me a week back


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                  • RP Fade
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3343

                    #59
                    Originally posted by quiet
                    once you're rich, you face a lifetime of retaining that wealth. how do you do it? discuss...
                    Diversify..stocks, bonds, mutual funds, 401k, real estate (income properties, commercial and residential) and create budget for yourself that you can adhere to comfortably, yet strictly. Don't over-extend or over-leverage yourself and create too many liabilities.

                    Of course, once you've become a millionaire you will also have a substantial and steady cash flow as well.
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                    • bcooter
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 797

                      #60
                      30k and 50k for houses??? where the fuck are you guys????

                      cheapest house i had ever shown was 68k, and the only way to make it livable was to tear it down and start over. and it was in the ghetto.
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                      • JulianSosa
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                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3042

                        #61
                        Originally posted by quiet
                        all i'd ever ask is a garanteed 10% every single year (hell, i'd take 8%), with zero risk, for the rest of my life. i would be in nirvana. instead, it will always be a job.
                        Quiet
                        I know a guy who makes 12% on hard cash loans for property
                        Mostly commercial/land stuff over 10% down

                        He has 20+ mil out there. Made all his money on stocks but doesnt want the risk now days

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                        • quiet
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 25115

                          #62
                          Originally posted by JulianSosa


                          Quiet
                          I know a guy who makes 12% on hard cash loans for property
                          Mostly commercial/land stuff over 10% down

                          He has 20+ mil out there. Made all his money on stocks but doesnt want the risk now days
                          sounds wonderful, which is also the problem.

                          ultraquiet at mac dot com
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                          • beemk
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 20829

                            #63
                            Originally posted by stocktrader23


                            $8000 a month for a mill invested? Pfff. Could easily pull down $20,000 to $40,000 a month with 1 million in real estate here. Still shitty returns if you ask me.
                            plus the value that the houses go up over time. if i really did get all that $ and i had a lot of time to put into it, i would more like buy 50-75 all with mortgages and use most of the million for the down payments and use some for minimal work on the houses and make sure i save a lot for the payments when i dont have renters and if anything goes wrong. that way the renters are paying your mortgage and you make a small profit. the only problem is finding the good deals on the houses, that will take a long time, you can just find 50 houses overnight.
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                            • Brujah
                              Beer Money Baron
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22157

                              #64
                              Originally posted by quiet
                              you can't stay away from my threads
                              was I supposed to ?

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                              • Brujah
                                Beer Money Baron
                                • Jan 2001
                                • 22157

                                #65
                                The things you own, end up owning you. It's only after you've lost everything that you're free to do anything.

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                                • stocktrader23
                                  Let's do some business.
                                  • Jan 2003
                                  • 18781

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by bcooter
                                  30k and 50k for houses??? where the fuck are you guys????

                                  cheapest house i had ever shown was 68k, and the only way to make it livable was to tear it down and start over. and it was in the ghetto.
                                  Louisiana. I was dead serious about $5000 trailers pulling $400 to $600 a month as well. It's crazy how different it is compared to other places but it's been like this forever. Even if you splurged for a new $20,000 trailer to rent at $500 a month you'd be making a killing.


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                                  "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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                                  • quiet
                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 25115

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Brujah


                                    was I supposed to ?
                                    of course not
                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                    • Brujah
                                      Beer Money Baron
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 22157

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by quiet
                                      of course not
                                      I love you man!

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                                      • Keev
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2001
                                        • 5335

                                        #69
                                        You guys keep reffering to houses under 100k where the heck is this? Midwest or ? I don't think homes in california can be found for under 250-350k....

                                        As far as investments I like commerical properties, never been fond of stocks and bonds since you can make better returns investing in other investments.
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                                        • The Other Steve
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                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 2106

                                          #70
                                          Jump on a plane and come to Queensland but bring your cheque book with you.

                                          Go to little places along the coast like Yeppoon and start buying waterfront houses - nothing flash - just basic 3 to 4 bedroom houses. In around five years those places are going to be worth big money.

                                          Down here where we live a 4 bedroom house on 1/4 acre block just across the road from the beach just went for 4 million.

                                          The owner didn't even have it on the market - a resort developer just knocked on the door and offered him the 4 mil with no haggling - a week later the cash was in his bank account.

                                          In 5 years time Yeppoon and further north is going to go the way of this place and developers are going to be walking around with suitcases full of money.

                                          A house like that would be going for around $A300,000 or even less atm - that's $US221,504.42 at the current exchange rate.
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                                          • strobi
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2002
                                            • 7383

                                            #71
                                            Long term (10 years) intrest rate is at 6.00% here and rising.. so I would go for that Regular intrest rate on a savings account is 3.5% ATM.

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                                            • quiet
                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 25115

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                              Jump on a plane and come to Queensland but bring your cheque book with you.

                                              Go to little places along the coast like Yeppoon and start buying waterfront houses - nothing flash - just basic 3 to 4 bedroom houses. In around five years those places are going to be worth big money.

                                              Down here where we live a 4 bedroom house on 1/4 acre block just across the road from the beach just went for 4 million.

                                              The owner didn't even have it on the market - a resort developer just knocked on the door and offered him the 4 mil with no haggling - a week later the cash was in his bank account.

                                              In 5 years time Yeppoon and further north is going to go the way of this place and developers are going to be walking around with suitcases full of money.

                                              A house like that would be going for around $A300,000 or even less atm - that's $US221,504.42 at the current exchange rate.
                                              i don't quite follow you, but if you want to spread the info ultraquiet at mac dot com...
                                              we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                              • quiet
                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                • Sep 2001
                                                • 25115

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by strobi
                                                Long term (10 years) intrest rate is at 6.00% here and rising.. so I would go for that Regular intrest rate on a savings account is 3.5% ATM.
                                                6% interest rate where? you mean a bank account?
                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                • strobi
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 7383

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by stocktrader23


                                                  It's just the market here. He had to turn down a $30,000 house recently because of no capital. It rents for $600 as is and it's not in the best shape. Everything around rents for a decent amount because of the air force base we have but the prices to purchase are way out of whack in comparison to most of the country. You could probably buy 20 $30,000 to $40,000 properties this month that rent for $550 to $650.

                                                  And the funniest thing of all around here, a $5000 used trailer in a trailer park rents for $400 to $600 as well.
                                                  Why don't you buy everything there is at your place? damn I would be all over it!

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                                                  • irishfury
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                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 2611

                                                    #75
                                                    I think knowing when to take the money you earn and run is as important as making it.

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                                                    • strobi
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 7383

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by quiet


                                                      6% interest rate where? you mean a bank account?

                                                      Yep in a 10 years savings account (blocked). Fully insured. Rates are between 5.5$ and 6$ in Belgium. (edit: if you keep the money in your account for 10+ years)

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                                                      • StuartD
                                                        Sofa King Band
                                                        • Jul 2002
                                                        • 29903

                                                        #77
                                                        retain?

                                                        retirement savings plans.
                                                        bonds.
                                                        mutual funds.
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                                                        What ever works for you.

                                                        One thing to consider is franchising yourself, or what you do. Earn a % off those you can trust to have doing what you do.... if 5 people can get to even 50% of the earning potential you can get, and you're making a % from each, you can do very well for yourself without ever lifting a finger.
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                                                        • AWW - Kevin
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                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 2353

                                                          #78
                                                          get my last 2 email quiet ?

                                                          Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                          Jump on a plane and come to Queensland but bring your cheque book with you. ..........
                                                          i agree Queensland is the place to be, i would still suggest
                                                          checking out the gold coast while you're there. It hasn't been Australia's fastes growing city the last 10years for nothing


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                                                          • The Other Steve
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                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 2106

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
                                                            get my last 2 email quiet ?



                                                            i agree Queensland is the place to be, i would still suggest
                                                            checking out the gold coast while you're there. It hasn't been Australia's fastes growing city the last 10years for nothing
                                                            Got to agree with you there - it's the only place I've ever seen the real estate agents open at 10.30 at night and still doing business.

                                                            Still - prices are already high there whereas further north it's still a good time to buy low and watch your investment appreciate.
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                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                              Too old to care
                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 52942

                                                              #80
                                                              Spread your investments, property, gold, shares, bonds, mutual funds. And make sure you live withing the profits.

                                                              As you said making the money is the easy part, resisting the urge to spend iit is hte hard part. I like to see the figure in our deposit account go up faster than inflation.



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                                                              • beemk
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                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 20829

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by bcooter
                                                                30k and 50k for houses??? where the fuck are you guys????

                                                                cheapest house i had ever shown was 68k, and the only way to make it livable was to tear it down and start over. and it was in the ghetto.
                                                                and you live in detroit? are you kidding? what part of detroit do you live in?
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                                                                • sacX
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 2998

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                  Jump on a plane and come to Queensland but bring your cheque book with you.

                                                                  Go to little places along the coast like Yeppoon and start buying waterfront houses - nothing flash - just basic 3 to 4 bedroom houses. In around five years those places are going to be worth big money.

                                                                  Down here where we live a 4 bedroom house on 1/4 acre block just across the road from the beach just went for 4 million.

                                                                  The owner didn't even have it on the market - a resort developer just knocked on the door and offered him the 4 mil with no haggling - a week later the cash was in his bank account.

                                                                  In 5 years time Yeppoon and further north is going to go the way of this place and developers are going to be walking around with suitcases full of money.

                                                                  A house like that would be going for around $A300,000 or even less atm - that's $US221,504.42 at the current exchange rate.
                                                                  I dunno where Yeppoon is, but anywhere around Port Douglas is damn nice!! Thinking seriously about getting a place there.
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                                                                  • sacX
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                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                    • 2998

                                                                    #83
                                                                    i'm investing in typein adult names. If you do your research you can find names that will return >50% in the first year.. and after you've made your initial investment back they're pretty much a cash cow. Of course risks are like those in adult, visa stops processing?, people stop typing in?!

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                                                                    • TheJimmy
                                                                      ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 10747

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by quiet
                                                                      all i'd ever ask is a garanteed 10% every single year (hell, i'd take 8%), with zero risk, for the rest of my life. i would be in nirvana. instead, it will always be a job.

                                                                      oversee this 'job'


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                                                                      • sake
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                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                        • 2648

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by ajpiii
                                                                        Real Estate... Lots of Rental properties. then hire a management company to take care of it. Just collect the profits. Cant loose money in Real Estate.
                                                                        I agree. Gotta invest some money in real estate, always a GOOD profit.

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                                                                        • bluff
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 6253

                                                                          #86
                                                                          quiet, it's not cool to play the 'playah'. It's stupid, actually.

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                                                                          • Basic_man
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                                                                            • Oct 2003
                                                                            • 27360

                                                                            #87
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                                                                            • x-vision
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                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 1013

                                                                              #88
                                                                              It takes money to make money. It's way easier to keep it than make it to begin with. Now that I have it, I have investements working for me that I don't even need to touch and they pay all my bills. My income just adds to my bank account.
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                                                                              • rjstar
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                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                • 353

                                                                                #89
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                                                                                • tbabe
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                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                  • 2494

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  have you considered loan sharking? Get some of that money on the street and mae it work for you.

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                                                                                  • Head
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                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                    • 8278

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                    once you're rich, you face a lifetime of retaining that wealth. how do you do it? discuss...
                                                                                    invest! Make your money work for you not you work for your money!

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                                                                                    • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 7444

                                                                                      #92
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                                                                                      • Huggles
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                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 12567

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Quiet, you ever goto Whistler in the Summer?
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                                                                                        • Herb Kornfield
                                                                                          Is on the 1
                                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                                          • 4996

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Here is the plan that works for me here.

                                                                                          Renting out rooms in houses. You can get a 5-6 bedroom house in Philly that are in decent areas for $20k - $40k. I've got one for 10k in a more industrial area that has 8 bedrooms.

                                                                                          1. $100 a week for a room.

                                                                                          2. $10 per week for a ethernet drop off the cable modem ( 8 port linksys, lol )

                                                                                          3. $20 a month for " colo space " aka - basement storage in a 6X10 wire cage area in the basement. Padlock included.

                                                                                          4. One time $10 fee to provide a pallet to keep your gear off the basement floor.

                                                                                          What is provided.

                                                                                          1. Cable TV / hot water / heat / laundry facilites / power / safe environment.

                                                                                          For the tennants we get ( halfway house vets, etc ) this is the most stable place they have to go to and are fantastic people. Sure they have made mistakes, but, also, I get people that pay on time and if they dont, just hit the bricks that night.

                                                                                          Here is the bottom line.

                                                                                          10k house - note is $117.00 a month
                                                                                          utiliites average --- $700.00 a month
                                                                                          misc costs brings it to about a thousand a month.

                                                                                          The tennats are paying

                                                                                          $3200.00 a month in rents ( 8 rooms at $100 per week )
                                                                                          $200 a month in cable modem ethernet drops
                                                                                          $400 a month in storage space fees.

                                                                                          $3800.00 a month / $2800.00 a month profit.

                                                                                          Rooming houses make the world go round...

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                                                                                          • Nismo
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                                                                                            • May 2002
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                                                                                            #95
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                                                                                            • Lykos
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                                                                                              • Apr 2003
                                                                                              • 31027

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I will let u know as soon as i made one

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                                                                                              • hoe_vender
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                                                                                                • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                #97
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                                                                                                • beemk
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                  • 20829

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Herb Kornfield
                                                                                                  Renting out rooms in houses. You can get a 5-6 bedroom house in Philly that are in decent areas for $20k - $40k. I've got one for 10k in a more industrial area that has 8 bedrooms.
                                                                                                  damn i thought houses in detroit were cheap.... isnt it hard to find people to rent the house and worry about them paying, etc... or do you hire that out?
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                                                                                                  • Paparazzi
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 3488

                                                                                                    #99
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                                                                                                    • phantom
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                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                      • 27

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      McDonalds franchise's

                                                                                                      or if you can find someone you can trust who has experience in real esate try developing instead of just renting out.
                                                                                                      buy a property in a new estate, subdivide, build houses, sell and move on

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