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  • JerseyPuma
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    • May 2002
    • 1149

    #1

    are native hawaiians inherently violent?

    This is a serious question. It seems like every time I see some kind of special about surfing in Hawaii there are always a couple fights that happen, either between two surfers or between a native surfer and someone visiting from the mainland. I know in things Ive heard about the history of the people that they were warriors who needed to fight, so is this the reason its carried over so long? Anyone living there with an inside scoop?
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  • candyflip
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    • Jul 2002
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    #2
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    • Basic_man
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      • Oct 2003
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      #3
      Dunno, never heard of somethings like that..

      Do you live in Hawaii ?
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      • Noe
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        • May 2004
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        #4
        No, that's not true. Hawaiins are, by nature, very laid back and peaceful. It's just that surfers can get very territorial from time to time.
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        • Double L
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          • Nov 2004
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          #5
          I have 3 friends that live there and the locals are often dicks to them. Not violent though. More of a get the fuck out of here look or stare.

          A culture difference for sure. It's highly looked down upon for a local chick to date a non-local for example.

          Surfers can be dicks in their own rights whether their locals or not, often claiming their surf territories...

          Locals aren't white... It's not just a tourist thing that defines locals. Live there 10-20 years and get to know you community and then you almost are considered a local (but you'll never be treated as a 100% local unless you're hawaiian)...

          Just what I've been told.. I dont live there.. Thought about going for a year or 2 though.

          Also depends on which island of course.
          Last edited by Double L; 11-05-2004, 06:39 AM.

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          • OzMan
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            • Sep 2003
            • 9162

            #6
            Originally posted by Double L
            I have 3 friends that live there and the locals are often dicks to them. Not violent though. More of a get the fuck out of here look or stare.

            A culture difference for sure. It's highly looked down upon for a local chick to date a non-local for example.

            Surfers can be dicks in their own rights whether their locals or not, often claiming their surf territories...

            Locals aren't white... It's not just a tourist thing that defines locals. Live there 10-20 years and get to know you community and then you almost are considered a local (but you'll never be treated as a 100% local unless you're hawaiian)...

            Just what I've been told.. I dont live there.. Thought about going for a year or 2 though.

            Also depends on which island of course.

            In my experience as a white person having previously lived in Hawaii for almost three years I would have to say your friends have given you pretty accurate info. There are very few white people living there that were born and raised. Most come for a taste of paradise and leave after a year because of the cost of living.

            Hawaii is unique in many ways. It feels more like Asia than the US. It is also a great place to experience racism as a white person to remind you what the black and latino etc population experience in most mainland communities daily. Since it is such a multicultural community there is of course racism. A percentage( not all) of the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos and Hawaiians etc hate each other just for their race, and they usually seem to unite in their racism against white people.

            This was a challenge for me and one easily met by getting to know people and then it doesn't matter what race you are (mostly).

            Don't let it put you off though, I made some great friends there and would quite happily move back there tomorrow.

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            • ytcracker
              stc is the greatest
              • Dec 2002
              • 12403

              #7
              im a haole but im actually hawaiian
              my grandmother is chinese/hawaiian
              my moms side of the family


              all of my moms sisters have hawaiian middle names and my mom was born in honolulu
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              • QuaWee
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                • Jul 2004
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                #8
                Originally posted by JerseyPuma
                This is a serious question. It seems like every time I see some kind of special about surfing in Hawaii there are always a couple fights that happen, either between two surfers or between a native surfer and someone visiting from the mainland. I know in things Ive heard about the history of the people that they were warriors who needed to fight, so is this the reason its carried over so long? Anyone living there with an inside scoop?
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                • Shoplifter
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                  • Jan 2002
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Double L

                  Locals aren't white... It's not just a tourist thing that defines locals. Live there 10-20 years and get to know you community and then you almost are considered a local (but you'll never be treated as a 100% local unless you're hawaiian)...

                  And the irony is that 90% of the locals are Filipinos or Samoan or whatever.

                  It also depends what island you are on, the racism seems to be worse on Oahu than some of the others.
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                  • OzMan
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                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9162

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ytcracker
                    im a haole but im actually hawaiian
                    my grandmother is chinese/hawaiian
                    my moms side of the family


                    all of my moms sisters have hawaiian middle names and my mom was born in honolulu
                    So technically you are hapa as in mixed not pure ha'ole.

                    Damn bro have you thought about living there? Even with 1% Hawaiian heritage you would get some good deals, even though you would have a hard time convincing the locals if I remember your pic correctly.

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                    • BRISK
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #11
                      You'd probably be pissed off too if the white man illegally took your country away from you.
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                      • Holly
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                        • Jun 2003
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                        #12
                        They're angry about the high prices they pay for milk and bread.
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                        • Amputate Your Head
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                          • Aug 2001
                          • 39075

                          #13
                          you see one video where some dumbass surfer gets his ass beat for being retarded and you make a summary judgement about all Hawaiians being violent?

                          get a fucking grip.
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                          • BRISK
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                            • Feb 2003
                            • 12240

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Holly
                            They're angry about the high prices they pay for milk and bread.
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                            • NinjaSteve
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                              • Dec 2003
                              • 11089

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Holly
                              They're angry about the high prices they pay for milk and bread.
                              But that's bullshit and their own fault. Milk and bread are made locally. They just left the prices all jacked up
                              ...

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                              • jawanda
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                                • Feb 2003
                                • 6040

                                #16
                                They are mean to white folks until you earn theire respect ...

                                haven't you ever seen "North Shore" ??

                                Turtle and shit ... that guy was a true loc, but he didn't get much respect.

                                Chandler on the other hand ...

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                                • Amputate Your Head
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                                  • Aug 2001
                                  • 39075

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jawanda
                                  They are mean to white folks until you earn theire respect ...

                                  haven't you ever seen "North Shore" ??

                                  Turtle and shit ... that guy was a true loc, but he didn't get much respect.

                                  Chandler on the other hand ...
                                  that's the dumbest thing you've ever said.
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                                  • ytcracker
                                    stc is the greatest
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 12403

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by OzMan
                                    So technically you are hapa as in mixed not pure ha'ole.

                                    Damn bro have you thought about living there? Even with 1% Hawaiian heritage you would get some good deals, even though you would have a hard time convincing the locals if I remember your pic correctly.
                                    yea my little brother looks the part though
                                    hes dark as fuck

                                    i know its hard to believe but we are actually decendents of the female children of original kamaehamehas - when there was no males i believe the lineage shifted.

                                    supposedly our names are on the quilt in the palace maintained by the geneology organizations

                                    oh well interesting tidbit
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                                    • reynold
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                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 51271

                                      #19
                                      I don't know about this one. never heard of anything like that.

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