A realists view of economics

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  • Probono
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 2731

    #1

    A realists view of economics

    I tacked this on the tuition thread but I think it is important enough to stand on it's own.

    The rich cannot be rich without the sweat of the poor. That has never changed. Teresa Heinz Kerry does not manufacture ketchup, thousands of working people manufacture ketchup using their sweat and the capital of those who own stock in Heinz. That is the upper and the middle class.

    Remember the primary goal of Heinz is not ketchup manufacturing but returning a good rate of return on the capital, dividends to shareholders. To do that they will pay as little as possible to manufacture the ketchup. So if there are people in timbuktu willing to work for less and freight, tarriffs and other economic forces make it more profitable to make ketchup in Timbuktu that is where they will built a plant. The only mitigating factor is government incentive to keep the jobs at home.

    Wealth is the essence of a capitalistic society and without it would would have some more egalitarian system. Unfortunately no other system seems to work.

    Even the Romans recognized the need for bread and circuses. If you forget the poor and they have no way to eat they will sieze the ketchup factory and eat fat greedy cat with lots of ketchup.

    It takes some recognition of reality to maintain social stability.
    Last edited by Probono; 11-06-2004, 04:30 PM.
  • kaliboy2g
    So Fucking Banned (YEA!!)
    • Jun 2004
    • 10963

    #2
    Moral of Story: Outsourcing is bad.
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    • Alex From San Diego
      Confirmed User
      • May 2001
      • 1642

      #3
      Everyone can't be doctors, lawyers or some other high paying profession. You also need garbageman, dishwashers..etc....

      Your level of success is solely dependent on you, yourself and no one else.

      you have to ask yourself, how much drive do you have and what makes you content?
      We are what we repeatedly do.-Aristotle

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      • Probono
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 2731

        #4
        Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
        Everyone can't be doctors, lawyers or some other high paying profession. You also need garbageman, dishwashers..etc....

        Your level of success is solely dependent on you, yourself and no one else.

        you have to ask yourself, how much drive do you have and what makes you content?
        You are 100% on point BUT never forget this, in a society that does not remember those who have nothing those who have nothing to loose have no incentive to retain a stable society.

        The balance is what has been looked for throughout western history. At it's most insideous it is sterilize the poor and use their labor till they die. That to my knowledge was has never been done. What has been done is keep the poor eating, house and influenced by a religion that makes suicide a sin. Slave today and you will be a king in another life.

        There must be a way to keep the lowerclass calm if not working. I am shocked the government does not distribute drugs in the ghetto, or maybe they do?

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        • Xenophage
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          • Oct 2001
          • 12122

          #5
          I want a colluseum

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