Fuck TGP's! Cut Out This Blood Sucking Middle Man! (better conversions)

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  • jayeff
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 2944

    #51
    The traffic flow you describe isn't especially off the wall, but...

    If you aren't big enough to do this alone, the chances are you will need more than just a few friends who you trust absolutely. So you are going to get cheats and time-wasters. That in turn means someone will have to check the galleries to keep out the crap and make sure the network is free of 404's, re-directs and the rest. He gets paid how? With traffic? If so, you just created your own equivalent of a TGP operator.

    And isn't the whole point of submitting to TGPs to get a share of their traffic? By extension isn't it a reasonable assumption that most submitters do not have significant traffic sources (or if they do, are directing them elsewhere)? So will you be the only traffic source and expect to get that traffic back via extra links or whatever? If so, you will end up to all intents and purposes in the role of a TGP operator.

    You write as if TGP operators are just parasites stealing traffic from passing gallery builders. Which totally ignores the reality that running a big TGP is a very expensive, time consuming business. It's naive to think you can somehow dispense with those central functions, yet achieve the same or better results.

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    • Odin88
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3267

      #52
      Originally posted by OzKaNoz
      Btw, Broke
      So you know, I did not contact Shemp about your reply in this thread.

      Oz
      Don't lie....

      Actually I think it is pretty safe to assume that shemp was scrolling GFY and he saw 'fuck tgp's' so he clicked on the link.

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      • the Shemp
        congrats to the winners
        • Nov 2001
        • 10891

        #53
        Originally posted by Odin88


        Don't lie....

        Actually I think it is pretty safe to assume that shemp was scrolling GFY and he saw 'fuck tgp's' so he clicked on the link.
        ya, i watched this thread from the beginning as i was updating my site with nonblindlinked galleries tonite ;)
        i use Vacares...so should you
        Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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        • Odin88
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 3267

          #54
          Originally posted by the Shemp


          ya, i watched this thread from the beginning as i was updating my site with nonblindlinked galleries tonite ;)
          I feel honored

          The idea is still developing, but I think it could become quite a nice thing for gallery designers.

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          • slackologist
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2002
            • 2379

            #55
            interesting idea. i might experiment with some galleries.

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            • Praguer
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2002
              • 991

              #56
              As a paysite owner and I can tell that TGP's remain the bulk of my conversions.

              I do not have an affiliate program or submitt galleries myself, I pay a few people to submitt for me with good results 15-20 sign ups/day.

              If the TGP's have unfair rules, give away too much, etc.. I do not really care, bottom line is their traffiic converts.

              Maybe the problem is that way too many people promoting the same stuff.
              Last edited by Praguer; 03-12-2004, 02:02 AM.

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              • broke
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 4501

                #57
                Shemp

                I'll respect your wishes and remove your button, but do think you are over reacting here.

                The blind linking thumbs was an idea that was thrown out as brainstorming and is not even being discussed realisticly any more.

                You know how to contact me if you change your mind.
                Last edited by broke; 03-12-2004, 02:05 AM.
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                • blazin
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 2781

                  #58
                  May I be the 1st to say:

                  "What a load of codswallop!"
                  I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                  • the Shemp
                    congrats to the winners
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 10891

                    #59
                    Originally posted by broke
                    Shemp

                    I'll respect your wishes and remove your button, but do think you are over reacting here.

                    The blind linking thumbs was an idea that was thrown out as brainstorming and is not even being discussed realisticly any more.

                    well the blindlinking of thumbs was explained in the opening post.
                    its not something that i want to be associated with me. the shemp button in your positive response, may give the impression that "shemp" goes along with this.

                    its not a big deal to anyone but me, im sure. thanks
                    i use Vacares...so should you
                    Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                    • OzKaNoz
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 1834

                      #60
                      Originally posted by broke

                      ... and OzKaNoz mind your own fucking business.
                      Excuse me? What the fuck are you talking about.
                      LOL, your the dumb ass that screwed yourself by making a statement that went against what Shemp believes. Add by sporting his button for pay then you have to look out for his interest.

                      Broke, you get the dumb ass of the year award.

                      So don't ever tell me to fuck off. Its not a good idea to burn bridges in this business.

                      Oz
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                      • broke
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4501

                        #61
                        I apologize.

                        I have edited my post to reflect that I read yours wrong.
                        Perfect Gonzo

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                        • the Shemp
                          congrats to the winners
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 10891

                          #62
                          Originally posted by OzKaNoz

                          Excuse me? What the fuck are you talking about.
                          LOL, your the dumb ass that screwed yourself by making a statement that went against what Shemp believes. Add by sporting his button for pay then you have to look out for his interest.

                          Broke, you get the dumb ass of the year award.

                          So don't ever tell me to fuck off. Its not a good idea to burn bridges in this business.

                          Oz
                          just for the record, i swear on a stack of blindlinked thumbs....
                          that OZ did not contact me.
                          i use Vacares...so should you
                          Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                          • OzKaNoz
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2001
                            • 1834

                            #63
                            Opps, lol
                            You edited your statement sorry. Pay no attention to my reply

                            Oz
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                            • OzKaNoz
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 1834

                              #64
                              Broke its cool. Sorry for my reply back also.

                              No harm done

                              Shemp Thanks LOL


                              Oz
                              Techie Media Web Hosting

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                              • the Shemp
                                congrats to the winners
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 10891

                                #65
                                too funny, see what happens when you start blindlinking...
                                have a good evening
                                i use Vacares...so should you
                                Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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                                • OzKaNoz
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 1834

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by the Shemp
                                  too funny, see what happens when you start blindlinking...
                                  have a good evening
                                  LOL

                                  Oz
                                  Techie Media Web Hosting

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                                  • SCORE Ralph
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 2090

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Odin88

                                    Another thought for the traffic (something which I think *could* work). You list all your galleries on the one domain. xxxsexporn.com for example. At the bottom of each gallery (or else in the middle or somewhere else) you link to your main page 'see all my free porn galleries here' (or something similar). So the surfer clicks there and ends up on xxxsexporn.com and see's a list of your galleries only.

                                    This is not a daily updating page, but rather a nice little organised page of what free porn you contribute to the world.
                                    In this case, you are turning it into a freesite. We have a few freesites ourselves (www.bigtithound.com) with our galleries interlinked and connecting to the main page... cant say that the conversion is any better or worse than TGP traffic, but there are so many factors that may influence this. my
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                                    • Odin88
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 3267

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by aspwm


                                      In this case, you are turning it into a freesite. We have a few freesites ourselves (www.bigtithound.com) with our galleries interlinked and connecting to the main page... cant say that the conversion is any better or worse than TGP traffic, but there are so many factors that may influence this. my
                                      Yes, that would be a freesite as such, however it was only a thought. We have moved beyond this now though, and are now starting to come up with some serious ideas as to how this could be done. Thanks for your though, and the bump.

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