WHy does the USA doesn't change the way they choose a new president?

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  • justsexxx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 13723
    #1

    WHy does the USA doesn't change the way they choose a new president?

    4 years ago a lot of trouble with who is the winner, this year again.

    Why not make it simple. Person with MOST votes becomes the president. I heard it would be Bush this time, but 4 years ago Al Goore.

    It would make it much easier.

    In other words, what makes the current system better, then the one I suggest?

    Andre
    Questions?

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    • Joe Citizen
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2003
      • 4552
      #2
      Because everything in the USA is the best even if it doesn't work properly... and there is absolutely nothing the USA can learn from the rest of the world because (of course) the USA does things the best!

      Haven't you learned anything from GFY?

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        • Gynecologist
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2004
          • 2184
          #3
          There is no real trouble this time. The only reason people are creating drama is because of what happened 4 years ago. The provisional votes in Ohio cannot put Kerry in the lead.

          Bush got more votes than any President in history.

          I am not happy about this because I REALLY wanted Kerry to win

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            • Wiggles
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • May 2004
              • 14423
              #4
              The system will never change, the results suck, but time to move on I guess.
              no sig

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                • Joe Citizen
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 4552
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Gynecologist
                  Bush got more votes than any President in history.
                  Just a thought, but do you think that might have something to do with the fact that you have a higher population now than at any other point in your history?

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                    • justsexxx
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Aug 2001
                      • 13723
                      #6
                      Originally posted by Gynecologist
                      There is no real trouble this time. The only reason people are creating drama is because of what happened 4 years ago. The provisional votes in Ohio cannot put Kerry in the lead.

                      Bush got more votes than any President in history.

                      I am not happy about this because I REALLY wanted Kerry to win
                      Okay, well maybe this year it will be okay.
                      But still, why not listen to the majority at the first place?

                      Also this way votes won't go "unused" because now when in State A 49% kerry 51% Bush and the state has a LOT of people, kerry loose a lot of votes.(and vice versa) So in texas it doesn't make much sense for democrats to vote for the president for example, which is a shame.(and again vice versa)

                      Andre
                      Questions?

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                        • Webby
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14956
                          #7
                          There are clearly some interested parties that hope to maintain this current scenario.

                          Tho who the fuck knows why there is any need for an "electoral college" these days...

                          But... again... it suits some and they still like to think of the country as a democracy with values :-)
                          XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

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                            • Gynecologist
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 2184
                              #8
                              Originally posted by justsexxx
                              Okay, well maybe this year it will be okay.
                              But still, why not listen to the majority at the first place?

                              Also this way votes won't go "unused" because now when in State A 49% kerry 51% Bush and the state has a LOT of people, kerry loose a lot of votes.(and vice versa) So in texas it doesn't make much sense for democrats to vote for the president for example, which is a shame.(and again vice versa)

                              Andre
                              Because the USA is country of states. The electoral college keeps the highly populated states from deciding who will be the president.

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                                • Odin88
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2003
                                  • 3267
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                  Because everything in the USA is the best even if it doesn't work properly... and there is absolutely nothing the USA can learn from the rest of the world because (of course) the USA does things the best!

                                  Haven't you learned anything from GFY?
                                  Pretty much on the ball. I remember having an arguement with baddog about it, and no matter what it seems people like him can just not accept any inferiority on their part. As a whole though, democracy and Western civilisation (with regards to electing leaders) around the world needs to be refined as a process. Democracy is not a very refined or fair process, it only happens that America's system is a little worse.

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                                    • Joe Citizen
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 4552
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Odin88
                                      Pretty much on the ball. I remember having an arguement with baddog about it, and no matter what it seems people like him can just not accept any inferiority on their part.
                                      baddog is a mindless, brainwashed drone.

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                                        • swedguy
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 7981
                                          #11
                                          Swedish TV made fun of the system so many times this night.
                                          "Yeah, we left this voting system some time ago... about HUNDRED years ago"
                                          "It's not very good that people will have to wait for several hours to just vote. We also had that problem.... about HUNDRED years ago, but we took care of the problem"

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                                            • Theo
                                              HAL 9000
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 34515
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Gynecologist
                                              There is no real trouble this time. The only reason people are creating drama is because of what happened 4 years ago. The provisional votes in Ohio cannot put Kerry in the lead.

                                              Bush got more votes than any President in history.

                                              I am not happy about this because I REALLY wanted Kerry to win
                                              Come on. Votes are getting counted and announced while people STILL vote. That's INSANE.

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                                                • Gynecologist
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2004
                                                  • 2184
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                  Just a thought, but do you think that might have something to do with the fact that you have a higher population now than at any other point in your history?
                                                  Of course that is a factor.

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                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 32189
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Gynecologist
                                                      Because the USA is country of states. The electoral college keeps the highly populated states from deciding who will be the president.
                                                      That's one aspect of the checks and balances the Framers of the Constitution stated they had in mind in using the EC system. Another reason is they weren't exactly big fans of direct democracy, many like John Jay and Madison feared the rule of the mob. Hence, EC acts as a check against the 'passions of the masses.'

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                                                        • Dalai lama
                                                          Strength and Honor
                                                          • Jul 2004
                                                          • 16540
                                                          #15

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                                                            • reynold
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 51271
                                                              #16
                                                              I think it's quite good and it works anyway.

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