MICHAEL MOORE - Which side did he REALLY help??

Both sides with higher voter turnouts.

hmm 2000 saw the same amount of young voters, no?

true.. he made alot of people wether good or bad vote. and at least the US as a whole made a decision.

Now they just have to live with it

Same PERCENT, but higher overall ammount.

Did only young people see the film or get pissy over Moore?

He may have hurt Bush very slightly. But in the big scheme of things, him and other oustspoke people in Hollywood, Mtv, Howard Stern, for all of their never ending rhetoric, it had no affect.

Thats why I hate celebrities that get political because its annoying and I could care less what they think.

Nah, Hollywood was just not as organized as the Churches.

Moore hurt Kerry.

He only fueled the far left who were already going to vote for Kerry anyway.

His association with the Democratic Party was a huge turn off to people who could of voted either way.

OFf course he helped the democrats a lot more then he hurt them ...

Agreed.

he helped to see the truth

He helped HIS side, AKA, his bank account.

Regards,

Lee

3.) it's not over yet he will help kerry some more just watch,,,

so true

Should email these results to Moore..

Waiting for a few thousand votes to show up in the trunk of somebody's car. Or something else to bring the lawyers into it. The election really isn't over yet. It is not offical.

Well that's fucked up and prolly won't happen. I just luv to stir up shit!

If Ohio swings to Kerry, he would win by two EVs.

'would have won'


which is mute now that the fucker GAVE UP by conceeding...


that in and of itself makes me want to kick him in the ___

mute?

It's not a moot point.. concession means nothing..
if by some miracle Ohio swings to kerry, Kerry wins.. period.

I think there isn't a significant casual relationship between anything that Michael Moore did and the results from the election. I?m sure he was on people?s minds, as his recent work was ingrained with politics and the role of the American presidency. Realistically, it had about as much effect on the election as the new GTA game.

Ironically, emotions overwhelm reason with this as everyone here is left pulling at straws, conspiracy theories or scapegoats. It?s all rather irrelevant and indolent. The reality of the universe is that the universe sucks, pain & suffering are inevitable and there is no such thing as a simplistic answer.

The grand illusion of the modern world is that humans have evolved intellectually, spiritually and emotionally. This is far from the truth. We are all one step away from being monkeys. As a population, we are arrogant, ignorant, insolent, irrational, hedonistic and the product of our environments. The thing that separates you from the myriads of Germans, who voted Hitler into office and then worshiped him and his ideals until we dismembered their government, is not IQ. Your psychology is no different than those of the Romans in 27 BC, the Minoans on the island of Crete, the Egyptians who built the pyramids, Ghengis Khan?s roving hordes, nor of every great or tyrannical empire that has risen and fallen.

We make believe that we do. We think that taking differential calculus or Cohomology in college lets us stick our noses at our great, great, great grandfathers. Michael Moore is just another human in a long chain of humans that has stretched for thousands of years. The results of this election were inevitable. Blaming a contingent of voters for doing something that humans have done in the past, are still doing and will continue to do in the future is hypocritical and quite silly. Instead of labeling people in the Midwest and other parts of the country as radical christians, complete morons, reactionists severs any ability to understand them and their decision making. This is not an election about George Bush. He will come and go in four years. When he?s out of office, I will still stay up past 3 in the morning, I will still eat cereal for dinner, I will still eat cold pizza for breakfast and I will still drive the same crappy car as always (most likely). This election is, instead, about the lack of tolerance we have for our fellow citizenry.

How can you convince someone that their voting for Bush was unwise when you preface any remarks with ?you?re an evangelical, fucking moron.? Same goes for them. Many of us have been called communists, granola heads, and pretty much ever derogatory word that democrats have been generalized with. Two groups of people who are absolutely different and will not for one second try to listen to the other side is heart-breaking and will eventually lead to a sharp decline in our standard of living. Having this dichotomy is a volatile situation. If you are fine with this, so be it. On the other hand, I believe in building bridges and thoughtfully (and courteously) having a dialog with people who obviously see things completely different than us.

Because until you do, you?ll keep on blaming everything on things like Michael Moore?s movie and hundreds of other completely irrelevant things instead of actually learning about why things like this happen. Seriously, do you want ever election to be like this? I certainly don?t. We are all the same, but with different circumstances.

If he legally won, I THINK the conceeding wouldn't make a difference. The EVs would be bound by law. It ain't gonna happen, but I'd laugh my ass off.

You must be a Kerry supporter. You had to poll to figure it out.

how about none of the above? only an idiot would let a movie influence their vote, so anyone that was influenced was probably too high and forgot to vote, or are standing in line tonight

I dont think that it had that much of an impact.

It is pretty funny that you think that is possible

High hopes, but unrealistic.

Was there any change in the polls when F911 came out? I don't think his movie helped or hurt anyone.

I don't think it's possible.
I hate John Kerry.
I hate George Bush.