Are Bush & Co. backing down from China?

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  • BRISK
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2003
    • 12240

    #1

    Are Bush & Co. backing down from China?

    In 2001, Bush pledged to do whatever it takes to defend Taiwan. But that was 3.5 years ago, and a lot has changed since then. The US military is stretched as it is with the Iraq situation. So now here we are in 2004, and on October 25, while in Beijing, Colin Powell stated that "There is only one China. Taiwan is not independent. It does not enjoy sovereignty as a nation, and that remains our policy, our firm policy."

    China considers Taiwan to be part of its territory and has threatened to invade if the island formally declared statehood.

    Questions:

    1. Are Bush & Co. backing down from big bad China?

    2. Would congress even support a war against China in the event that it invades Taiwan?
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  • sacX
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    • Dec 2002
    • 2998

    #2
    that's always been the policy, doesn't seem to be backing down.

    The US agrees to sell Taiwan weapons and defend it, but it belongs to China
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    • Lev
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      • Oct 2001
      • 3545

      #3
      America is like a prostitute, who ever (country) offers the most money (self-interest), she will please him (the country)

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      • sacX
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        • Dec 2002
        • 2998

        #4
        Originally posted by BRISK

        2. Would congress even support a war against China in the event that it invades Taiwan?
        Would congress support armageddon?

        *shrug* possibly.
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        • BRISK
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2003
          • 12240

          #5
          Originally posted by sacX
          that's always been the policy, doesn't seem to be backing down.

          The US agrees to sell Taiwan weapons and defend it, but it belongs to China
          Colin Powells statements weren't exactly consistent with America's policy towards Taiwan.
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          • BRISK
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Feb 2003
            • 12240

            #6
            Originally posted by sacX
            that's always been the policy, doesn't seem to be backing down.
            America has a history of avoiding making a clear statement that it recognizes China's claim over Taiwan.
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            • titmowse
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              • Jan 2001
              • 5320

              #7
              i hope to all that is holy, bush just stays the fuck away from china
              Last edited by titmowse; 11-10-2004, 02:42 AM.
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              • dcortez
                DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                • Jun 2003
                • 2145

                #8
                Originally posted by BRISK
                America has a history of avoiding making a clear statement that it recognizes China's claim over Taiwan.
                Yup, when China scooped Taiwan, it was no biggie to much of the world.

                But when Iraq stepped into Kuwait...

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                • Mojiteaux
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 265

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dcortez
                  Yup, when China scooped Taiwan, it was no biggie to much of the world.

                  But when Iraq stepped into Kuwait...
                  Iraq was misled by the US and the Saudis to step into Kuwait

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                  • TheLegacy
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                    • Apr 2003
                    • 18083

                    #10
                    they are going to need more troops.. and guess where they are going to get them from??

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                    • Rob
                      I'm a great bowler.
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 13310

                      #11
                      I sure as hell hope so!

                      China is the ONLY country I fear going to war agaisnt.

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                      • reynold
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                        • Oct 2002
                        • 51271

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sacX
                        that's always been the policy, doesn't seem to be backing down.

                        The US agrees to sell Taiwan weapons and defend it, but it belongs to China
                        yes it all belongs to china.

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                        • dcortez
                          DINO CORTEZâ„¢
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 2145

                          #13
                          Originally posted by HighOnAcid
                          I sure as hell hope so!

                          China is the ONLY country I fear going to war agaisnt.
                          Don't panic.

                          Just keep shopping at the big box stores and you'll have nothing to worry about.

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                          • Rinaldo
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 5086

                            #14
                            China and the US would never happen. A we'd destroy CHina with our supoerior air... and they don't have nearly as strong a navy as we do... now tell me how a country like china could defend its'elf with all that coastline and with no international suopprt?

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                            • crockett
                              in a van by the river
                              • May 2003
                              • 76818

                              #15
                              China is helping keep America's dollar from collapsing by buying US bonds like crazy.. So maybe one could say China is secretly paying off our govt to look the other way?

                              Then again if war were declared they could renege on all the bonds sold to China..
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                              • Veterans Day
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                                • Jul 2003
                                • 8403

                                #16
                                didnt china express they couldnt handle half of our destroyer class subs, let alone anything else? Regardless, aint shit gonna happen
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                                • Manowar
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                                  • Dec 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by titmowse
                                  i hope to all that is holy, bush just stays the fuck away from china
                                  a whole bag of fun that just shouldnt be opened

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                                  • VeriSexy
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                                    • Apr 2002
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                    didnt china express they couldnt handle half of our destroyer class subs, let alone anything else? Regardless, aint shit gonna happen
                                    Both countries would go bankrupt, end of story
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                                    • Veterans Day
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                                      • Jul 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by VeriSexy
                                      Both countries would go bankrupt, end of story
                                      whos talkin about bankrupt? People seem to think we would be fighting a foot war over there, IF it ever happened
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                                      • Vitasoy
                                        GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 58202

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by reynold
                                        yes it all belongs to china.
                                        The weapons are pointing at China though


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                                        • loverboy
                                          When it rains, it pours
                                          • May 2003
                                          • 20609

                                          #21
                                          i don't think it will ever happen.. the two leaders will meet in the scheduled APEC in Chile and for sure both countries will back down

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                                          • Vitasoy
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                                            • Oct 2003
                                            • 58202

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by sacX
                                            The US agrees to sell Taiwan weapons and defend it



                                            2004/11/10
                                            TAIPEI, Taiwan (AP)



                                            Chen is involved in a difficult bid to convince the island's legislature to approve buying an arms package worth 610 billion New Taiwan dollars (US$18 billion; euro 14.5 billion) from the United States.


                                            Cha Ching!
                                            Last edited by Vitasoy; 11-10-2004, 07:38 AM.


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                                            • Vitasoy
                                              GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 58202

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by loverboy
                                              i don't think it will ever happen.. the two leaders will meet in the scheduled APEC in Chile and for sure both countries will back down

                                              Nov 9, 2004
                                              Taiwan fights mock invasion
                                              Taipei - TAIWAN'S army practised fending off a Chinese invasion force by staging a street battle for the first time yesterday.

                                              Such a drill has only been simulated on computers in the past.

                                              Some 1,600 servicemen were involved in the five-day drill codenamed 'Chang Sheng', or ever victory, with the main scenario of a Chinese landing and a Taiwanese unit rushing to repel it, an army officer said.

                                              During the exercise, one group of soldiers forged its way northwards from Taiwan's southern Pingtung county to confront another group coming south from Taichung. They staged a mock battle across a bridge in the southern county of Tainan.

                                              The two groups were identified by the colours red and blue, which traditionally represents the Chinese and Taiwan armies respectively.

                                              But the army spokesman said that such roles were not specifically assigned for this exercise and denied media reports that the military had assumed the Chinese People's Liberation Army was forcing its way inland after making a successful landing in the south.

                                              The manoeuvre came after Mr Joseph Wu, chairman of the Mainland Affairs Council, said that China was increasingly likely to take Taiwan by force.

                                              Mr Wu, formerly a chief aide to President Chen Shui-bian, said that Taiwan must bolster its defence capabilities amid what he said is Beijing's growing hostility towards the island.

                                              Beijing claims sovereignty over the island and has threatened to attack if it declares independence. Mr Chen says that Taiwan is a sovereign state and wants to buy more weapons from the US to boost defences against China.

                                              Both sides have been increasing their military build-up to prepare for a possible war, with Taiwan estimating that China has pointed 610 missiles at the island and is increasing its arsenal by 50 to 75 missiles a year. -- REUTERS, AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE



                                              They're already preparing for the worse.


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                                              • BRISK
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 12240

                                                #24
                                                Would congress even support a war against China in the event that it invades Taiwan?
                                                I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                • directfiesta
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 30135

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BRISK
                                                  Would congress even support a war against China in the event that it invades Taiwan?
                                                  Sure ! Anything to fight Al-Qaeda
                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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