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An actual Business thread on GFY ..... How often does your host backup your server?

11-01-2004, 12:37 PM

Ok, I'm probably venting.....little bit ticked , ok, ALOT ticked, because I screwed up a Live page on one of my sites very early yesterday morning and didn't have a local copy. Totally my own fault for editing it in my ftp program and uploading without making a copy, so I kicked myself and then immediately requested any copy of that page from a recent backup.

Now, since this page has been running live on my site for a day and a half now , I'm wondering this....

How often does your host backup your server?

and

Why would a particular page NOT be found in a recent backup?

Please share........

If nothing else, I need to vent....anybody that wants to call me and let me bitch them out right now is welcome to

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11-01-2004, 12:39 PM

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11-01-2004, 12:39 PM

Naked Hosting backs my stuff up weekly! They save my ass all the time!!

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11-01-2004, 12:40 PM

Never. Usually the hosts backup services are overpriced, and then when the time finnaly comes that you need it, for some reason the backup is screwed up.

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11-01-2004, 12:40 PM

Twice a day or more, depending on which server.

We also tend to keep local copies.

And we always, always backup pages locally and on the server before we work on them.

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11-01-2004, 12:41 PM

one a week...works for me

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11-01-2004, 12:42 PM

Never. I learned long ago working on an insurance company
project that if your livelyhood depends on it, run 2 servers and
a development box.

Development -> Staging Server -> test test test -> Live Server

Make 3 months updates at a time and then just move them over
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11-01-2004, 12:42 PM

We run a local network, so we're always backed up.

You can never have too much money or too many backups...

Mojohost.com backs us up once a week.

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11-01-2004, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by RocHard
Twice a day or more, depending on which server.

We also tend to keep local copies.

And we always, always backup pages locally and on the server before we work on them.

I know, it was my stupidity for not making a copy and I have really cursed myself since yesterday morning for it. But GEEZ why in the hell would my host not have a copy of this page anywhere in my backups ? I'm pissed

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11-01-2004, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by some_idiot
Never. I learned long ago working on an insurance company
project that if your livelyhood depends on it, run 2 servers and
a development box.

Development -> Staging Server -> test test test -> Live Server

Make 3 months updates at a time and then just move them over
on your maintance days.

Holy shit. So you know what an implementation plan, impact plan is....along with a data migration proceedure and roll back plan is as well !

There is hope.

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11-01-2004, 12:57 PM

if this was the page with Heather Hamptons in bondage, i probably have that saved somewhere...

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11-01-2004, 01:00 PM

Rackspace does nightly backups for me. Saved my ass more than once.

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11-01-2004, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by the Shemp
if this was the page with Heather Hamptons in bondage, i probably have that saved somewhere...

haha !!! No ...I don't do her site anymore LOL and it was a much more important page... my own "Whats New" page with a few monthes of archived weekly updates and all the links to updates dating back to 2002

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11-01-2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
haha !!! No ...I don't do her site anymore LOL and it was a much more important page... my own "Whats New" page with a few monthes of archived weekly updates and all the links to updates dating back to 2002

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11-01-2004, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by the Shemp
you mean the sites was backed up, but that page was lost ?

Yes, I've been told a couple different things, one was that there was no backup of that page and the other was that the page backed up with the blank copy that I had screwed up on

Either way....I'm likely screwed out of a page that held monthes worth of archives for my site.

Don't know what in the hell happened. I uploaded it and it uploaded blank. It was my fault for not having a local copy of it and now I'm really screwed

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11-01-2004, 01:13 PM

Screwed up situation Ivy. Any thing you can do about it? What about the wayback machine?

Someone has to have the link to that right?

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11-01-2004, 01:16 PM

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11-01-2004, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Raven
You can never have too much money or too many backups...

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11-01-2004, 01:18 PM

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11-01-2004, 01:18 PM

well i back up all my stuff every day sometimes twice a day if i've been uploading a lot...

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11-01-2004, 01:23 PM

I'm with National Net and they back up my database server every day (for an additional charge). My other servers are backed up weekly.

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11-01-2004, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by PrivateIvy
Yes, I've been told a couple different things, one was that there was no backup of that page and the other was that the page backed up with the blank copy that I had screwed up on

Either way....I'm likely screwed out of a page that held monthes worth of archives for my site.

Don't know what in the hell happened. I uploaded it and it uploaded blank. It was my fault for not having a local copy of it and now I'm really screwed

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11-01-2004, 01:27 PM

NEVER EVER EDIT A LIVE DOCUMENT!!!!!
That is Server admin 101, you must have a test server to make these changes on (or at least backup the files before you make a change. We usualy take the file and do a .old at he end ot the date and it makes it easier to rollback if needed.

Never edit live websites!!! We backup our servers to tape and do a rsync to a backup server we have at our office so we have 3 copies at all times, believe me you need to do this.

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11-01-2004, 01:29 PM

Our servers do it once a day, it looks for changes on the server and downloads the most recent changes.

We had a terrible problem 8 months ago where we lost over 2 weeks of data and had no backup. Never again...

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11-01-2004, 01:33 PM

Well THANKFULLY

I found it in Google's cache from last weeks crawl:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache...new.htm+&hl=en

I LOVE GOOGLE NOW !!!

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I'm back in business :-

And will never ever again edit and upload without saving a copy locally

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11-01-2004, 01:33 PM

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11-01-2004, 02:37 PM

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11-01-2004, 02:45 PM

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11-01-2004, 03:03 PM

We do nighly backups.. but like the posts above say its always best to have a local copy just in case.
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11-01-2004, 03:07 PM

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11-01-2004, 03:18 PM

i think my shit is backedup daily.

But i have local backups also just in case.

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11-01-2004, 03:20 PM

You'll find that the usual answer is:

IF virtual server - Daily (At least)
If not -- find a new host. The reason for this can be a lot of security issues with shared server environments. If a client gets pissed off at the hosting company, they might go off on the server and mess up a lot of other clients of the hosting company as well (on that virtual server).

IF dedicated server - usually never, unless you are paying specifically for that service.

with a dedicated server, you are usually responsible for your own backups.

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11-01-2004, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by goBigtime
You'll find that the usual answer is:

IF dedicated server - usually never, unless you are paying specifically for that service.

with a dedicated server, you are usually responsible for your own backups.

Webair does do weekly backups for dedicated servers ,no extra charge.

Turns out the server backed up the day that I uploaded the page and so it backed up the page that was blank.

But it's all fixed now and thanks to Mike @ Webair, I'll have daily backups from now on But I will NEVER edit a live document again without saving a local copy first LOL so hopefully it won't matter !

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11-01-2004, 03:53 PM

NEver ... I don't ask them to do that

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11-01-2004, 03:55 PM

The webhost I run is raid5 so it's instantaneously backed up as soon as you even upload a .001 k image...

Every host should do nightly backups at least, or you should start looking for a serious host.
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11-01-2004, 03:57 PM

What's a business thread?

Kidding!

I have my own servers and I back them up weekly.
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11-01-2004, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Disco_Stu
The webhost I run is raid5 so it's instantaneously backed up as soon as you even upload a .001 k image...

Every host should do nightly backups at least, or you should start looking for a serious host.
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11-01-2004, 05:23 PM

sorry you lost your page, but you found it agfain, cool

why in fucks name is a web designer not saving the entire site locally and editing a live page? i have all my sites saved locally, and backed up on my tape drive

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