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Do you believe in God? Jesus? The Bible? Etc. ?
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excellent arguement... I'm speechlessOriginally posted by Joe Citizen
This is complete and utter bullshit.
You are an idiot.
if you really wanted to contribute anything usefull I'd suggest you try again
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well saidOriginally posted by Doctor Dre
I beleive in God/Jesus/Bible but not in Church and the stupid old grimey pope.
too bad the Catholic Church has brought so much bullshit into the world... don't get me wrong I was raised Catholic but some traditions are just plain wrong, they tend to lose perspective
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Well, I believe in God and JesusOriginally posted by lil2rich4u2
Ok fine every now and then ill spit out a prayer in hopes that there is a "God", but do we really have proof of any real God?
Fact is, we only have documented proof that Jesus was an actual man, and that he actually went through what the Bible says he did. However we dont have any documented proof that he is actually the son of God at all, why is it even beleived?
Why do some people refuse to beleive that we evolved into what we are today?
They're very evident in life's finer details..
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I am a nihilist. I believe in nothing.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Bible = Great Book!! but shitty life guidelines
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Jesus did live, but he was an smart ass alien who was send on earth by intelligent creatures who are living in other solar systems.
The "God" is really group of those aliens who tried to develope human for own selfless purposes, (only god knows what they was).
But obviously they did fail like we can see from peoples here in gfy.
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Ok, then, please, enlighten me. When did Darwin ever said that and, please, give me some reliable source.Originally posted by pradaboy
it's funny that so much ppl think we are the product of evolution while the man behind that theory, Darwin himself has said it's crap and could have never happened.
Not wanting a fight, I'm really interested.
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Jesus was probably a schizophrenic... a sane one. Ever seen "A Beautiful Mind?"
Back then, there was no diagnosis for mental disorders, no crazy hospitals, and no drugs.
Schizophrenics were just allowed to roam the planet telling people of all the wonderful visions they saw.icq: 20427689
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there's actually proof of that, Darwin confessed this before he died... he said that his theory could have never worked and he became a Christian... I will look it up for ya and get back on it allright?Originally posted by Milena Dickman
Ok, then, please, enlighten me. When did Darwin ever said that and, please, give me some reliable source.
Not wanting a fight, I'm really interested.
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I do beleive in a God - just not in the church
Hell we believe in UFO's - hate to break it to you but the concept of God is that He is an Alien! An outside force that created?
Is it that difficult to accept an alien who created a race of man?
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Hey Milena, I searched for it right away, there's quite a lot information on the subject here:
http://www.carm.org/evo_questions/deathbed.htm
I hope that helps, if you wanna know more hit me up
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i believe in the bible, god, jesus etc .. was raised a Christian.
Same here. My Dad wasnt a believer though so after a few years, we quit going to church.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-Darth VaderComment
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Religion is for fuckers that can't think for themselves. It is all a nice fairy tale.JedMaster2112Comment
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this is exactly what this born-again chick said to me. Not sure its true or not but i guess its written somewhere for more than one person to know it.Originally posted by pradaboy
there's actually proof of that, Darwin confessed this before he died... he said that his theory could have never worked and he became a Christian... I will look it up for ya and get back on it allright?
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Back up your statement about Darwin.Originally posted by pradaboy
excellent arguement... I'm speechless
if you really wanted to contribute anything usefull I'd suggest you try again
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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Ok fine every now and then ill spit out a prayer in hopes that there is a "God", but do we really have proof of any real God?
Fact is, we only have documented proof that Jesus was an actual man, and that he actually went through what the Bible says he did. However we dont have any documented proof that he is actually the son of God at all, why is it even beleived?
Why do some people refuse to beleive that we evolved into what we are today?
I had some chick at work go off at me about some guy named Darwin that said there was no such thing as evolution? She says that the images we see of the past of what we think are cavemen, are actually 900yr old people and thats why they are hunched over. She says the bible described this is how we were until God cut our life span 2 times?
I dunno, i hate to disbeleive, but it just seams more logical that science had a big role in our being, and that evolution definately exists. I mean dont we have solid scientific evidence of evolution?
I didnt go to sunday school. I consider myself Catholic only to an extent, and by no means practicing.
For the record she is also very against premarital sex. Says that when having sex without being married, that the sins of the other person get transferred to your soul, and you become marked or something?
she is heavy into this crap and thats fine, but some of it just doesnt make sense.
personally i think heaven is a myth, made up to comfort morning people.
i think (or atleast would like to) reincarnation is possible.
i think chances are that when you die, you DIE. nothing left, no afterlife, no reincarnation, etc.
No clue why i just typed all this, but since i did ... SUBMIT
It's not that I don't believe in a god, its that I just don't give a shit. Be a good person for the sake of being a good person. There's no point bringing some higher power into the matter.
Personally, I do find the idea of a god egotisical. For humans to believe that we are some sort of culmination of some great plan is just ridiculous. The universe and the earth have been around far longer than humans and will still be here when we become extinct. God is crutch to let people think their lives having meaning beyond the moment their living in.
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http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/ladyhope.htmlOriginally posted by pradaboy
Hey Milena, I searched for it right away, there's quite a lot information on the subject here:
http://www.carm.org/evo_questions/deathbed.htm
I hope that helps, if you wanna know more hit me up
http://www.cincinnatiskeptics.org/bl...-deathbed.html
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/1315.asp
http://www.2think.org/hii/rev002.shtml
http://www.creationtruth.com/articles/didcdrecant.htm
http://www.skeptic.com/review06.html
http://www.projectcreation.org/CStation/v9n3-meek1.htm
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf057/sf057g18.htm
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html
You must have ignored countless links that disagreed with your lie until you finally found one just as deceitful as you are.
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ummm no... I took the first one Google pooped out actually, what do you expect that ppl agree on something that backs Christianity up???Originally posted by Joe Citizen
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/ladyhope.html
http://www.cincinnatiskeptics.org/bl...-deathbed.html
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/1315.asp
http://www.2think.org/hii/rev002.shtml
http://www.creationtruth.com/articles/didcdrecant.htm
http://www.skeptic.com/review06.html
http://www.projectcreation.org/CStation/v9n3-meek1.htm
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf057/sf057g18.htm
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html
You must have ignored countless links that disagreed with your lie until you finally found one just as deceitful as you are.
Of course there are ppl who say it is a lie and there are ppl that say this is the truth, I believe the story and there are lots of ppl who do, your problem is you're afraid to admit you have no control over your live... you're just fooling yourself!
If you would search through the dozens of links you dig up you'd see there's no solid proof it happened or didn't happen!
if you are happy believing that Charlie the Chimp is your ancestor plz go ahead
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I bet you didn't even click one link even though they are from sources from both atheist and fundamentalist Christian websites. From one end of the spectrum to another. Both sides agree you are wrong. Why can't you just admit it?Originally posted by pradaboy
ummm no... I took the first one Google pooped out actually, what do you expect that ppl agree on something that backs Christianity up???
Of course there are ppl who say it is a lie and there are ppl that say this is the truth, I believe the story and there are lots of ppl who do, your problem is you're afraid to admit you have no control over your live... you're just fooling yourself!
If you would search through the dozens of links you dig up you'd see there's no solid proof it happened or didn't happen!
if you are happy believing that Charlie the Chimp is your ancestor plz go ahead
Darwin did not recant his theory. Nor did he become a christian. That is an established fact.Comment
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The only proof of his existence is a letter from a Roman historian who mentions the "Followers" of Jesus and the fact that after his death disciples were preaching in his name.Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
not positive of the second part, but dont we have absolute proof of his existence?
i thought we did.
However what has to be considered is they were preaching at a time when Rome ruled where they were. They could have been crucified for preaching an anti Roman message; the Roman penalty for most things in those days was crucifixion.
Then you have to consider that for the next 1500 years Rome ruled the religious world. They decided what was fact and what was not, they decided that out of all the stories and gospels on Christ which ones we could read, which ones were in the bible. Do you think they would have allowed an anti Roman/Christian version to see the light of day?
Whether God or Jesus exist/existed what we have to remember is that what we have been told has been controlled by men with an ulterior motive. Men with the same lust for power, wealth and scruples as GW Bush. There are glaring discrepancies in the bible that today would not get passed an 11 year old, but because MEN tell you it comes from "The Holy Bible" it is suddenly fact.
For one instance, Moses and the Children of Israel. He led them out of bondage in Egypt, parted the Red Sea and destroyed the Egyptian army. Yet there are no records of this ever happening other than a story Jews told in their bible. The Egyptians at the time were very good and prolific record keepers.
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Another thing to consider is the way they say his birth and his life fulfilled the prophecies about the Messiah.
You then have to consider whether they happened or were written to have happened that way.
Even on this thread we have people disputing the life of Darwin and his theory on evolution, so how do we know what happened two thousand years ago?Comment
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There is no proof, there never will be proof because there is no god!
Religion is the biggest bullshit story, as George Carlin says
They actually get people to believe that there is a invisible man in the sky! And he needs your money!
I go fully with what George says
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I personally agree, but for some reason a comic loses credibibility in a religious conversation. Go figure.Originally posted by JDog
There is no proof, there never will be proof because there is no god!
Religion is the biggest bullshit story, as George Carlin says
They actually get people to believe that there is a invisible man in the sky! And he needs your money!
I go fully with what George says
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When I consider that some people really believe in virgin birth, the flood and Noah's Ark, and all that stuff I am truly astonished. It's like grownups going around believing in the Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus.
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I have to say I believe. So far these are some amazing things that God has seen me through.
1. I was shot at 5 times from less than 100 feet not one bullet hit me.
2. Gave me two kids when doctors said my wife couldnt have kids.
I could go on and on, I will prolly go to hell anyways for being on GFY so much with all this porn floating around. I will just have to ask God to forgive me when I see those pearly gates. GFY is my soap operas I can't go a day without it.
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Explanations;Originally posted by RainMailer
I have to say I believe. So far these are some amazing things that God has seen me through.
1. I was shot at 5 times from less than 100 feet not one bullet hit me.
2. Gave me two kids when doctors said my wife couldnt have kids.
I could go on and on, I will prolly go to hell anyways for being on GFY so much with all this porn floating around. I will just have to ask God to forgive me when I see those pearly gates. GFY is my soap operas I can't go a day without it.
1. Bad shot & luck
2. Doctors are not Gods and therefore can be wrong.
Also if we are not descended for a member of the Ape family, why is our DNA so close to a chimps? Did God create a chimp then go and have another stab at it? Why did he not create us as something totally unique?
What is wrong with being related to apes? I'm so confident and secure about what we have created since the day we stood upright I thinks it's great where we started and nothing to be ashamed of.Comment
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nice charly, finally someone who shares my thoughts but actually has the knowledge to spell it out lol
my ignorance is my weakness, i dont know enough about the subject to debate it one way or another.
all i know is it just seams to be a very made up story
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Make a long story short.. most people I know do not believe in God. Personally, the Bible sounds more like a book of guidelines written by man to frighten man. It is old, outdated.. and can not stand up to our much more difficult environment now as our life requires a bit more mental and emotional strife in order to survive happily. I personally believe in God, but not in the Bible. Everyone I know is more into Wicca.. but just ask yourself, beyond evolution.. who the fuck made everything? It didn't just appear. And heres a scarier question you'll never answer.
If indeed God made man... then who made God? And what made him?
Its actually a quite frightening though but you can count on ONE answer. It is beyond our mental comprehension, even if the answer was right before us we would never find it.. as a people are too closeminded, not because we choose to be but because we have to be, to survive.Comment
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The Bible, was created under the orders of The Roman Emperor Constantinus, 400 years after Jesus was crucified.
Thousands of documents already existed chronicling his life as a mortal man, his marriage with Marie Magdalene and possibly the birth of a son. Constantinus commission ordered to omit all those gospels that sopke about christ human traits and embelished those that made him godlike.
All the earlier Godspels were outlawed, gathered up and burned. (That's what the crusades were about )
In spite of the great efforts form the church to hide those early gospels, to date there are dozens of historians and books who have documented (or tried to document) what really happened.
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Yes it did, its called science lol.Originally posted by Winterverse
ask yourself, beyond evolution.. who the fuck made everything? It didn't just appear.
It is scientifically understandable and beleivable that we evolved from something. Even if it was a mere mollecular speck of a fungus (spelling is all fucked, i know)
but it is proven to be possible.HEY!!
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Its obvious the universe wasn't started by any means that science can explain and honestly I doubt they ever will be able to.. not for a couple of hundred lifetimes at least. And for clarification, regardless if people believe or not there is/was a 'God' ..doesn't have to be in a religious manner but compared to its/their ability to create in which we simply don't have unfortunately that ranks them/it God above usOriginally posted by lil2rich4u2
Yes it did, its called science lol.
It is scientifically understandable and beleivable that we evolved from something. Even if it was a mere mollecular speck of a fungus (spelling is all fucked, i know)
but it is proven to be possible.
Thing I find funniest is when people watch movies like the Matrix and Men in Black and think "Hmm..I wonder if we're just all in a marble or something.. like an experiment, you know?"
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Finally, someone that knows the history of the Christian religion and some history.Originally posted by Praguer
The Bible, was created under the orders of The Roman Emperor Constantinus, 400 years after Jesus was crucified.
Thousands of documents already existed chronicling his life as a mortal man, his marriage with Marie Magdalene and possibly the birth of a son. Constantinus commission ordered to omit all those gospels that sopke about christ human traits and embelished those that made him godlike.
All the earlier Godspels were outlawed, gathered up and burned. (That's what the crusades were about )
In spite of the great efforts form the church to hide those early gospels, to date there are dozens of historians and books who have documented (or tried to document) what really happened.
You can find some interesting reads here:
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For all of you that believe in Darwin's theory. It's just that. A theory. It has never been proven. If it was scientifically proven. It would not be a theory.
It takes about 100 years for a Cult to become a religion. It used to be not that long ago that Mormons were thought to be a Cult. Now everybody says they are a religion.Comment
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG!Originally posted by icedemon
For all of you that believe in Darwin's theory. It's just that. A theory. It has never been proven. If it was scientifically proven. It would not be a theory.
Scientific theories are never "proven". Ever. They are always tentative, always capable of being falsified.
Darwin's theory is the ONLY scientific explanation of the origins of life on Earth. There is no other theory. It has been around for 150 years and it isn't going anywhere because it has withstood the test of time. Just like gravity, evolution is reality.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."
Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975)Comment
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You are right. Theoretically speaking, of courseOriginally posted by Joe Citizen
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG!
Scientific theories are never "proven". Ever. They are always tentative, always capable of being falsified.
Darwin's theory is the ONLY scientific explanation of the origins of life on Earth. There is no other theory. It has been around for 150 years and it isn't going anywhere because it has withstood the test of time. Just like gravity, evolution is reality.
"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution."
Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900-1975)
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Originally posted by Ironhorse
You are right. Theoretically speaking, of course
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