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Im Spanish and we are not agree with the Bush & Blair & Aznar politic. We are all AGAINST the war in Iraq.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
The United States made a move to the right after the WTC bombing, is that letting the terrorists win too? Or do the terrorists only "win" if a country doesn't do what Bush says?
The Spanish people are against terrorism, but they have never supported the war in Iraq.
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If they pull out their troops they will show that terrorists are winning their battle, and the next european terroristic attack will be a question of time. The next victims will be on Spain conscienceComment
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Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Does it ever make you laugh when you hear someone say they are a "libertarian" and they support Bush?
hey, most dictators say they're for liberty
okay, don't go with he's not a dictator, he's been elected democratically, bla bla bla, fact is he abolished too many civil rights to be healthy, hey, he wants to fuck up your constitution too, even a lot of republicans don't agree with that.
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Originally posted by sexsup
If they pull out their troops they will show that terrorists are winning their battle, and the next european terroristic attack will be a question of time. The next victims will be on Spain conscience
sick fuck: first of all they're are all on the minds of those sick extremists
secondly: if the US hadn't been so bad at covering up their mistakes, power struggles, CIA murders, ... abroad, the hate wouldn't be that big
third: the next in line, of who's guilty are people as Bush, Aznar & BlairComment
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OMG !!!!Originally posted by sexsup
The next victims will be on Spain conscience
And on who's conscience are the spanish victims????I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Originally posted by directfiesta
OMG !!!!
And on who's conscience are the spanish victims???? how much you wanna bet, he didn't think it through that far
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Do you really think if Spain left their troops in iraq there would not be more attacks across europe?Originally posted by sexsup
If they pull out their troops they will show that terrorists are winning their battle, and the next european terroristic attack will be a question of time. The next victims will be on Spain conscienceComment
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No, they'll show that they're not gonna play the game of the terrorists and they're gonna go ahead with what's planned. The plan is to remove the soldiers in June if there's no UN role in Iraq by then. They're sticking to there guns.Originally posted by sexsup
If they pull out their troops they will show that terrorists are winning their battle, and the next european terroristic attack will be a question of time. The next victims will be on Spain conscience
The victims in Spain are on Bush's conscience. It's no secret that Al-Qaeda is gonna try to hit France no matter what anyone does.Comment
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maybe the opposite is true, if those European countries would retrieve their armies, they would concentrate on the US again?Originally posted by slackologist
Do you really think if Spain left their troops in iraq there would not be more attacks across europe?
THIS WAS A "WHAT IF", I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE A GOOD THING, THAT THEY WOULD ATTACK THE US AGAIN
nobody should be killing innocent people, on the other hand, if they would become smarter and only kill or kidnap Bush, I wouldn't shed a tear for it, he would have it coming, same goes for Bin Laden en co. they are all part of the problem, both sides are guilty and ordinary people are caught in the middleComment
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they've already tried it a couple of times over the last 2 years: biggest attack would have been on the X-mas market in Strasbourg, but they caught them before all the attacks.Originally posted by Roger
The victims in Spain are on Bush's conscience. It's no secret that Al-Qaeda is gonna try to hit France no matter what anyone does.
France is probably the most difficult European country to hit, 'cause they have the best police coverage, a lot of terrorist flee France for London, 'cause the controls and infiltration is too big in France.
That's the problem with the American intelligence, they're first class technology-wise, but their people skills suck big time, hey, heard it out of the mouth of several ex-CIA operatives and directors in this documentary a couple of months agoComment
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It's probable but not a sure thing, they might focus more on american intrests in europe. I don't think they have the capability to kidnap Bush, kill him, yes.Originally posted by TheMaster
maybe the opposite is true, if those European countries would retrieve their armies, they would concentrate on the US again?
THIS WAS A "WHAT IF", I DON'T BELIEVE THIS TO BE A GOOD THING, THAT THEY WOULD ATTACK THE US AGAIN
nobody should be killing innocent people, on the other hand, if they would become smarter and only kill or kidnap Bush, I wouldn't shed a tear for it, he would have it coming, same goes for Bin Laden en co. they are all part of the problem, both sides are guilty and ordinary people are caught in the middleComment
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Perhaps, but eventually they'll launch a successfull attack. Destruction is easy.Originally posted by TheMaster
France is probably the most difficult European country to hit, 'cause they have the best police coverage, a lot of terrorist flee France for London, 'cause the controls and infiltration is too big in France.
That's the problem with the American intelligence, they're first class technology-wise, but their people skills suck big time, hey, heard it out of the mouth of several ex-CIA operatives and directors in this documentary a couple of months agoComment
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Though i'm sure there would be many that would find it ironically humorous to see Bush being led on a rope like a donkey through the mountains of afganistan/pakistan/iran/ etcOriginally posted by slackologist
It's probable but not a sure thing, they might focus more on american intrests in europe. I don't think they have the capability to kidnap Bush, kill him, yes.Comment
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Okay, enough talk about body bags and deaths, it's not relevant. Why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?Comment
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you know what the most funny thing would be: the French catching Bin Laden.Originally posted by slackologist
Though i'm sure there would be many that would find it ironically humorous to see Bush being led on a rope like a donkey through the mountains of afganistan/pakistan/iran/ etc
The French reported that Bin Laden eluded them in Pakistan recently, hope they get him and take him to France and put him in front of the UN War Crimes Tribunal, what a blow for Bush that would be.
Also the new Prime Minister of Spain said that Spain will become more European than ever before, no more of the blindly following the US government.
I think Portugal will fall soon also, after that, who will they have left in Europe except the UK: Poland, Italy, but do you really want to be associated with Berlusconi ?Comment
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Amen, this pull out will just cost more lives. It's sad what a pres will do for votes.
Originally posted by sexsup
If they pull out their troops they will show that terrorists are winning their battle, and the next european terroristic attack will be a question of time. The next victims will be on Spain conscienceComment
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With 9.000.000 muslims living in France, it doesn't seems too hard to setup a terrorist red in that country. Some cities in france look more like a muslim country than europe.Originally posted by TheMaster
France is probably the most difficult European country to hit, 'cause they have the best police coverage, a lot of terrorist flee France for London, 'cause the controls and infiltration is too big in France.
And as for Spain, The muslims where asking Spain to leave Irak in the card they've send. What are they doing ? They are leaving. I can only call that a terrorist victory. Maybe they would have joined the irakian resistance if they're was more deads ?
I'm leaving to the US next month, can't leave in a country where muslims terrorists are leading
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It doesn't matter if you support the Iraq war or not they will still kill you! You are fucked no matter what now that you showed them how big of pussies you guys are. Not only has the world seen Al-Qaeda can directly affect an election but they have also seen nobodys going to stop them.Originally posted by iarylif
Im Spanish and we are not agree with the Bush & Blair & Aznar politic. We are all AGAINST the war in Iraq.
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"Turkey refused to let the US attack Iraq from its territory, but they made the mistake of permitting the British to maintain consular and commercial ties, so a bunch of Muslims in Istanbul got slaughtered anyway."
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don't speak if you don't have a basic knowledgeOriginally posted by raster
Amen, this pull out will just cost more lives. It's sad what a pres will do for votes.
1. there isn't a president in Spain, they have a king and a new Prime Minister & government was chosen
2. he didn't do it for the votes, like 90% of the population he was against the war and long said before the attacks he would recall the Spanish troups
look if you don't believe in democracy, that's your problem, but Aznar fucked the people and lying to them at the last minute only made it worseComment
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Originally posted by ges
With 9.000.000 muslims living in France, it doesn't seems too hard to setup a terrorist red in that country. Some cities in france look more like a muslim country than europe.
maybe, but the French police and agencies are pretty well infiltrated
spanish population by 90% didn't it's soldiers there in the first place and wanted to pull them backAnd as for Spain, The muslims where asking Spain to leave Irak in the card they've send. What are they doing ? They are leaving. I can only call that a terrorist victory. Maybe they would have joined the irakian resistance if they're was more deads ?
no, you are going to a country where a christian extremist is abolishing civil rightsI'm leaving to the US next month, can't leave in a country where muslims terrorists are leading
these were such easy and stupid remarks and show you haven't been following the discussionComment
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fuck you, it shows courage by saying they are going to try another path instead of following that warlover Bush, the fight against terrorrism had nothing to do with IraqOriginally posted by BeHeadR
It doesn't matter if you support the Iraq war or not they will still kill you! You are fucked no matter what now that you showed them how big of pussies you guys are. Not only has the world seen Al-Qaeda can directly affect an election but they have also seen nobodys going to stop them.
"Turkey refused to let the US attack Iraq from its territory, but they made the mistake of permitting the British to maintain consular and commercial ties, so a bunch of Muslims in Istanbul got slaughtered anyway."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...5E7583,00.html
the Spanish no longer wants to be a slaver to that born again christian, hoera for them, that guys is the equivalent of Al Qaeda and by following such people, it will only get worse
by the way: yes all Spaniards will be killed, btw those soldiers can now be deploid in Spain or IN COUNTRIES WERE TERRORIST OPERATE !!!!! Iraq didn't have terrorist under Saddam, he killed the allComment
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APPEASEMENT DOES NOT WORKBarefootsiesComment
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You my friend need to wake up and smell the coffee and get a real sense of whats going on WE might live in the greatest country in the world but also the most corrupted also.Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Did you read the post I replied to?
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well, it might, if we would kill everyone like you, who does believe thatOriginally posted by montel
APPEASEMENT DOES NOT WORK
if you only have stupid oneliners as a comment: shut up and first read the previous postsComment
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Ya'll do realize that we are talking about a whopping 1500 Spanish troops don't you? I really don't think the loss of 1500 troops is going to do much in Iraq itself.
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WTF are you talking about? Since when did the war on Iraq have anything to do with 911? It was Osama that did it, not Iraq fool!Originally posted by arial
Never did I say they had to do what Bush says. Bush acted after WTC tragedy letting the terrorist know he wasn't one to be fucked with. Spain could have said no to Iraq but they didn't so that's not anyones fault but their own.
After they get bombed the suddenly decide to pull out of Iraq because the terrorist blame them for helping the US. IMHO that looks like the terrorist have beat them in their own backyard.
The invasion of Iraq was to liberate the Iraq people or to find weapons of mass destruction. The reason keeps changing....
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Are we still on this, appeasment does not work with the mindset of terrorists. I will be damned if I will bow down to these fuckers. They want all of us to be good little sheep and follow their lead. Fuck that, I am an American and proud of my independence, unlike some of the Socialist leaning countries of Europe. Lets make everyone happy and they will leave us alone. NO WAY. Ya need to take a stand and fight back. I guarantee if we are hit again in the US it will only strenghen our resolve. Don't believe CNN, since it is a propaganda machine. Talk to the average person in my country and we are supportive of what this administration is doing.Originally posted by TheMaster
well, it might, if we would kill everyone like you, who does believe that
if you only have stupid oneliners as a comment: shut up and first read the previous postsComment
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idiot, Spain has again become independent from the Bush government !!!! They will deal with terrorism their way and not be used to defend the oil interests of Bush's buddies.Originally posted by LittleMack
Are we still on this, appeasment does not work with the mindset of terrorists. I will be damned if I will bow down to these fuckers. They want all of us to be good little sheep and follow their lead. Fuck that, I am an American and proud of my independence, unlike some of the Socialist leaning countries of Europe. Lets make everyone happy and they will leave us alone. NO WAY. Ya need to take a stand and fight back. I guarantee if we are hit again in the US it will only strenghen our resolve. Don't believe CNN, since it is a propaganda machine. Talk to the average person in my country and we are supportive of what this administration is doing.
European countries have been fighting terrorism on their soil for a while, Bush's approach has only made it worse!!! He and that puta de hijo of an Aznar are the reason they hit Spain.
And again will you finally seperate Iraq from terrorism !!!!
Spain will keep fighting terrorism, not support Bush in the illegal invasion of Iraq
hey if the average person in your country thinks that way, then it would be even more of an intensive not to allies us to you.
BUT I don't think most intelligent Americans think this way, so I won't generalize on their behalfComment
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I guess idiot is your favorite word. Saddam has been a sponser of terrorist activities for many many many years. They have found terrorist training camps inside Iraq, now I know you are going to say they were hidden from Saddam but he had complete control on what went on in his country. So I guess your answer to everything Einstein is to just wait, then maybe react to an attack. How about this, go pick some flowers and hug a tree or something. You talk alot of peace but looked like you would of been happy if everyone that is not of your mindset was killed. From your post above.Comment
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I dont think I know of a single American that would lose sleep by us not having Belgium as an ally. Sorry.
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That's what happens when you ally yourself with Bush. He'll screw his allies, risk to destabilise there countries politicaly just so he can invade another country because as we all know, Iraq is the only important country in the world and he cares so much about Iraqis. So touching. Anyone who's willing to sell out his country and his people for Bush doesn't deserve to be reelected.Last edited by Roger; 03-15-2004, 09:06 PM.Comment
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TheMaster, I feel no ill will toward your beliefs. I think the reason this thread is so heated is everyones cutural differences. This is a great debate thread and in vain of GFY tradition. I actually do want everyone in this world to get along and have peace, but the sad thing is that I don't ever see that happening in my life. I shudder at the fact my kids are going to grow up in a world filled with hate and violence.
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If you want to know what to do to solve the problem of extreme terrorism, take a look to the recent history of Algeria, and see how they won their war against terrorists.
TheMaster I'm not a fan of wars but you cant close your eyes hoping problems will solve. It's like a cancer if you let it grow and you dont remove it as soon as possible, it destroys everything.
I see you are against Iraq war, but I want to remember that democracy is in Europe (example Italy) thanks to guns.Comment
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Sounds like you really believe all this.Originally posted by sexsup
If you want to know what to do to solve the problem of extreme terrorism, take a look to the recent history of Algeria, and see how they won their war against terrorists.
TheMaster I'm not a fan of wars but you cant close your eyes hoping problems will solve. It's like a cancer if you let it grow and you dont remove it as soon as possible, it destroys everything.
I see you are against Iraq war, but I want to remember that democracy is in Europe (example Italy) thanks to guns.Comment
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Don't give a fuck for that stupid politics....
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There is nothing to believe, I wrote only factsOriginally posted by Ironhorse
Sounds like you really believe all this.Comment
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Well, sure but democracy at gunpoint is not really democracy and Algeria has not solved terrorism how do you figure? The rest of the world is dealing with it daily but Algeria lives in a vacuum?? Hmm, this is not a fact just your perception maybe.Originally posted by sexsup
There is nothing to believe, I wrote only factsComment
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okay what's your source for the terrorist camps? Except Bush, Fox News or a conservative thinktank?Originally posted by LittleMack
I guess idiot is your favorite word. Saddam has been a sponser of terrorist activities for many many many years. They have found terrorist training camps inside Iraq, now I know you are going to say they were hidden from Saddam but he had complete control on what went on in his country. So I guess your answer to everything Einstein is to just wait, then maybe react to an attack. How about this, go pick some flowers and hug a tree or something. You talk alot of peace but looked like you would of been happy if everyone that is not of your mindset was killed. From your post above.
I mean, every commentator says there weren't any, why? Being a totalitarian dictator, they would only undermine his authority. Iraq had no terrorist problem.
And ig you would have taken the time to read my posts, you would have read I don't think we shouldn't do anything. I'm pro elimination of terrorist, I am however against the invasion of Iraq, that was only an economic decision, why didn't they nationaloze the oil? So all profits would go to the Iraqis? Come on answer that, now most money will go to american firms.
and honestly if every extremist with a wish to become violent without a just right would die tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear. But does that mean that I should kill every extremist, if they didn't do anything wrong: no
there is a different between what you feel and should do
if you can't comprehend that distinction, you'll basically have to learn to think on different levels, it always have to be easy for people like you, that why the US has fucked up so much, they teach too many people in a way that narrows their view
what I say: go fight terrorism, stop putting the US into debt, only to profit a fewComment
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don't care whether they would, point is that you should open your eyes and be criticalOriginally posted by LittleMack
I dont think I know of a single American that would lose sleep by us not having Belgium as an ally. Sorry.
the only thing I care about is that my government doesn't ally itself with this US administration, because they are acting in a irresponsible way, that's what the Spanish people has been saying for over a year, same goes for a lot of othersComment
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Originally posted by Roger
That's what happens when you ally yourself with Bush. He'll screw his allies, risk to destabilise there countries politicaly just so he can invade another country because as we all know, Iraq is the only important country in the world and he cares so much about Iraqis. So touching. Anyone who's willing to sell out his country and his people for Bush doesn't deserve to be reelected.
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again read previous posts, I'm not against actions, but do the right things, cut out that cancer, the problem is that at the moment they are causing the cancer to growOriginally posted by sexsup
TheMaster I'm not a fan of wars but you cant close your eyes hoping problems will solve. It's like a cancer if you let it grow and you dont remove it as soon as possible, it destroys everything.
I see you are against Iraq war, but I want to remember that democracy is in Europe (example Italy) thanks to guns.
btw we and also you took power, our own people did, that's the difference, now, the US has gained large profit stakes in Iraq, money that should go to the Iraqi peopleComment
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Yihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
just come back in time to see Collin Powell's interview on CNN NewsNight, where he acknowledged that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism, but was only about WMD's!!!!!!!!!!!
And we all know that the they found them
how stupid do yopu guys feel, who thought it was about terrorism.
All my point were proven by your republican representatives.
Be more critical in the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by TheMaster
Yihaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
just come back in time to see Collin Powell's interview on CNN NewsNight, where he acknowledged that Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism, but was only about WMD's!!!!!!!!!!!
And we all know that the they found them
how stupid do you guys feel, who thought it was about terrorism.
All my points were proven by your republican representatives.
Be more critical in the future !!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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