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  • TheMaster
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    • Nov 2003
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    #251
    Originally posted by theking


    The Middle East pe se is an enemy of the Western World. Middle Easterns have taken it upon themselves to attack USA assets multiple times abroad and have...at least twice...acutally attacked the CONUS. The UN has done zero to resolve the problem since the first attacks began. Diplomacy...as far as I am concerned ends when the first attacks began approximately two decades ago.

    Any country has the right to thwart perceived threats as well as respond to actual attacks...unfortunately most countries do not have the ability to do so...the USA does.

    So yes...we have every right...to attempt to neutralize/kill our enemies...and be damned to those that may not like it or interfere.
    what about your country killings thousands around the world? Putting dictators in place, killing hundred of thousands. I mean, South-America has every right to attack the US based on the century of meddling in their domestic affairs.

    BTW take out the bad guys, don't take out the whole country.

    so you percieve as all arabs being the enemy, it's the whole communist fear all over again, jeezes you guys really need a big bad guy to determine your own worth of oneself don't you. It's like trying to talk to an infant. Generalizations all the way, something we can say in 4 words or less

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      • Gunni
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        • Apr 2003
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        #252
        Originally posted by arial
        So Spain is going to let the terrorist win this way? Damn
        To my knowlege this has been what Zapatro has always said, even before the bombs in Madrid. A good election promise since 90% of the public was against the war!

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          • Roger
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            • Jul 2003
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            #253
            Originally posted by davidd
            Most of Western Europe, has slipped into the mentality of socialism mixed with hugs and kisses. You can not pussy foot with people who want to kill you.
            Obviously you don't know much about Europe.

            Eventually even the lillie pickers and peaceniks will realize this is a war. It will take massive blood in the steets and constant carnage, but eventually all of the western states will come around.
            I'm sure they will, because even though they're critical of the US they'll do the exact same shit once the terrorists hit them, especially France. People will be looking for revenge without thinking the strategy through.

            But remember that even though we will be standing side-by-side against those terrorists, I blame you and all the other majority who share your beliefs. It pisses me off to be in the same old shit again but hey that's the way it's gonna be. Of course I can always play the useless "I told you so" card but what good will it do? It can happen again and again and again and people will still react the same way to it no matter what I say.

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              • PenisFace
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                • Oct 2003
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                #254
                Originally posted by WarChild


                As a Canadian, I find it embarassing out goverment doesn't stand united with the USA. We're allowed to get along with very little useful millitary, and not need to worry because of our southern neighbors. If we had Iran to the south of us, we'd sure as shit not have free healthcare and a monster millitary too.

                If they want our feable help in their millitary actions sometimes, we should be right there supporting it. I swear it's the french influence, and it's spreading.

                We don't "Stand united" with the USA because the majority of our population would rather take a shotgun blast to the face than support the most ruthless country on the planet.
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                  • TheMaster
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                    • Nov 2003
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                    #255
                    Originally posted by theking


                    If you believe that you are an enemy of my country...and thus...a personal enemy...and are deserving of being terminated with prejudice.
                    I think you should get laid more, I tence a lot of frustration, take a self defence class or something, you seem to want to fight, so join your army and go widnes the bloodshed and misery yourself

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                      • davidd
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                        • Jul 2003
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                        #256
                        Originally posted by TheMaster


                        my god where did you people go to school: the UN was a reaction to WWII, the cold war started afterwards.

                        Look, I don't have a problem with killing those terrorist, but then kill them, get some intelligence teams on them, take 'm out with elite troops, confiscate their money, hire the mob for all I care. But invading a country like Iraq is something totally different, especially when the US supports dictators like the one from Equatorial Guinee, because they get their oil from there at a lower price.

                        BTW a don't hate the US, a plan to go life there one day, it's just that conservative part of the people I have a problem with. The basis of your country is something beautiful, but it gets so raped and keeps getting worse, do you really have to take a look from the outside to realize that the US is on a dangerous path, abolishing civil rights from here to yesterday.
                        + being told by a dumb man that we should stay inline or else be considered the enemy, jeezes, how old is he?3?

                        BTW2 I hate shanting and hippie stuff, they are lazy no goods, I have no problem with feelings of hate, anger, revenge, ... they are feelings, they are nor good nor bad, it just depends what you do with them.

                        Being human means you put reason between your feelings and your actions. So, don't take me for a flowerchild, anyone invading my country, I'll slid their throats. But as long as that is not the case, try to find another way than violence.

                        This is why I like most Europeans

                        You can see both sides of an issue, as can I.

                        I am in FULL, absolute agreement with you. This country started out as one the greatest places in existence and has since been whored to the lowest bidder. Both the Republicans and especially the Democrats should be eliminated from Washington. The Republicans are more to blame as they have completely gone against their core beliefs. The Democrats are merely perpetuating their stated purpose, big government (Mommie syndrome).

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                          • theking
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                            • Sep 2002
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                            #257
                            Originally posted by TheMaster


                            what about your country killings thousands around the world? Putting dictators in place, killing hundred of thousands. I mean, South-America has every right to attack the US based on the century of meddling in their domestic affairs.

                            BTW take out the bad guys, don't take out the whole country.

                            so you percieve as all arabs being the enemy, it's the whole communist fear all over again, jeezes you guys really need a big bad guy to determine your own worth of oneself don't you. It's like trying to talk to an infant. Generalizations all the way, something we can say in 4 words or less

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                            All governments try to do what they percieve to be is in the best interest of their respective countries...and this sometimes involves killing...been this way since the beginning of the human animal...and will remain that way into the foreseeable future.

                            No thoughtful person can honestly deny that the Muslim world...per se...is an enemy of the Western World.
                            When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                              • davidd
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                                #258
                                Originally posted by Roger


                                Obviously you don't know much about Europe.
                                Hmmm, I have a degree in world history.

                                All of my friends are either living in, or from Europe.

                                I currently live in a French controlled territory.

                                I am flying out on Tuesday night for another 2 week stay throughout Europe. So, no, I guess you are right, I know nothing about Europe.

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                                  • Roger
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                                    • Jul 2003
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                                    #259
                                    Originally posted by theking
                                    You saying it does not make it true...really...it doesn't.
                                    No it sure doesn't, I'm only noticing it.

                                    In my opinion when any independant country postures itself to the extent that it becomes perceived as a threat...or in fact actually attacks...then the right exists...whether you or anyone else approves or not.
                                    No problem there. So when did Iraq attack you actually? Heck in the state Iraq was in, I'd have been very surprised if they could've taken over a tiny country like Qatar

                                    You wanna set an example so that dictators don't get any ideas about screwing with the US? You go after the big fish first. You don't go after Saddam and a weak Iraq, and most of all it sends the wrong message to big dictators who see that the US is struggling in Iraq.

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                                      • theking
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                                        • Sep 2002
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                                        #260
                                        Originally posted by TheMaster


                                        I think you should get laid more, I tence a lot of frustration, take a self defence class or something, you seem to want to fight, so join your army and go widnes the bloodshed and misery yourself
                                        I spent 12 years in the Army and have engaged in four operations which includes Desert Shield and Desert Storm...thank you very much. I was taken down in the second day of the land war in Desert Storm which ended my military career.
                                        When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                          • Roger
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                                            #261
                                            Originally posted by davidd
                                            Hmmm, I have a degree in world history.

                                            All of my friends are either living in, or from Europe.

                                            I currently live in a French controlled territory.

                                            I am flying out on Tuesday night for another 2 week stay throughout Europe. So, no, I guess you are right, I know nothing about Europe.
                                            For someone living in there you should know better.
                                            French controlled territory?

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                                              • davidd
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                                                #262
                                                Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                my god where did you people go to school: the UN was a reaction to WWII, the cold war started afterwards.
                                                If you are going to take the piss out of me on technicalities, I am forced to do the same.

                                                The United Nations was born from the League of Nations. So my comment about the UN being a relic of the Cold War remains the case. Unless of course you deem the period from 1945 to 1991 not to be the timeframe of the cold war. I believe most would agree that at the conclusion of the Yalta conference, the cold war began.

                                                League of Nations became the UN in 1946, Cold War started in 1945.

                                                Where in the fuck did you people go to school?

                                                Touche'
                                                Last edited by davidd; 03-15-2004, 01:21 AM.

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                                                  • TheMaster
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                                                    #263
                                                    Originally posted by theking


                                                    All governments try to do what they percieve to be is in the best interest of their respective countries...and this sometimes involves killing...been this way since the beginning of the human animal...and will remain that way into the foreseeable future.

                                                    No thoughtful person can honestly deny that the Muslim world...per se...is an enemy of the Western World.
                                                    no, religion as the prime directive is an enemy of the western world, we also went through this, Europe was run by royalty and the church, we threw them out after 1000 years, the muslim world has to catch up, this is a fact.
                                                    If you would lay the bible next to the koran, not talking about the other islam books, you would see that they're are more alike then different, normally if you consider islam is based on christian-judeo religions, Mohammed was a travelling salesman, he got into contact with jews and christians and made his own version of it.

                                                    You know what will probably be the best way to convert these people, let them see our freedom, they will crave it, they're craving it in Iran already, the more they indulge in the opportunities and riches the western society has to offer, to smaller the terrorist feeding ground will become. Remember: culture is stronger than military influence to convert people's minds. You did it with Europe, "the american way of living", you can do it again, only in europe's eyes you been fucking up to much on other accounts during the last years.

                                                    I mean, mainstream arabs sing american songs, without ever have learned english, they're fans of the movies, love sports, hell they'll probably want to fuck the homecoming queen.

                                                    You won't succeed with pressure, especially when you're so bad in manipulation.

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                                                      • theking
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                                                        • Sep 2002
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                                                        #264
                                                        Originally posted by Roger


                                                        No problem there. So when did Iraq attack you actually? Heck in the state Iraq was in, I'd have been very surprised if they could've taken over a tiny country like Qatar

                                                        You wanna set an example so that dictators don't get any ideas about screwing with the US? You go after the big fish first. You don't go after Saddam and a weak Iraq, and most of all it sends the wrong message to big dictators who see that the US is struggling in Iraq.
                                                        Iraq postured itself as a perceived threat and provided the US with the excuse for taking it down. In my opinion we actually took it down because it was weak...provided an excuse...is geographically strategically located...and if our goal is accomplished it will be the beginning of changing the face of the Middle East...as well as putting the US in striking distance of other potential enemies in the Middle East.

                                                        What gives you the idea that the US is struggling in Iraq...the media?
                                                        When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

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                                                          • WarChild
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                                                            • Jan 2003
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                                                            #265
                                                            All of this posting about Belgium having the "right" to attack the US, and South Africa and blah blah blah .. Sure I guess they do have the RIGHT, but they sure aren't going to. Their goverments don't want a regime change at home.

                                                            The United states is the sole super power and has the huge responsibility to police the world now. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's the way it is. That's what is keeping pissant little countries like Belgium from being taken over by million man armies like North Korea ... Not any "tactical deffense" of your own.

                                                            Everbody has their panties in a knot about the Middle East ... I wouldn't worry about the world speaking Arabic anytime soon .. Y'all might consider learning Chinese though.
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                                                              • Roger
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                                                                #266
                                                                Originally posted by TheMaster
                                                                You know what will probably be the best way to convert these people, let them see our freedom, they will crave it, they're craving it in Iran already, the more they indulge in the opportunities and riches the western society has to offer, to smaller the terrorist feeding ground will become. Remember: culture is stronger than military influence to convert people's minds. You did it with Europe, "the american way of living", you can do it again, only in europe's eyes you been fucking up to much on other accounts during the last years.
                                                                As long as the terrorists can influence the US by an act of terrorism. It'll never happen. The terrorists know what they're doing.

                                                                Before 9/11 the ME was getting closer and closer to the US, Syria was attempting democratic reforms and there was plenty going on. But thanks to Al-Qaeda and Bush it all changed. Nowadays the ME is a shithole and tensions between arab-muslims and arab-christians are getting pretty high. Terrorism is back in force.

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                                                                  • davidd
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                                                                    #267
                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                                    culture is stronger than military influence to convert people's minds. You did it with Europe, "the american way of living", you can do it again, only in europe's eyes you been fucking up to much on other accounts during the last years

                                                                    Amen.

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                                                                      • TheMaster
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                                                                        #268
                                                                        Originally posted by davidd


                                                                        If you are going to take the piss out of me on technicalities, I am forced to do the same.

                                                                        The United Nations was born from the League of Nations. So my comment about the UN being a relic of the Cold War remains the case. Unless of course you deem the period from 1945 to 1991 not to be the timeframe of the cold war. I believe most would agree that at the conclusion of the Yalta conference, the cold war began.

                                                                        League of Nations became the UN in 1946, Cold War started in 1945.

                                                                        Where in the fuck did you people go to school?

                                                                        Touche'
                                                                        League of Nations was formed after WWI, if I remember correctly, it wasn't that strong and was mainly to avoid a new war between France and Germany (Prusia), since they had been fighting for centuries. There was decided that after WWII, there should be a stronger version of the League, so they renamed it and reviewed it's mission and purpose to a certain extend.

                                                                        + the cold war, the military build up and rivalery between the US and USSR, only went into speed as of the 50's. I don't think people in 1947 would have percieved it as a cold war yet.

                                                                        okay convince me otherwise

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                                                                          • TheMaster
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                                                                            #269
                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild

                                                                            The United states is the sole super power and has the huge responsibility to police the world now. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's the way it is. That's what is keeping pissant little countries like Belgium from being taken over by million man armies like North Korea ... Not any "tactical deffense" of your own.
                                                                            jeezes, yes, North Korea, they will certainly fire a nuke at you, give president Kim courtside tickets to the Knicks or whatever, a personal meeting with Michael Jordan, a 3 picture deal and he'll hand you the keys to his country.

                                                                            As you might not have known, besides his dictatorial tendencies, he is a huge NBA, Michael Jordan & movie freak. Sure, he likes being the leader, 50000 people shanting your name will do that to a man. But tempt him with the things he doesn't have! I know this is a total far out idea, but hell, the man I saw in those documentaries had unfulfilled dreams.

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                                                                              • Roger
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                                                                                #270
                                                                                Originally posted by theking
                                                                                Iraq postured itself as a perceived threat and provided the US with the excuse for taking it down. In my opinion we actually took it down because it was weak...provided an excuse...is geographically strategically located...and if our goal is accomplished it will be the beginning of changing the face of the Middle East...as well as putting the US in striking distance of other potential enemies in the Middle East.
                                                                                What goal is that? Oh, you mean the sugar-coated one that Bush made up?

                                                                                I'm sorry, but since 9/11 we've become more like them than them like us. It surely ain't the western culture that's taking over. But that doesn't matter much to you.

                                                                                If you lived in there, you'd realize how shitty it has become, everything that the moderates have worked so hard for have gone to waste.

                                                                                What gives you the idea that the US is struggling in Iraq...the media?
                                                                                No, I'm sure Iraq is doing okay being taken over by another country and all. I'm sure soldiers dying every day doesn't mean that the US is struggling, afterall they're just soldiers, why would they matter? That's why my relatives had to run away. It's pretty darn good, especially for Iraqi Christians. Gotta love the death threats.

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                                                                                  • Roger
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                                                                                    #271
                                                                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                    The United states is the sole super power and has the huge responsibility to police the world now. Doesn't matter if you like it or not, it's the way it is. That's what is keeping pissant little countries like Belgium from being taken over by million man armies like North Korea ... Not any "tactical deffense" of your own.

                                                                                    Everbody has their panties in a knot about the Middle East ... I wouldn't worry about the world speaking Arabic anytime soon .. Y'all might consider learning Chinese though.
                                                                                    Making fun of little weak countries now?
                                                                                    People like you make me glad that Canada isn't a super power. With such arrogance, who knows how bad we could've gone?

                                                                                    Yeah of course NK would've invaded Belgium, it's not as if Belgium allies have nukes or anything like that

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                                                                                      • davidd
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                                                                                        #272
                                                                                        Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                        No, I'm sure Iraq is doing okay being taken over by another country and all. I'm sure soldiers dying every day doesn't mean that the US is struggling, afterall they're just soldiers, why would they matter? That's why my relatives had to run away. It's pretty darn good, especially for Iraqi Christians. Gotta love the death threats.
                                                                                        Give us a little background on yourself, so we can have a clearer picture of where you are coming from.

                                                                                        I have done so in my previous posts, but at this point it is unclear where exactly your roots and location are.

                                                                                        -dd

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                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                            #273
                                                                                            Originally posted by davidd
                                                                                            Amen.
                                                                                            Only problem is that Bush's way of life is more in line with that of religious extremists. So noone wants a Bush imposed culture.

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                                                                                              • TheMaster
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                                                                                                #274
                                                                                                Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                                Making fun of little weak countries now?
                                                                                                People like you make me glad that Canada isn't a super power. With such arrogance, who knows how bad we could've gone?

                                                                                                Yeah of course NK would've invaded Belgium, it's not as if Belgium allies have nukes or anything like that

                                                                                                hey hey, it's a public secret that in fact we do have nukes, they're on the US airforce base at Kleine Brogel, I think we can take the local stationed soldiers there

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                                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                    #275
                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                                                                    League of Nations was formed after WWI, if I remember correctly, it wasn't that strong and was mainly to avoid a new war between France and Germany (Prusia), since they had been fighting for centuries.
                                                                                                    "The League was to be a guarantee against war. The terms of the treaties might leave a lot to be desired by some countries : But the leage would see to it that all the powers, great and small, would no longer set about achieving desired changes, or any others, by war. The League was to be a world organisation."

                                                                                                    While you're right that without America it wasn't very strong, it really didn't have anything to do with France and Germany specfically.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster

                                                                                                    There was decided that after WWII, there should be a stronger version of the League, so they renamed it and reviewed it's mission and purpose to a certain extend.
                                                                                                    "To begin with, only those countries that took part in the struggle against the Axis Powers would be allowed to join ; and they would be invted to a meeting in San Fransicso in April 1945."

                                                                                                    In short no it wasn't just renamed and reviewed it's mission and purpose to a certain extend. What a Vanilla statement in the first place.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster

                                                                                                    + the cold war, the military build up and rivalery between the US and USSR, only went into speed as of the 50's. I don't think people in 1947 would have percieved it as a cold war yet.
                                                                                                    "The Cold War Confrontation" was considered to be from 1945-1955. By 1947 the Iron Curtain had already fallen and the cold war had most certainly strarted.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster

                                                                                                    okay convince me otherwise
                                                                                                    It's fact. I've taken all the quotes of I've used, including all dates from "Twentieth Century History - The World Since 1900" Second Edition by Josh Brooman.
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                                                                                                      • Anna_O
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                                                                                                        #276
                                                                                                        Damn, this thread grew over night. Have to get right back into it when I get home from work.


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                                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                                            #277
                                                                                                            Originally posted by davidd
                                                                                                            Give us a little background on yourself, so we can have a clearer picture of where you are coming from.

                                                                                                            I have done so in my previous posts, but at this point it is unclear where exactly your roots and location are.
                                                                                                            I'm Christian Lebanese. I had a blind hate towards muslims for most of my life and I still do hate them a little. Obviously the problems we faced are now coming on a world-wide scale and I see the whole thing happening all over again. People sure react the same to terrorism. It never seems to end. Things should be done differently already, enough with the same old stuff. I want to get rid of terror as much as you do but I don't think that we're gonna do much with the way we're going at it.

                                                                                                            I somehow don't think that the western values are just a nice thing to have at that we should throw those values out the window as soon as we're face with adversity. I think that those values are the best weapon. Muslims will understand the need to defeat terror as long as the thing is conducted in a fair and just manner, you know kinda the same way criminals in the west are treated. Enough with the double standards already.

                                                                                                            Look at how China is improving.
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                                                                                                              • freeones
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                                                                                                                My thoughts: it absolutely wrong to pull those Spanish troops back!! The first act of a new Spanish goverment is a wrong one, how sad is that.....

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                                                                                                                  • Roger
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                                                                                                                    #279
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by freeones
                                                                                                                    My thoughts: it absolutely wrong to pull those Spanish troops back!! The first act of a new Spanish goverment is a wrong one, how sad is that.....
                                                                                                                    Well then some presidents should've thought better than to go against the will of there population. Why should the new party backdown on a promise they made just because there was a terrorist attack? Why give Al-Qaeda so much importance?

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                                                                                                                      • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                        #280
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                        It's fact. I've taken all the quotes of I've used, including all dates from "Twentieth Century History - The World Since 1900" Second Edition by Josh Brooman.

                                                                                                                        While you're right that without America it wasn't very strong, it really didn't have anything to do with France and Germany specfically

                                                                                                                        I should try to find my books again, but I'm pretty sure it did have a lot to do with France and Germany

                                                                                                                        and The Cold War Confrontation stopped in 1955? Wow, did anyone tell that to the leaders of that era???????

                                                                                                                        buy another school book
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                                                                                                                          • WarChild
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                                                                                                                            #281
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                                                            Well then some presidents should've thought better than to go against the will of there population. Why should the new party backdown on a promise they made just because there was a terrorist attack? Why give Al-Qaeda so much importance?
                                                                                                                            It's a shock that this party won .. In fact, nobody expected it to be so ... It's widely thought that this new party was voted in as a DIRECT, FEARFUL RESPONSE, of the attack its self.
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                                                                                                                              • Roger
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                                                                                                                                #282
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                                It's a shock that this party won .. In fact, nobody expected it to be so ... It's widely thought that this new party was voted in as a DIRECT, FEARFUL RESPONSE, of the attack its self.
                                                                                                                                No it's not, they where pretty close in the polls.

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                                                                                                                                  • ControlThy
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                                                                                                                                    I just love how some fat lazy webmasters call other countries pussies, yet they have done nothing for their own fucking country.

                                                                                                                                    It is always easy to send other people into battle.
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                                                                                                                                      • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                        #284
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by freeones
                                                                                                                                        My thoughts: it absolutely wrong to pull those Spanish troops back!! The first act of a new Spanish goverment is a wrong one, how sad is that.....
                                                                                                                                        euh, the Dutch are just pussies for listening to Bush, let's be honest, the last thing Holland should be doing right now, is put money into the military, you're in enough trouble already.

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                                                                                                                                          • ControlThy
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                                                                                                                                            • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                            And for god sake, WarChild, go back to school and educate yourself.
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                                                                                                                                              • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                #286
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheMaster



                                                                                                                                                I should try to find my books again, but I'm pretty sure it did have a lot to do with France and Germany

                                                                                                                                                and The Cold War Confrontation stopped in 1955? Wow, did anyone tell that to the leaders of that ear???????

                                                                                                                                                buy another school book
                                                                                                                                                I just skimmed an entire chaper on the League of Nations .. Not once is France or Germany directly mentioned.

                                                                                                                                                I'm not suggestion the Entire Cold War stopped in 1955 ... But when Stalin died in 1953 the sovient union began the "thaw" inside to some extent .. The real head on confrontation had turned to "peaceful competition". In any case, we weren't talking about the duration of the cold war .. I was simply pointing out that by 1947 it was already on .. It did in fact start just as the UN was formed.

                                                                                                                                                Why would I buy another text book? I haven't been to school in some time now .. And I certainly wouldn't want to study History. Thanks though.
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by WarChild; 03-15-2004, 02:24 AM.
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                                                                                                                                                  • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                    #287
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                                                    It's a shock that this party won .. In fact, nobody expected it to be so ... It's widely thought that this new party was voted in as a DIRECT, FEARFUL RESPONSE, of the attack its self.
                                                                                                                                                    euh "new party" ??? they exist since 1879

                                                                                                                                                    wow, that was some bad intel on your part

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                                                                                                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                        • 17263
                                                                                                                                                        #288
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                                                                                        No it's not, they where pretty close in the polls.
                                                                                                                                                        They were pretty close ...

                                                                                                                                                        "Political observers are predicting a victory for the ruling conservative Popular Party over the main opposition Socialist Party.

                                                                                                                                                        A recent poll gave the Popular Party a 4 percent lead over the Socialists."

                                                                                                                                                        Source: http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe...ion/index.html

                                                                                                                                                        Now I know CNN is a big propganda organization, it's all a conspiracy and yadda yadda yadda, but since I can't get to Spain it'll have to do for me.
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                                                                                                                                                          • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                            Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 17263
                                                                                                                                                            #289
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                                                                                                                            euh "new party" ??? they exist since 1879

                                                                                                                                                            wow, that was some bad intel on your part
                                                                                                                                                            I meant newly elected party. Thanks though.
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                                                                                                                                                              • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                #290
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                                                                I just skimmed an entire chaper on the League of Nations .. Not once is France or Germany directly mentioned.

                                                                                                                                                                I'm not suggestion the Entire Cold War stopped in 1955 ... But when Stalin died in 1953 the sovient union began the "thaw" inside to some extent .. The real head on confrontation had turned to "peaceful competition". In any case, we weren't talking about the duration of the cold war .. I was simply pointing out that by 1947 it was already on .. It did in fact start just as the UN was formed.

                                                                                                                                                                Why would I buy another text book? I haven't been to school in some time now .. And I certainly wouldn't want to study History. Thanks though.
                                                                                                                                                                okay, but the first point was that I was founded because of the cold war, which I denied

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                                                                                                                                                                  • hova
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                    #291
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                                                                                                                                    euh, the Dutch are just pussies for listening to Bush, let's be honest, the last thing Holland should be doing right now, is put money into the military, you're in enough trouble already.
                                                                                                                                                                    So you think it is smart that the Spain pulls all troops out Iraq?? I could agree that it was wrong to send the troops there, but if they pull them back now you give those fucks exactly what they want.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                                                                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                        • 17263
                                                                                                                                                                        #292
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by ControlThy
                                                                                                                                                                        And for god sake, WarChild, go back to school and educate yourself.
                                                                                                                                                                        What the hell for? Didn't like it the first time, don't want to try it again.
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                                                                                                                                                                          • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                            #293
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                                                                            I meant newly elected party. Thanks though.
                                                                                                                                                                            ah okay

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                                                                                                                                                                              • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                #294
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by TheMaster


                                                                                                                                                                                euh "new party" ??? they exist since 1879

                                                                                                                                                                                wow, that was some bad intel on your part
                                                                                                                                                                                + don't forget the failed attempt of lying to the people, keeping it focused ETA, because that would help that asshole Aznar in the poles.

                                                                                                                                                                                Hope Bush will fall the same way, I mean, he gets this stupid smurk/grin on his face when he's lying

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #295
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by hova


                                                                                                                                                                                    So you think it is smart that the Spain pulls all troops out Iraq?? I could agree that it was wrong to send the troops there, but if they pull them back now you give those fucks exactly what they want.
                                                                                                                                                                                    in the bigger scheme of things: yes, Bush has to go, the world can't stomach another 4 years, especially when he hasn't got a re-election to loose anymore, can you imagine what that assfinkster will do then. He had a fake coalition and that has to be shown to the american people, so they can see how much this man tried to fool them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • radical
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #296
                                                                                                                                                                                        Iraq needs america, without them the country would be in chaos, they need all the help they can get basically




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                                                                                                                                                                                          • TheMaster
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                                                                                                                                                                                            okay gonna sleep a couple of hours, will be replaying afterwards

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #298
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by davidd




                                                                                                                                                                                                Liberty, my friend, something most in the US have forgotten about.
                                                                                                                                                                                                Does it ever make you laugh when you hear someone say they are a "libertarian" and they support Bush?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Roger
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #299
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                                                                                    They were pretty close ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                    "Political observers are predicting a victory for the ruling conservative Popular Party over the main opposition Socialist Party.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    A recent poll gave the Popular Party a 4 percent lead over the Socialists."
                                                                                                                                                                                                    4 percent, yep it's a huge difference. I mean it's unheard of, polls are so perfec that there's no chance in hell they can be wrong by 4 percent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Why do you think that CNN is a propaganda organisation?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • LittleMack
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #300
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by hova


                                                                                                                                                                                                        So you think it is smart that the Spain pulls all troops out Iraq?? I could agree that it was wrong to send the troops there, but if they pull them back now you give those fucks exactly what they want.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Exactly, if they pull out abruptly then it will send the wrong signal to the terrorists. What a mess the world has become.
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