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  • WarChild
    Let slip the dogs of war.
    • Jan 2003
    • 17263
    #51
    Simple solution



    1) Build concrete wall on red line
    2) Round up every gangbanger and convict you can. Arm them. Parachute inside new wall.
    3) Wait a few years and harvest the oil.
    4) Tell France to fuck off, no oil for them.
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      • Roger
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3181
        #52
        Originally posted by crescentx
        The long-term outcome of this could be to solidify and re-invigorate the European Union in ways never before possible. As elections come and go, the parties that supported the war - and are pro-US - will find themselves running out of friends. Perhaps even the hard-liners who envision the EU as a counterbalance to the US on the world stage get real power.
        I, for one, don't want to see Europe as a super power. One super power is already more than enough. At least with one superpower you can be sure that you'll have some decent leaders now and then. With two superpowers, the chances of that happening is a whole lot less.

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          • StuartD
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            • Jul 2002
            • 29903
            #53
            Originally posted by BradM
            Thank god.
            Hopefully more countries will join in and the US can deal with the shit they started in Iraq alone. It's their war.
            You mean invasion. It's not a war.

            Oh, and Alex From San Diego, your reply is a pretty standard response from someone who has no good response to make
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              • BradM
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                • Dec 2003
                • 3397
                #54
                Originally posted by Roger


                I, for one, don't want to see Europe as a super power. One super power is already more than enough. At least with one superpower you can be sure that you'll have some decent leaders now and then. With two superpowers, the chances of that happening is a whole lot less.
                The US is already losing favor.
                Not long before the United Nations kicks them the fuck out for being asshole cowboys. They don't listen to the rest of the world.

                Remember how 90% of the UN voted AGAINST going into Iraq? Well fuck that Bush said we're doing it anyways.

                The Euro Union will take over, and I for one am glad. Europeans have been through thousands of years of war and know how to run things. The states just knows how to kill civillians.

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                  • Roger
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                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3181
                    #55
                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                    Anna_O, terrorists don't have reasoning, they don't perceive or proceed to dialog. Spanish citizens will keep facing ETA for centuries. From the moment you open/create the gate that terrorists come out, you are lost. It's in their best interest to minimize the possibility dealing with al queda as well from now on.
                    ETA has been surviving for 35 years against a determind and inflexible Spain.

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                      • Marina
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                        • May 2003
                        • 437
                        #56
                        I think we should NOT be helping or butting in with other countries........


                        If they are starving - let them.
                        They need money - fuck em.
                        Most of thier population dying from disease - oh well.
                        They get taken over by terrorists - too bad.


                        I think, and always have, that we should worry more about ourselves then what everyone else is doing or thinking!

                        We have enough rpoblems right here to worry about anybody else.

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                          • directfiesta
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                            • Oct 2002
                            • 30174
                            #57
                            Originally posted by WarChild
                            Simple solution



                            1) Build concrete wall on red line
                            2) Round up every gangbanger and convict you can. Arm them. Parachute inside new wall.
                            3) Wait a few years and harvest the oil.
                            4) Tell France to fuck off, no oil for them.
                            Forgot to include Israel....
                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                              • BradM
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                                • Dec 2003
                                • 3397
                                #58
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                Simple solution



                                1) Build concrete wall on red line
                                2) Round up every gangbanger and convict you can. Arm them. Parachute inside new wall.
                                3) Wait a few years and harvest the oil.
                                4) Tell France to fuck off, no oil for them.

                                Britain Tried that with Australia. Now look at them.

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                                  • WarChild
                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                    • Jan 2003
                                    • 17263
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by BradM

                                    The Euro Union will take over, and I for one am glad. Europeans have been through thousands of years of war and know how to run things.
                                    Umm don't they mostly war with themselves, and when it gets out of control they call for North America to come settle things down again?
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                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 9484
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by crescentx


                                        Maybe this does send a signal to A-Q that they can change the face of politics. Though that conclusion is highly suspect given the anti-war sentiment already present in Spain, and the badly-attempted cover job trying to blame ETA.

                                        I'd say it's more of a harbinger. Most Europeans - having a real historical basis for understanding what war on their soil means - never supported the Iraq war. Those leaders that chose to follow the US lead did so against heavy popular opposition, and the war isn't going according to plan. Not to mention the gravy is all going to no-bid contracts for US companies.

                                        The long-term outcome of this could be to solidify and re-invigorate the European Union in ways never before possible. As elections come and go, the parties that supported the war - and are pro-US - will find themselves running out of friends. Perhaps even the hard-liners who envision the EU as a counterbalance to the US on the world stage get real power.

                                        On this track, popular opinion in the EU can be tilted. From the Europeans I've known - and there are many - I don't think the natural reaction is a knee-jerk "let's kick their ass" response you'd see here in the States (reference quotes above). Given the popular lack of support over many of the US-led initiatives Europe has been involved in, I'd say it pushes things more into a US-EU competition.

                                        That, with the economic indicators, weakness of the dollar, tends to me that W's legacy may be the weakening of the US as a true world power...sure we have a big army that can blow people up, but any essence of diplomacy or statesmanship that previous admins have had is long gone here, and in civilized circles, that's what counts. Let's hope he doesn't invade Spain next.

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                                          • benc
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                                            • Jan 2002
                                            • 788
                                            #61
                                            Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                            This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                            If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
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                                              • WarChild
                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                • Jan 2003
                                                • 17263
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                Forgot to include Israel....
                                                Don't need all of Israel, just mostly the west bank.
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                                                  • BradM
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                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 3397
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by WarChild


                                                    Umm don't they mostly war with themselves, and when it gets out of control they call for North America to come settle things down again?
                                                    What the fuck are you talking about.
                                                    Proof? No, I didn't think so.

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                                                      • Mr.Fiction
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                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                        • 9484
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by benc
                                                        Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                                        This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                                        If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
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                                                          • piker
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                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 597
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


                                                            Did you read the post I replied to?

                                                            It was a right winger like you who suggested that a politician might have had a hand in a massive terrorist attack on his own country for political gain.
                                                            I didn't suggest anything. Other then the obvious someone used this attack for political gain. You can't say the same about 911, 911 was done for spite. Not to affect elections.
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                                                              • Anna_O
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                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 5773
                                                                #66
                                                                To my knowledge ETA usually target politicians and usually give out warnings before they blow their bombs. This may change now...

                                                                Soul_Rebel, it might be better for a country to give after to terrorists demands sometimes, but what signal does it send to the rest of the world?


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                                                                  • BradM
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                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                    • 3397
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by benc
                                                                    Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                                                    This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                                                    If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
                                                                    Some people talk, instead of just blowing shit up and asking questions later.

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                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                        • 17263
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by BradM


                                                                        What the fuck are you talking about.
                                                                        Proof? No, I didn't think so.
                                                                        Umm well .. Didn't a little European country named Germany get a little out of hand .. Requiring American intervention?

                                                                        Oh and then when they did it again, they took over all of Europe except Britain ... Requiring, once again, some good old US help.

                                                                        I might be wrong about that, but I could have sword that's what happened?
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                                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                            • 30174
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by benc
                                                                            Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me.
                                                                            Funny.... Where do you situatye the USA.

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                                                                            We don't see that in any other country... But I suppose that the USA is center... not ectreme right...

                                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                              • crescentx
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                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 317
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                I, for one, don't want to see Europe as a super power. One super power is already more than enough. At least with one superpower you can be sure that you'll have some decent leaders now and then. With two superpowers, the chances of that happening is a whole lot less.
                                                                                I don't phrase this as "superpower" in the Cold-War-era sense (which lots of DoD people seem stuck in). More like a bloc - which the EU is - of diverse nations, soon to be much more diverse in May. The EU is tackling as a body issues more complex by far than was tackled with the thirteen colonies, and I would say from visiting and news, having some successes in the context of very heated debate.

                                                                                The EU argues about common defense forces - which most seem against as far as I know - and other issues. Economic issues, and immigration issues, seem to be at the forefront. It's not a unified voice as much as a counterbalance, even at this early stage, a powerful one.

                                                                                470 million people in the current EU, I think. While the EU is drafting a constitution, there's a big emphasis on national autonomy. It's unlikely there will be a United States-style "superpower" in place, but very likely - and already signs are showing - that together a lot of nations can pool their influences and resources and have a big impact in international politics. The African States (can't recall the name) are in the extreme early stages of this as well.

                                                                                In the end, I don't see this as a bad thing. Much like small businesses can pool their resources to get a better deal, this way countries with common interests can play a more representative role on the world stage. If these other unions mature effectively, then, ironically enough, you might see an "Old Europe" argument played successfully against the US, since the concept of the EU is a much more flexible, intelligent, fluid, and non-aggressive model of representation than brute force and intimidation.

                                                                                If foreign policy were in the end decided on intelligence, negotiation, and cooperation, and less on religious divides, military might, and nuclear explosives, I think the world would be a much happier place. Living in fear just sucks.

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                                                                                  • benc
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                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 788
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    One other comment, in regards how its just a policy change. I read that before the bombing, the other party was favored to win.

                                                                                    So Al Qada, did force change on weakminded people.
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                                                                                      • piker
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                                                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                                                        • 597
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by benc
                                                                                        Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                                                                        This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                                                                        If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
                                                                                        Not very good with history huh? Europe arguable has had the most bloodshed on its content. Maybe they learned from it though and choose other paths. But, sometimes blood needs to be shed in order stand up for whats right.. and put down whats wrong which I think is what you really think right?
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                                                                                          • BradM
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                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                            • 3397
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                            Umm well .. Didn't a little European country named Germany get a little out of hand .. Requiring American intervention?

                                                                                            Oh and then when they did it again, they took over all of Europe except Britain ... Requiring, once again, some good old US help.

                                                                                            I might be wrong about that, but I could have sword that's what happened?
                                                                                            60 FUCKING years ago!

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                                                                                              • WarChild
                                                                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                • 17263
                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by benc
                                                                                                Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                                                                                This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                                                                                If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
                                                                                                As a Canadian, I find it embarassing out goverment doesn't stand united with the USA. We're allowed to get along with very little useful millitary, and not need to worry because of our southern neighbors. If we had Iran to the south of us, we'd sure as shit not have free healthcare and a monster millitary too.

                                                                                                If they want our feable help in their millitary actions sometimes, we should be right there supporting it. I swear it's the french influence, and it's spreading.
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                                                                                                  • StuartD
                                                                                                    Sofa King Band
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 29903
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by benc
                                                                                                    Europe and Canada going so far to the left scares me. The vision they have just isnt realistic. Theres too much evil in the world that laugh at such Hollywood westernized values.

                                                                                                    This is just one example in that Europe and other modern socialistic societies, just don't have the stomache for bloodshed.

                                                                                                    If you guys want to be a world power, then you need to flex world power muscle. Until your willing to do that, stfu and get out of the USA's way.
                                                                                                    going so far to the left?

                                                                                                    how about not sticking our noses into other people's business? Ever heard of that?

                                                                                                    Evil in the world? How much evil is there in the US? They just invaded some other country!

                                                                                                    Evil is as evil does.

                                                                                                    It's not your place to punish or judge, nor is it mine.

                                                                                                    Did Saddam deserve to be taken out of power, sure. Did the entire nation deserve to be bombed from the sky and completely taken over? Probably not.

                                                                                                    Did the world deserve to be completely lied to about weapons and papers and intentions? No.

                                                                                                    Am I going so far to the left? no, I'm using common sense.

                                                                                                    The intentions were bogus. The decision was bogus. The belief that Bush can do no wrong is bogus. The war mongering is bogus and the tampering in other people's affairs is bogus.

                                                                                                    Don't lump everyone into a wing group because we happen to think that maybe thousands of people didn't really need to die for some hidden agenda that one guy has.
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                                                                                                      • Rictor
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                                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                                        • 12208
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                                                        Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, has promised to immediately withdraw Spain's 1,300 troops from Iraq, orient Spain's foreign policy away from the United States and restore good relations with anti-war European allies, France and Germany.

                                                                                                        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Mar14.html

                                                                                                        Another Bush foreign policy success?
                                                                                                        1,300 troops, eh? Is that the whole Spanish army?

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                                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                            • 3181
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                                            The US is already losing favor.
                                                                                                            Not long before the United Nations kicks them the fuck out for being asshole cowboys. They don't listen to the rest of the world.

                                                                                                            Remember how 90% of the UN voted AGAINST going into Iraq? Well fuck that Bush said we're doing it anyways.

                                                                                                            The Euro Union will take over, and I for one am glad. Europeans have been through thousands of years of war and know how to run things. The states just knows how to kill civillians.
                                                                                                            We're Canadians and have a lot more in common with the US than with Europe. Power corrupts and for sure the US is gonna get very bad and power-hungry leaders now and then but it's a young superpower and the people are learning from there mistakes. I trust that the US will mature well and quickly. Half the population is already questioning Bush's policies and compared to other countries I've seen fall victim to terrorism, that's pretty darn good.

                                                                                                            Don't forget that Italy is ruled by a rutheless quasi-dictator who controls the media.

                                                                                                            I remember how Bush said he didn't care what the members of the UN think even before going to the UN with his plan to invade Iraq. It's pathetic, but he ain't gonna be president forever. The guy is an idiot who lead an easy life without taking the time to understand the values of his country and what they stand for.

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                                                                                                              • WarChild
                                                                                                                Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                • 17263
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by BradM


                                                                                                                60 FUCKING years ago!
                                                                                                                60 years is nothing. History tends to repeat its self.
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                                                                                                                  • WarChild
                                                                                                                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                    • 17263
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Rictor


                                                                                                                    1,300 troops, eh? Is that the whole Spanish army?
                                                                                                                    Most of the reserve too.
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                                                                                                                      • BradM
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                                                                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                        • 3397
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                        60 years is nothing. History tends to repeat its self.
                                                                                                                        You're avoiding the origional question, because obviously you've NO clue what you're going on about (suprising coming from a republican?)

                                                                                                                        We're talking about the last 25 years and how out of control the states is with war.
                                                                                                                        Vietnam
                                                                                                                        Gulf 1
                                                                                                                        Gulf 2
                                                                                                                        Afghanistan

                                                                                                                        The US doesn't listen to even what it's OWN people say.

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                                                                                                                          • coolandthegang
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                                                                                                                              • LittleMack
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                                                                                                                                WTF, are we all forgetting here that right after 9/11, the majority of Americans and the world supported in getting rid of the terrorist regimes??? Iraq, Iran, North Korea. I do not personally know that Saddam had ties with Bin Laden but he was a evil dicator that murdered 100,000's of his own people over the years. He was a human rights violator to the extreme. I do not like war but I am glad he is gone. Now this new Spanish President is going to show that they are going to bury their heads in the sand and bow down to the terrorists. That is a signal that can start a string of violence over there that will not cease.

                                                                                                                                Now, I support Kerry and I know he is not going to just pull us out the moment that he is elected. That would send the wrong signal. I do not agree with why we went to Iraq but understand why the decsion was made. I hope the terrorists dont take this Spanish thing to mean it will work like that over here in the US. The great thing about our country is that when we are faced with hard times we generally stick together. Even though our political parties are so oppostite.

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                                                                                                                                  • Anna_O
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                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by LittleMack
                                                                                                                                    WTF, are we all forgetting here that right after 9/11, the majority of Americans and the world supported in getting rid of the terrorist regimes??? Iraq, Iran, North Korea. I do not personally know that Saddam had ties with Bin Laden but he was a evil dicator that murdered 100,000's of his own people over the years. He was a human rights violator to the extreme. I do not like war but I am glad he is gone. Now this new Spanish President is going to show that they are going to bury their heads in the sand and bow down to the terrorists. That is a signal that can start a string of violence over there that will not cease.

                                                                                                                                    Now, I support Kerry and I know he is not going to just pull us out the moment that he is elected. That would send the wrong signal. I do not agree with why we went to Iraq but understand why the decsion was made. I hope the terrorists dont take this Spanish thing to mean it will work like that over here in the US. The great thing about our country is that when we are faced with hard times we generally stick together. Even though our political parties are so oppostite.

                                                                                                                                    God bless the World. I know we need it.
                                                                                                                                    Thank you, this was the point I tried to illustrate despite my lack of knowledge in the english language. Don't let the terrorists think they'll gain anything with massmurders.


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                                                                                                                                      • WarChild
                                                                                                                                        Let slip the dogs of war.
                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                        • 17263
                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by BradM


                                                                                                                                        You're avoiding the origional question, because obviously you've NO clue what you're going on about (suprising coming from a republican?)

                                                                                                                                        We're talking about the last 25 years and how out of control the states is with war.
                                                                                                                                        Vietnam
                                                                                                                                        Gulf 1
                                                                                                                                        Gulf 2
                                                                                                                                        Afghanistan

                                                                                                                                        The US doesn't listen to even what it's OWN people say.
                                                                                                                                        How out of control?

                                                                                                                                        Vietnam: Did the people of South Vietnam want to be overthrown by the North? the United states didn't invade vietnam, and they didn't take try to take it over. Arguably the meddled in civil war but they were by no means the first. China spreading communism around the free world does nobody any good. Deffenders of democracy have to carry a heavy load.

                                                                                                                                        Gulf 1: Again, Kuwait did not wish to be forcefully overthrown and asked for the help of the ENTIRE WORLD. In answer to this, the United Nations lead by the United States answered their call. They are again a free nation.

                                                                                                                                        Gulf 2: When all is said and done, we can argue this war. For now, it's just oppinions either way.

                                                                                                                                        Afghanistan: Stop supporing terrorists and the US won't blow your country up. Sounds fair. Besides, who the fuck are YOU to judge. Ask the average afghanistan what they think of the United States removing a brutal regime.

                                                                                                                                        You can't listen to everybody all of the time. When the war in Iraw begun, overwhelmingly the American people supported it. THAT IS LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE.

                                                                                                                                        I'm neither a reuplican or a democrat.
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                                                                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by WarChild
                                                                                                                                            As a Canadian, I find it embarassing out goverment doesn't stand united with the USA. We're allowed to get along with very little useful millitary, and not need to worry because of our southern neighbors. If we had Iran to the south of us, we'd sure as shit not have free healthcare and a monster millitary too.

                                                                                                                                            If they want our feable help in their millitary actions sometimes, we should be right there supporting it. I swear it's the french influence, and it's spreading.
                                                                                                                                            No, it's about doing what's right for Canadians and Americans. Most Americans will understand and won't see us as pussies doing whatever they want us to do.

                                                                                                                                            Now we're gonna be needing a bigger military though. Eventually all western countries are gonna have little choice left but to unite against muslim countries. Al-Qaeda will make sure of that, and yes people outside the US will fall into the same trap. Terrorists are quite predictable.

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                                                                                                                                              • Theo
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                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Anna_O

                                                                                                                                                Soul_Rebel, it might be better for a country to give after to terrorists demands sometimes, but what signal does it send to the rest of the world?
                                                                                                                                                You don't give anything to terrorists. You avoid to be related with them on first hand.

                                                                                                                                                What singals do you send to the rest world? Assume anything you want here. Does it REALLY matter? Every country has their own basic priorities. Spain sent troops, because the picture they had back then was more benefits for them than potential losses. They aren't more humanitarian than italians,germans,french and so on. Picture now changes, so does their tactic.

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                                                                                                                                                  • LittleMack
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                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                    #87
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                                                                                    No, it's about doing what's right for Canadians and Americans. Most Americans will understand and won't see us as pussies doing whatever they want us to do.

                                                                                                                                                    Now we're gonna be needing a bigger military though. Eventually all western countries are gonna have little choice left but to unite against muslim countries. Al-Qaeda will make sure of that, and yes people outside the US will fall into the same trap. Terrorists are quite predictable.
                                                                                                                                                    I support our President because he is our President, I might not agree with all policies. I agree with you that it is going to be a larger conflict soon. I do not think Canada is a bunch of pussies, neither do any Americans. Canada is their own country and we support their beliefs and policies. I feel a sad tragic day is brewing on the horizon. WWIII is in its beginning stages.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Roger
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                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                        #88
                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by LittleMack
                                                                                                                                                        WTF, are we all forgetting here that right after 9/11, the majority of Americans and the world supported in getting rid of the terrorist regimes??? Iraq, Iran, North Korea. I do not personally know that Saddam had ties with Bin Laden but he was a evil dicator that murdered 100,000's of his own people over the years. He was a human rights violator to the extreme. I do not like war but I am glad he is gone. Now this new Spanish President is going to show that they are going to bury their heads in the sand and bow down to the terrorists. That is a signal that can start a string of violence over there that will not cease.
                                                                                                                                                        Well thanks for getting rid of him. Perhaps you like to live under another country's control.
                                                                                                                                                        Saddam is surely not the worst of dictators. There are plenty others like him. Are we gonna wage war on 50 or so countries?
                                                                                                                                                        North Korea? Sure, I'm still waiting, I don't see any invasion going on

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                                                                                                                                                          • crescentx
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                                                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Guys on donkeys with shoulder-armed missiles are - with some degree of success - facing down the most powerful military in the world.

                                                                                                                                                            Perhaps, just perhaps, blowing up things is no longer the most effective way of resolving things?

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                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                I don't think Spain should leave immediately. They backed the US in the war against Iraq for a reason. It will definitely send a warped message to the world if a country allows its foreign policy to be shaped solely by terrorist acts. If this happens, expect more terrorist actions.

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                                                                                                                                                                  • WarChild
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Roger


                                                                                                                                                                    Well thanks for getting rid of him. Perhaps you like to live under another country's control.
                                                                                                                                                                    Saddam is surely not the worst of dictators. There are plenty others like him. Are we gonna wage war on 50 or so countries?
                                                                                                                                                                    North Korea? Sure, I'm still waiting, I don't see any invasion going on
                                                                                                                                                                    If I woke up one morning to find out North Korea was just a glowing hole on the other side of the planet, I wouldn't shed even a single tear.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • DaLord
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                                                                                                                                                                        Well here in Europe they are actually already working on that super army bullshit and the new shield to prevent missile attack. So far we have pretty much tried to stay neutral in many ways (as in: buying shields, building that EU super army, ect) but it seems impossible to stay neutral.

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                                                                                                                                                                          • WarChild
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by DaLord
                                                                                                                                                                            building that EU super army, ect)
                                                                                                                                                                            Oh yeah, for sure .. The EU army is just a step away from being the most powerful super army in the world!
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                                                                                                                                                                              • 69pornlinks
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                                                                                                                                                                                haha, look like someone plan backfired..they supposed to fight this unseen enemy becasue 'they' bomb 1st
                                                                                                                                                                                It IS what it IS

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Anna_O
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


                                                                                                                                                                                    You don't give anything to terrorists. You avoid to be related with them on first hand.

                                                                                                                                                                                    What singals do you send to the rest world? Assume anything you want here. Does it REALLY matter? Every country has their own basic priorities. Spain sent troops, because the picture they had back then was more benefits for them than potential losses. They aren't more humanitarian than italians,germans,french and so on. Picture now changes, so does their tactic.
                                                                                                                                                                                    One last post before going to bed.

                                                                                                                                                                                    It DOES matter. This is why police never give up to the demands of hostage takers for instance. Once they do, there will be hundreds of more that know it will pay off to take people hostage.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Giving in to terrorists might be good short-term. But for the long-run it is not. By winning a victory in spain, maybe they go after the Athens olympics next time? Or the Euro 2004?


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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Anna_O
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                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't think Spain should leave immediately. They backed the US in the war against Iraq for a reason. It will definitely send a warped message to the world if a country allows its foreign policy to be shaped solely by terrorist acts. If this happens, expect more terrorist actions.
                                                                                                                                                                                        Exactly. Thank you.


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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by LittleMack
                                                                                                                                                                                            I support our President because he is our President, I might not agree with all policies. I agree with you that it is going to be a larger conflict soon. I do not think Canada is a bunch of pussies, neither do any Americans. Canada is their own country and we support their beliefs and policies. I feel a sad tragic day is brewing on the horizon. WWIII is in its beginning stages.
                                                                                                                                                                                            What pisses me off is that it's the same in every country. Can't they at least try something new to fight terrorism? They all get blinded by hate and revenge and go at it. More nationalism, more religion, etc. It's a loose-loose situation for everyone except for those in power and the religious extremists.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Roger
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                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by $5 submissions
                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think Spain should leave immediately. They backed the US in the war against Iraq for a reason. It will definitely send a warped message to the world if a country allows its foreign policy to be shaped solely by terrorist acts. If this happens, expect more terrorist actions.
                                                                                                                                                                                                They didn't back the war against Iraq, the president did and he lost the electiosn because of it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                That's why the elected party is following it's initial plan and removing the troops even after the terrorist attack.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't know if you noticed but it's Bush who's allowing his country's foreign policy to be shaped by terrorist acts.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • liquidmoe
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by WarChild


                                                                                                                                                                                                    Umm well .. Didn't a little European country named Germany get a little out of hand .. Requiring American intervention?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh and then when they did it again, they took over all of Europe except Britain ... Requiring, once again, some good old US help.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I might be wrong about that, but I could have sword that's what happened?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    WWII American intervention on the European front wasn't to stop Hitler, it was to prevent the Soviet Union from taking over all of Europe. They dealt him his first real defeat during WWII on Russian soil and then started kicking his ass back to Germany. When America saw that Russia was taking over all of Europe it had to act, hence the whole East/West Germany thing, and all of the European commie satellite nations that were setup after WWII.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    In any case, certainly America is getting a bit of its just deserts here. We intervened our noses into others business, and even before that, we were only interested in financial gain. Well, when our financial gains were threatened we used military force, things got really out of hand in those nations and now you got widespread terrorism.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Think back in history, this is the first time that terrrorism is so wide spread, so blatant and being used so often. This is certainly the beginning and it requires some sort of drastic political change or rethinking, certainly war didnt provide the solution.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Take Luck!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • BigPinPin
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        • May 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't think Spain should leave immediately. They backed the US in the war against Iraq for a reason.
                                                                                                                                                                                                        what reasons???

                                                                                                                                                                                                        the nuclear or chemical weapons????

                                                                                                                                                                                                        where are they???? the war is over....still see nothing for the reasons they told you TV Guys before...USA is ruled by Hollywood, TV and a snail brain called george

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