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2 things.Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
Thats the dumbest shit I ever heard..
U think the NHL is about to throw money away???
No fucking way. They don't give a shit if anyone dies in the ring but no way will they reduce their profits ever ever!!!
1. watch your mouth
2. I didnt say that it would happen, or that the league think this is a good idea. I said this would be good for hockey. I love hockey, I grew up with it, and nothing pisses me off more than the dumbass comissioner we have now.
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Originally posted by CraigA
I just read an extremely insightful article about the culture of violence in the NHL that basically condems the Canadian system of developing players. There's a lot of information revealed here that I was totally unaware of being an American.
So what do you Canuks think, is this a fair assessment?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/column...jim&id=1757143
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Canadians = men
Ameicans = girls
Europeans = girls
We will continue to punch you out on the ice.
It is instilled in us at birth : )
Get used to it!
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Despite the violence, Hockey is
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This fucking thing has been blown way out of context. Why for the life of me should I care what some brain dead american writes at espn. He can go fuck himself.Do you need design work done. I am available check out my site TMC Web DesignsComment
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The cheapest shot EVER was Gary Roberts on Mike Peca! Now THAT was cheap!
Fuck Bettman!
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blinding example of canadians remaining calm, nice work captain hypocriteOriginally posted by sixxxth_sense
no way you can blame this shit on Canadians. That's bullshit. Fuck u Americans
! Why would it be a canadian thing? People in Canada are way more calm than u motherfuckers, u know why? Cuz we got somany cultures up here and when u chill with all these different people, you learn something from everyone and you learn to look at things different way you never though of seeing them before! We aren't as ignorent as Americans. Anyway we not the one walkin around with guns poping eachother on the street, there will be a revolution in the USA one day, they gonna call it "Planet of the Apes" hahhaha....
but yeah no its not a CANUCK thing!
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Extremely objective point of view here.Originally posted by Mighty Chin
This fucking thing has been blown way out of context. Why for the life of me should I care what some brain dead american writes at espn. He can go fuck himself.
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we fight in hockey, americans shoot each other.
i really fail to see a problem with our system.Comment
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You've never been to a bantam or junior game then I take it. I have played in and watched hundreds back in the day, and I can tell you without a shred of doubt that as kids get bigger, stronger, and faster, the game gets rougher. It's not a Canadian thing, it is a "Hockey" thing..... and it happens on both sides of the border.Originally posted by CraigA
That's what this article was trying to convey. It's NOT part of the game unless you're watching the NHL.
I've seen tons of cross-border tournaments, seen tons of wicked hits, dirty hits, nasty fights and unnecessary violence from both Canadians and American players.
It's a tough fast hard-hitting game, and very conducive to flared tempers at times.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Originally posted by nathan_f
we fight in hockey, americans shoot each other.
i really fail to see a problem with our system.
You don't see american hockey players whipping out a gun when they rough each other up on the ice though
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Agreed it was cheap, but what he was trying to do is get Moore to turn around and actually fight him instead of running away. It just didnt work out well as the punch knocked his ass out.Originally posted by DrGuile
Canadians play tougher hockey? Yes, you got that right.
But playing tough had nothing to do with the Bertuzzi hit. He hit him from behind like a fucking pansy.
Playing tough is part of the way to win in Hockey. Cheap shots are just BS. But there are idiots everywhere....XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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The article which this thread is related to is about the development of hockey players in Canada, not societal issues. American society is fucked because there are too many guns on the street. But that's another issue.Originally posted by nathan_f
we fight in hockey, americans shoot each other.
i really fail to see a problem with our system.
Too many hockey pucks to the cranium?
Stick to the topic.
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Hahaha. No doubt we do learn to play chippy as kids. We learn to hit hard, we learn to finish our checks everytime, we get taught to clear the net with our sticks.Originally posted by huey
Canadians = men
Ameicans = girls
Europeans = girls
We will continue to punch you out on the ice.
It is instilled in us at birth : )
Get used to it!
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I dont like hits from behind and thats about it. If I am in front of the net and you want to beat the shit outta me with your stick thats fine by me. Part of the game. Its up to the ref to decide if you pushed it to far. If I decide you didnt, you will get a good left hand to your jaw, followed by a good right.XXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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The younger kids playing organized hockey in Canada can't even hit or make contact with one another. Contact starts once they get a bit older, and as they get into the 11-14 yr ages that contact starts getting heavier, with full body-checking being allowed. It is only a few short years more and some of these kids are ready to be drafted, so they need to know how to hit. Period. That's the way it is.Originally posted by CraigA
The article which this thread is related to is about the development of hockey players in Canada, not societal issues.
If they removed body-checking and all forms of contact from the NHL there would BE no NHL. An article like that isn't really worth the paper it's printed on when you look at it in this context.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Fighting in hockey is part of the business plan. That's all there is to it. They could easily put an end to it if they wanted to but imposing the same penelties & fines that they have in other sports. But everyone knows that violence SELLS. So you can't go getting all pissy about it when someone gets hurt. There's only ever an uproar when someone gets badly injured. I don't think anyone sets out to break a guy's neck. But as long as violence is 'tolerated' (we all know its encouraged) in this game, injuries will continue to happen.
The same people that are all up in arms about the Bertuzi hit are MANY of the same people who would feel ripped off if there wasn't a good fight in the game they were watching.
Either get rid of it (the violence) or quit bitching about it when someone gets hurt.Comment
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No one said anything about removing full body checking. That IS part of the game.Originally posted by CDSmith
The younger kids playing organized hockey in Canada can't even hit or make contact with one another. Contact starts once they get a bit older, and as they get into the 11-14 yr ages that contact starts getting heavier, with full body-checking being allowed. It is only a few short years more and some of these kids are ready to be drafted, so they need to know how to hit. Period. That's the way it is.
If they removed body-checking and all forms of contact from the NHL there would BE no NHL. An article like that isn't really worth the paper it's printed on when you look at it in this context.
Dropping the gloves, sucker punching someone from behind or hitting someone with a stick are not.Comment
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Like I said, the nature of the game is conducive to having tempers flare up from time to time. That's the way it is. Don't like it? Don't watch it, don't let your kids play it.Originally posted by CraigA
No one said anything about removing full body checking. That IS part of the game.
Dropping the gloves, sucker punching someone from behind or hitting someone with a stick are not.
And again, violence in hockey is not a "Canadian thing"..... it's a HOCKEY thing. It happens in US leagues as well.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
The hockey allowing this is wrong anyways . It'S not nobody's fault except the NHL . Everything that is allowed to win will be made . Canadians are best at winning in hockey so they will use violence if needed...
Dre,
You have no clue what so ever what hockey or the NHL is about! Hockey is an international sport and the most diversified sport ethnically with players from Russia, Sweden, US, Finland, Swiss, German, Czech Republic etc...
If you have NEVER played the game you have no idea what goes into it. Hockey is an extremely fast paced sport and it is very easy in the heat of the moment for tempers to flare. The biggest problem in the NHL is the instigator rule. You to be that guys policed themselves and guys were accountable to each other for their actions. Now in an attempt to pussify the game for American audiences, they have done everything to try to keep fighting out of the game. All that has led to cheap shots and more guys using their sticks on each other. On the old days if a guy gave another player a cheap shot there would be a price to pay for it. Now adays due to NHL rule changes guys get away with that crap.
Dre, it seems to me that you and others are trying to take one isolated incident and turn it into your overall synopsis of the game. With if we all did that it would mean, All NFL players are cocaine dealers just looking for their next sharpie endorsement. All MLB are crackheads who spend their time in the Darryl Strawberry home for underacheiving losers. And finally but not least all NBA players like to have parties and shoot their butlers. If Terrel Owens was in the NHL he would be Donald Brashears bitch!
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I will also add here, the guy (Bertuzzi) was suspended, he will miss the playoffs entirely, and will lose an estimated $500,000 in wages over this incident. Plus the entire hockey world is pissed at him and will be for quite a while. That's like death to a pro player... missing the playoffs etc.Originally posted by CraigA
No one said anything about removing full body checking. That IS part of the game.
Dropping the gloves, sucker punching someone from behind or hitting someone with a stick are not.
I just don't like the title of this thread, insinuating that it is "a Canadian thing" or that it is Canada's fault in some way. Canadians have always played tough hockey, we're talking decades and decades here. Doesn't mean that cheap shots and extreme violence aren't frowned upon, because they most certainly are.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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everyone knows that without fighting, hockey would just be a bunch of fruity canadians figure skating with sticksPubicBucks - Trade your pubes for bucks!Comment
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