You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!
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designers usually make the galleries, not the sponsorOriginally posted by Alex from Montreal
You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!
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I would check out EpicCash Galleries, a hell of alot nicer than your average sponsor galleries...
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The sponsors dont think they can make really good money from them so they do it half ass. They see the hosted galleries as something they need to attract and keep webmasters not as a actual way to drive traffic.Comment
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I don't think you can fairly say that "all" sponsors have awful free hosted galleries. It's all about checking each sponsor out and checking their content and FHG's. Some are shitty and some look pretty damn good. I can't complain because I sure the hell couldn't do any better.
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The sponsor should know what kind of templates will "sell" and if the designers can't do them, why retain their services? Don't sponsors care about the bandwidth they burn from unproductive templates?Originally posted by detoxed
designers usually make the galleries, not the sponsorComment
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I went thru about 100 sponsors with FHG, I think only about 10 of them had templates that looked that were made to convert. The others mostly consisted of thumbs all grouped toghether and graphics, very little selling about the paysite IMO! Some only even had one banner at the top and another at the bottom of the page...Originally posted by ~MistressRacin~
I don't think you can fairly say that "all" sponsors have awful free hosted galleries. It's all about checking each sponsor out and checking their content and FHG's. Some are shitty and some look pretty damn good. I can't complain because I sure the hell couldn't do any better.
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i have to agree with alex here
i see very often eg. a hairy pussy gallery with a girl that is shaved
and oral gallerys with just plain fucking in them"where ever you go..there you are."Comment
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All PD galleries have movies in them
I stay busy.Comment
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Hence the problemOriginally posted by detoxed
designers usually make the galleries, not the sponsorXXXRewards - Karups - Boyfun - Jawked. Paying on time since 1997. Contact me at brent [at] xxxrewards.comComment
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People get their cut so they don't complain . I put my own galleries (I made over 3000 and put them in the database) and used the same colors of my site . I made 10 times more signups and my prod on my tgp went way up . I don't like sponsor hosted galleries since then .Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!
I've done that years ago . I don't see what's the big buzz nowdays .Originally posted by rayadp05Comment
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I'm actually quite in love with our hosted galleries :-)Comment
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I agree 100%
Most of them suck so bad it doesn't matter what content gets plugged into them.. or worse, the wrong content all together.
I got a deal on galls if you're a sponsor looking to make your galleries better
Check it outSIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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mind posting an example URL? I am not sure if I am using your program or not - so if you got a few links....Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I'm actually quite in love with our hosted galleries :-)
honestly, I am looking more at buying my own templates from really good designers (like Fletch and Erosmetrosexual) and just building up my own DB
Too many of these hosted galleries just send empty hits
no reason these things should convert so awful - the sponsors should be refining the layouts, striving for better ratios and more joins. Too often the layouts either remain the same, or get worse.Comment
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truly underexposedComment
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I know the designers here will have my head for this .. and I do put a lot of time in effort into designing nice looking galleries but..
I believe it's the content that makes the sale.. not the template/design.
The only reason I put forth effort in designing "nice looking" galleries is a) the simpler the design the less the surfer has to look around to find a link that just might bring him to more of the content he just fell in love with and b) so I don't put off TGP owners and get rejected.
I just don't think a nice design has much influence in making the sale. A surfer isn't going to shell out his hard earned cash unless he's had some kind of connection with the content and wants to see more. He's not going to pay $20 a month 'cause you presented him with a great looking gallery.
On the other hand .. a poorly designed gallery might make it hard for the surfer to find what he's looking for .. and the #1 rule of advertising is to make it as easy as possible for the customer to buy your product.
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sureOriginally posted by Steve
mind posting an example URL? I am not sure if I am using your program or not - so if you got a few links....
honestly, I am looking more at buying my own templates from really good designers (like Fletch and Erosmetrosexual) and just building up my own DB
Too many of these hosted galleries just send empty hits
no reason these things should convert so awful - the sponsors should be refining the layouts, striving for better ratios and more joins. Too often the layouts either remain the same, or get worse.
in fact, eroswebmaster did several of our hosted galleries/templates
http://www.cumsmothered.com/gallerie...0&_u=/main.php
http://www.eighteenies.com/galleries...0&_u=/main.php
http://www.analthrusting.com/galleri...0&_u=/main.php
and it should be noted, the affiliate can change the gallery linking code to toggle consoles on/off, change the site price (and their payout), as well as the page the surfer will land on when they click to go to the membership siteComment
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Originally posted by garett
I know the designers here will have my head for this .. and I do put a lot of time in effort into designing nice looking galleries but..
I believe it's the content that makes the sale.. not the template/design.
The only reason I put forth effort in designing "nice looking" galleries is a) the simpler the design the less the surfer has to look around to find a link that just might bring him to more of the content he just fell in love with and b) so I don't put off TGP owners and get rejected.
I just don't think a nice design has much influence in making the sale. A surfer isn't going to shell out his hard earned cash unless he's had some kind of connection with the content and wants to see more. He's not going to pay $20 a month 'cause you presented him with a great looking gallery.
On the other hand .. a poorly designed gallery might make it hard for the surfer to find what he's looking for .. and the #1 rule of advertising is to make it as easy as possible for the customer to buy your product.
I agree...
From my experience galleries with NO design, just text do better than a gallery made by a designer. Its the text and content thats important not how pretty the gal is.Comment
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I think the galleries by DTI I am currently using are pretty good. Cute Asian girls, clean design, nice conversion.
eg: http://www.sexpixbox.com/testhz/TGP_...plate/s15.html<a href="http://click.dtiserv2.com/Click/1125-99-us979" target="_blank">DTI cash: Top Asian Sponsor, $75 to new affiliates</a><br>
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Most sponsor galleries are all graphics. And they are "slapped" together without any thought of what will turn the surfer on if they get to the paysite itsself. I see FHGs promising something that is not even mentioned on the paysite tours.
Many have no selling text and as already said, many are off theme. It's insane.
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because as with most gallery designers their main priority is to impress other webmasters with pretty graphics and have little or no concerns for ctr and conversions.
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take a look at pimproll.com galleries...Comment
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I agree, just make a simple design with text. people just dont click on banners like they used to. A simple design that loads fast, has good content and some good creative text selling your sponsor will convert better than any pretty gallery will. At least my experience is that.Originally posted by garett
I know the designers here will have my head for this .. and I do put a lot of time in effort into designing nice looking galleries but..
I believe it's the content that makes the sale.. not the template/design.
The only reason I put forth effort in designing "nice looking" galleries is a) the simpler the design the less the surfer has to look around to find a link that just might bring him to more of the content he just fell in love with and b) so I don't put off TGP owners and get rejected.
I just don't think a nice design has much influence in making the sale. A surfer isn't going to shell out his hard earned cash unless he's had some kind of connection with the content and wants to see more. He's not going to pay $20 a month 'cause you presented him with a great looking gallery.
On the other hand .. a poorly designed gallery might make it hard for the surfer to find what he's looking for .. and the #1 rule of advertising is to make it as easy as possible for the customer to buy your product.'Comment
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Their galleries suck because they lack any real experience working in the industry. They attempt to copy what other sponsors are doing and hope gullible webmasters will push their programs.Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!
Last edited by SomeCreep; 03-08-2004, 06:06 PM.Comment
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The reason is that most paysite owners don't understand the TGP business, or the TGP surfer.
Come to think of it, 90% of the people who post galleries to TGP's don't understand the TGP business or the TGP surfer.
They look at hosted galleries as something they have to offer to compete with the other programs, the same way they have to have full page ads, banners, whatever.
They hire designers who they "think" understand TGP traffic, but sadly 90% of the designers out there don't know how to convert TGP traffic either.
If you look at program owners who came up via the TGP side of the industry you'll see galleries that are made to convert the TGP surfer. (nastydollars and bangbros come to mind)sig too bigComment
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Originally posted by Steve
truly underexposed
its slowly comming along,especially now that more people are looking for places to give their ethnic traffic a homeSig heil
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now THESE look like galleries that will make both of us money - and I am joining up right nowOriginally posted by SykkBoy2
sure
in fact, eroswebmaster did several of our hosted galleries/templates
http://www.cumsmothered.com/gallerie...0&_u=/main.php
http://www.eighteenies.com/galleries...0&_u=/main.php
http://www.analthrusting.com/galleri...0&_u=/main.php
and it should be noted, the affiliate can change the gallery linking code to toggle consoles on/off, change the site price (and their payout), as well as the page the surfer will land on when they click to go to the membership siteComment
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Well.... usually sponsor do it very good FHG.
Like this for example: http://www.mature-tales.com/01/Comment
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Are we in the top 10?Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
I went thru about 100 sponsors with FHG, I think only about 10 of them had templates that looked that were made to convert...
All our gals can be improved but they are not that bad ;)
http://freepornofreeporn.com/2003-07...oocdcbgdb.htmlComment
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greatOriginally posted by Steve
now THESE look like galleries that will make both of us money - and I am joining up right now
if you need anything, feel free to hit me up
[email protected] or on ICQ 11231574Comment
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will do man
already signed up, wrote descriptions and added you into my DB so you should start getting into pages overnight
looks like you guys did a real nice job - cant wait for you to add moreComment
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thanksOriginally posted by Steve
will do man
already signed up, wrote descriptions and added you into my DB so you should start getting into pages overnight
looks like you guys did a real nice job - cant wait for you to add more
we're adding templates so affiliate can create their own custom FHG's too
Pick a Sponsor
Pick a Template
Pick a Content Set
and it's autogenerated
From there (you can do this on current galleries as well) you can toggle consoles on and off by adding a 0 (zero) to &console= you can also change pricing points on the site by changing the &type and change the page the surfer will land on (warning, main, tour, etc.) by &_u=/ If you want to send to an alternate tour (more coming by the way) you can edit the &tour=Comment
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Originally posted by Braincash Fred
Are we in the top 10?
All our gals can be improved but they are not that bad ;)
http://freepornofreeporn.com/2003-07...oocdcbgdb.html
Fred, your galleries would be nice if you didnt redirect them!
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I agree...Some sponsors have low quality Hosted's....But
webmasters forget that they are FREE...some ungreatful lazy fuck
of a webmaster, expects the sponsor to provide everything.....If a
sponsor has bad galleries, download the free content and build
your own gallery...my
http://www.sweetroyalties.com ~ Designers earn recurring income off your hardwork with SWEETROYALTIES!!Comment
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WellOriginally posted by detoxed
designers usually make the galleries, not the sponsor
when designers make galleries, they certainly meet certain specs given By the sponsors
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sounds totally tits! just remember to e-mail your webmasters once you go live with all the new goodiesOriginally posted by SykkBoy2
thanks
we're adding templates so affiliate can create their own custom FHG's too
Pick a Sponsor
Pick a Template
Pick a Content Set
and it's autogenerated
From there (you can do this on current galleries as well) you can toggle consoles on and off by adding a 0 (zero) to &console= you can also change pricing points on the site by changing the &type and change the page the surfer will land on (warning, main, tour, etc.) by &_u=/ If you want to send to an alternate tour (more coming by the way) you can edit the &tour=
I always thought you had your shit togetherComment
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They must have the wrong people working for themICQ #286508534Comment
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It maybe be "free" but an unproductive FHG cost me in lost income and bandwidth fees, not to mention my time.Originally posted by AlbertSweet
I agree...Some sponsors have low quality Hosted's....But
webmasters forget that they are FREE...some ungreatful lazy fuck
of a webmaster, expects the sponsor to provide everything.....Comment
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Alex I will have to disagree 100% with you on this mate,
What is nice looking to you may not be nice looking to other webmasters for one! The next thing How do you know the not so nice looking ones a sponsor has don't convert like mad? Just because galleries are not pretty flashy don't mean they wont convert. In fact Doing this now for 3.5 years I have learned in the long run Plain, simple and to the point converts 100 time better!
*shrugs* but just like you this is my
Tom
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they are so that they convert great like fpa'sComment
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I'm not talking about nice vs ugly FHG. I'm refering to galleries that "sell" their paysite. Big difference.Originally posted by va2k
Alex I will have to disagree 100% with you on this mate,
What is nice looking to you may not be nice looking to other webmasters for one! The next thing How do you know the not so nice looking ones a sponsor has don't convert like mad? Just because galleries are not pretty flashy don't mean they wont convert. In fact Doing this now for 3.5 years I have learned in the long run Plain, simple and to the point converts 100 time better!
*shrugs* but just like you this is my
TomComment
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from you ( You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!)Originally posted by Alex from Montreal
I'm not talking about nice vs ugly FHG. I'm refering to galleries that "sell" their paysite. Big difference.
maybe I don't understand then that statment lead me to think just what I thought, but as everyone knows I kind of think different from normal people
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No problem. By nice, I meant converting and not nice looking.Originally posted by va2k
from you ( You would beleive sponsors would know enough about their paysite(s) to make nice (converting) galleries!)
maybe I don't understand then that statment lead me to think just what I thought, but as everyone knows I kind of think different from normal people
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