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should spanking be legalized in the US?

11-05-2004, 02:28 PM

i heard recently that England just said it was OK to spank your kid, sooooooo what are your thoughts? i'm not talking about beating the shit out of your kid, all i'm saying is a couple of fresh smacks here and there.

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11-05-2004, 02:29 PM

No. Child Abuse will never be leagalized.

Should it? It doesnt have to.

Normal parents still spank their kids as a form of punishment

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11-05-2004, 02:30 PM

I do not think it is illegal, is it?
If so since when?

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11-05-2004, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g
No. Child Abuse will never be leagalized.

Should it? It doesnt have to.

Normal parents still spank their kids as a form of punishment

i've seen child abuse, and i've seen spanking. to me they're two entirely different things. i dont condone child abuse but i'm wondering how people feel about smacking their kids without taking it too far

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11-05-2004, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I do not think it is illegal, is it?
If so since when?

i heard it on the radio, so if anyone can find a link. but they said that england has upheld a ruling that its ok to spank your child

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11-05-2004, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I do not think it is illegal, is it?
If so since when?

Any form of child abuse is illeagal.

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Some kids learn from being grounded, others need more serious punishments

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11-05-2004, 02:33 PM

Spanking isn't child abuse.
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11-05-2004, 02:33 PM

kaliboy, nicely said.

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11-05-2004, 02:34 PM

You spank when you are loosing control and have no other choice. It is ridiculous that normal spanking is forbidden.

I know so many kids, and grown kids that need it badly.

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11-05-2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by Peaches
Spanking isn't child abuse.

Exactly.

If a child misbehave they should get punished at an approproate level chose by the 'reponsible' parent.

If that means they should receive a spanking then im all for it.

Todays younger generation has no respect for themselves or others.

Did anyone watch Nanny 911 on Fox the other night?

If ever there was an argument in favor of spanking children if they misbehaved, that program was it.

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11-05-2004, 02:35 PM

When I was little, I went to a public school in Fremont, CA. When I was in kindergarten, we were sitting around in a circle and the teacher was asking us to make words that ryhm. Thinking I was rather clever, I said "Wanda Witch is a bitch..."

I was escorted out of class immediately, and taken to the Pricipals office where she proceeded to phone my mom to "request if she could spank" me.

Interesting eh? That was in 1983.
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11-05-2004, 02:35 PM

spanking is alive and well in Texas schools.. with permission from parents...

I hate when people try and say spanking is child abuse...

that is as bad as saying all pornographers are child pornographers...

remember screaming/yelling can also be considered child abuse as well as degrading a child by humiliating them... so lets stick to a simple spanking and not try and group it all as child abuse...

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11-05-2004, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g
Any form of child abuse is illeagal.

Izz.
Some kids learn from being grounded, others need more serious punishments

i dont know if grounding is enough these days, but of course i'm not saying to go out and beat the shit out of kids either. theres got to be a better medium.

i think parents hould stop being "friends" and start being moms and dads

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11-05-2004, 02:40 PM

1. Spaninking in schools should not be allowed.

2. Normal people and parents know that spanking isnt child abuse.

3. I think the law on it varies in states. Spanking leagal is usually leagally not considered child abuse

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11-05-2004, 02:45 PM

It's think many parents fail to explore other possibilities of discipline.

I see parents spank their kids when they do something wrong, yet they don't also explain to them why what they did is wrong.

IMO, if your kid does something wrong, don't just smack them and say "that's wrong!"

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11-05-2004, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by BRISK
It's think many parents fail to explore other possibilities of discipline.

I see parents spank their kids when they do something wrong, yet they don't also explain to them why what they did is wrong.

IMO, if your kid does something wrong, don't just smack them and say "that's wrong!"

agreed

theres a time and a place to spank a kid, but not every time the kid does something bad

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11-05-2004, 02:49 PM

We are seeing the affects of the "time out" generation now.
The young punks with no respect for anyone who never got a good ass wipping from daddy is now showing us if spanking is good or not.
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11-05-2004, 02:51 PM

Parents need to help their kids understand why things are wrong. Simply smacking your kid when they do something wrong doesn't help them understand why it's wrong, it just helps them understand that it is wrong according to their mother or father.

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11-05-2004, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Moose
We are seeing the affects of the "time out" generation now.
The young punks with no respect for anyone who never got a good ass wipping from daddy is now showing us if spanking is good or not.

I am from the "your best friends momma can also smack ya" generation.
I also have had to go pick a switch. God what a long as walk that was.
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11-05-2004, 02:52 PM

No it shouldn't. I guess if you can spank your kids, you can spank your wife while at it. Afterall, why not? It's not abuse, is it?
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11-05-2004, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by freeadultcontent
I am from the "your best friends momma can also smack ya" generation.
I also have had to go pick a switch. God what a long as walk that was.
I also relized quickly that you do not ask for one of those paddle ball toys, EVER!

Ya, grandma would make us go out to the yard and cut our switch when it was time if the parents were not around.

I also got it in school...they called it the "board of education" haha

That wold suck in front of class getting that thing on your ass.

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11-05-2004, 02:55 PM

My kid knows if he pushes to far, he wins a free trip to spank city.

I constantly get compliments on how well behaved he is and how good his manners are. I hardly ever spank him though, usualy just the threat of a spanking straightens him up instantly.

He gets rewarded for good behavior and punished for bad behavior, its a 2 way street, and it works.
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11-05-2004, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by xenigo
I was escorted out of class immediately, and taken to the Pricipals office where she proceeded to phone my mom to "request if she could spank" me.

Interesting eh? That was in 1983.

Personally it turned me on and she was hot so I kept trying to misbehave to get more spankings. I guess it might have felt different with an ugly teacher.

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11-05-2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by xenigo
When I was little, I went to a public school in Fremont, CA. When I was in kindergarten, we were sitting around in a circle and the teacher was asking us to make words that ryhm. Thinking I was rather clever, I said "Wanda Witch is a bitch..."

I was escorted out of class immediately, and taken to the Pricipals office where she proceeded to phone my mom to "request if she could spank" me.

Interesting eh? That was in 1983.

Similar thing happened to me in grade 1. We were learning how to tell time and we had to trace clocks onto white paper and then we'd fill in the hands to tell a specific time. The other kids were taking so long, the teacher started teaching about it and I hadn't even got one clock traced because the other kids were still using the tracer. I just grabbed it and started tracing fast to catch up because I didn't want to miss out on learning to tell time.

The other kid starts crying, and the teacher took me out of my chair, spanked me, and put me in the hall.
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11-05-2004, 03:08 PM

Misbehaving children (well, sons at least) should be stoned to death. It is the Christian way, therefore it is the American way. God bless the children - they must be stoned to death. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.

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11-05-2004, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by CoolE
Misbehaving children (well, sons at least) should be stoned to death. It is the Christian way, therefore it is the American way. God bless the children - they must be stoned to death. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ.

Deuteronomy 21:18
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

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Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

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And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

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And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

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11-05-2004, 03:18 PM

I used to not believe in spankings. Then I started watching Growing Up Gotti. Now I think they should be mandatory and that other people should be allowed to beat your children, as well.

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11-05-2004, 03:23 PM

A couple years ago.. can't remember where it was... a young teen boy had to go to court for some delinquent act.. The judge asked the grandmother (guardian) what she felt the best punishment would be.. She said that if she knew she wouldn't get into trouble she would have taken a belt to his butt...

The judge stood up, took off his belt and held it out for her and said, "I think you're right."

We, who are older, can remember the, "ass whoopin's" we got.. I probably shoulda got more than I did..

If kids know that there is one of those ass whoopin's waitin if they mess up, they may do things a bit differently...

Too many kids today try to walk all over their parents because they think they have the, "abuse" card they can always play...
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11-05-2004, 03:37 PM

I still think that talking and explaining to your kids will teach them more then spanking them. I think kids grow rage in themselves when they get spanked, since most of them will still think they are getting abused by their parents when they get hit. So explaining wrong and right to the kids will work better, cause you wouldn't create any other issues that don't even exist.

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11-05-2004, 03:42 PM

it illegal here?? I'm taking my mom to court.

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11-05-2004, 03:44 PM

when did it become illegal?

i remember get spanked in school.. they need to that again
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11-05-2004, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by sweetME
I still think that talking and explaining to your kids will teach them more then spanking them. I think kids grow rage in themselves when they get spanked, since most of them will still think they are getting abused by their parents when they get hit. So explaining wrong and right to the kids will work better, cause you wouldn't create any other issues that don't even exist.

Spanking will traumatize sensitive kids.
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11-05-2004, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by xenigo
When I was little, I went to a public school in Fremont, CA. When I was in kindergarten, we were sitting around in a circle and the teacher was asking us to make words that ryhm. Thinking I was rather clever, I said "Wanda Witch is a bitch..."

I was escorted out of class immediately, and taken to the Pricipals office where she proceeded to phone my mom to "request if she could spank" me.

Interesting eh? That was in 1983.

Every year in elementry school (I graduated in 1995) we had to get corporal punishment forms filled out that said if the school was allowed to spank us or not. My other always filled it in to say they weren't allowed to but every year would tell me that if I ever did anything bad enough in school to deserve a spanking she would come down there and do it herself.
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11-05-2004, 04:31 PM

Spanking is not a crime. It's still a school punishment in Middle Tennessee.

Beating the shit out of a child is a crime, but a pop on the butt or the hand is not illegal.
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11-05-2004, 05:33 PM

It's my kid, not the state. Fuck them, and fuck what they think is the right way. The law protects kids too much, and will arrest you if there's even alittle mark on them. Some kids bruise easily, and the parents are the ones who have to suffer.

Look 10-20 Years back, and compare it to the youth in today's world. The streets are filled with wana be gangsters and wigger kids that shake like a leaf when you're stern with them. Why do you think they're this way? LACK OF DISCIPLINE

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11-05-2004, 05:39 PM

it is illegal to abuse your child, not spank them.

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11-05-2004, 05:40 PM

when the fuck was it ever illegal?

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11-05-2004, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by emthree
Look 10-20 Years back, and compare it to the youth in today's world. The streets are filled with wana be gangsters and wigger kids that shake like a leaf when you're stern with them. Why do you think they're this way? LACK OF DISCIPLINE

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11-05-2004, 06:09 PM

It's legal to spank a child in Canada, however there are strict limitations on the age which can be punished this way, and very tight guidelines on the force of punishment. There was quite a bit of discussion about this in the media, as lobbyists attempted to have this law changed, but it was overturned.

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11-05-2004, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by MrIzzz
agreed

theres a time and a place to spank a kid, but not every time the kid does something bad

This I agree with... I don't believe in corporal punishment for every bad act, but the VERY serious stuff, the life and death stuff, I believe in. We caught our son attempting to put somethign into an electrical socket once, caught him just in time. He recieved a fair swat on the butt to imprint as strongly as possible in his mind why what he did was wrong, and that it was a matter of life and death. We discussed it with him, why he was punished, why he recieved the punishment he did for it. How much we loved him and were worried for his welfare, and reiterated that he was NOT to do that ever again under any circumstances. He wasn't angry or hurt after it all, but he remembers what he learned VERY well.

Kids are SUPER smart.. any and ALL punishment of any form should ALWAYS be followed by a discussion of the hows and whys.. otherwise how can we expect our kids to make the right choices when they are left on their own?

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11-05-2004, 06:16 PM

People over 28 years old were spanked and 99.999% of us turned out just fine. Thats my opinion
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11-05-2004, 07:49 PM

I was spanked and it taught me that disobedience was not acceptable in our household. So I think spanking is the best form of discipline.

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11-05-2004, 08:20 PM

I don't believe in spanking children (or animals). I don't believe negative physical contact is ever a solution. There's a fine line between abuse and spanking and the second that line is crossed, the child is never the same. It's not a parent's right to spank their child. No one has any right to physically hurt any human being, especially one much smaller and less mature. So many parents underestimate a child's perception and intelligence. They believe a child only understands something simple like physical pain, when the truth is, kids are capable of understanding a lot more when you explain something to them like they are an adult. There's so many alternatives to spanking and if people would use their minds instead of brute force, maybe things wouldn't escalate to the point of 'needing' a spanking.

Of course that's in a perfect world and the reality is, the cycle will go on and on. Society will keep procreating kids that are spoiled, out of control and/or emotionally scarred, who grow up to be the pissed off dude that shoots everyone in his office because someone ate the last jelly donut.

I don't think spankings should or shouldn't be legal/illegal. I think procreation should have standards and/or limitations.

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11-05-2004, 08:23 PM

I dont think spanking is a bad thing,

HOWEVER!

Teachers aren't perceptive enough to know who shouldn't be spanked/who REALLY should, therefore it has to remain illegal (in schools)

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11-05-2004, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Roger
Spanking will traumatize sensitive kids.

that;s bs
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11-05-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by sweetME
I still think that talking and explaining to your kids will teach them more then spanking them. I think kids grow rage in themselves when they get spanked, since most of them will still think they are getting abused by their parents when they get hit. So explaining wrong and right to the kids will work better, cause you wouldn't create any other issues that don't even exist.

How many children do you have and what ages?
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