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  • Paraskass
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    • May 2002
    • 5829
    #1

    One of my friends has gone crazy... Anybody you know ever go crazy?

    He's lost it.
    He's not paranoid, but he's a weirdo now... he's crazy in a sense that people think he's a freak... he's not dangerous or violent but just odd. People look at him and laugh. He doesn't even notice. People try to get away from him and he won't leave them alone...

    he's unable to read human emotions....

    It's sad, I've known him for 10 + years.

    When someone is crazy, can you tell him he's crazy, straight up? Is it worth trying to help him?

    He's like this compulsive freak.



    Any first hand experiences???
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    • juicylinks
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      • Apr 2001
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      #2
      send him to a shrink

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        • Manowar
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          • Dec 2003
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          Does he toke on the crack pipe ?

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            • BoNgHiTtA
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              • May 2003
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              #4
              One of my best friends growing up had this fucked up family situation. His grandparents raised him and always told him they were his parents. Then, his real parent came back and she tried to be his mom again. But, she was too much wanting to be his friend or whatever.

              Anyways, after a decent amount of drug abuse, he is pretty much insane now. Doesn't leave his house, and from last I heard, is not extremely coherent.


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                • Paraskass
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                  • May 2002
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by juicylinks
                  send him to a shrink
                  I might give his parents a call.
                  They are worried and think he has gone crazy.

                  They are right.
                  I thought they we're the problem, but I saw it first hand today.

                  Maybe he should be hospitalised....

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                    • Mutt
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                      • Sep 2002
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                      #6
                      has he seen a doctor? don't abandon him, most people will. one of my best friends became a schizophrenic when he was 20, i was the one who diagnosed him, hadn't seen him in about a year and within 15 minutes of being with him I knew something was very very wrong and it wasn't drugs. So i called his parents and asked them what was up with Marc - they told me he had been acting strangely and they were worried. I told them i think he has a major mental problem maybe schizophrenia from what i observed - and within a couple weeks he was diagnosed. Very sad, this guy was major popular, good with chicks, rich parents - all down the tubes cuz his wiring went bad. Most of the friends abandoned him pretty fast - not blaming them because it's not very pleasant to be around a mentally ill person.

                      bet your friend can be helped - even schizophrenics if they stay on medication can lead somewhat normal lives. my friend's problem is that he refuses to stay on the medication for long so it's been a revolving door in and out of hospital for 15 years.
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                        • wvuatl
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                          I knew a guy in College who ate a hit of acid and never stopped tripping...

                          His parents said he was boarderline schizophrenic and the acid triggered full-on schizophrenia.

                          HE WENT NUTS

                          For like 3 days we was saying all kinds of strange shit... reading books up-side-down...

                          He shit is pants, literally...

                          Then asked us all not to kill him...

                          It was freaky! Almost like he was possesed.
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                            • Paraskass
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Mutt
                              has he seen a doctor? don't abandon him, most people will. one of my best friends became a schizophrenic when he was 20, i was the one who diagnosed him, hadn't seen him in about a year and within 15 minutes of being with him I knew something was very very wrong and it wasn't drugs. So i called his parents and asked them what was up with Marc - they told me he had been acting strangely and they were worried. I told them i think he has a major mental problem maybe schizophrenia from what i observed - and within a couple weeks he was diagnosed. Very sad, this guy was major popular, good with chicks, rich parents - all down the tubes cuz his wiring went bad. Most of the friends abandoned him pretty fast - not blaming them because it's not very pleasant to be around a mentally ill person.

                              bet your friend can be helped - even schizophrenics if they stay on medication can lead somewhat normal lives. my friend's problem is that he refuses to stay on the medication for long so it's been a revolving door in and out of hospital for 15 years.
                              what are the most common symptoms?

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                                • Mutt
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                                  • Sep 2002
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                                  #9
                                  the major tip off that somebody might have schizophrenia is that they appear to be listening to a voice - often they will tell you that a voice is talking to them from the TV set. with my friend i could tell when i was talking to him that he was listening to a voice that wasn't there - it was very obvious. also they just do strange things, appear confused, can't concetrate or follow a conversation for long, so if they're in school or working they will be screwing up big time. there are other mental illnesses where people can disassociate from reality - the term 'mental breakdown' covers a whole bunch of different illnesses, sometimes just people who are mentally exhausted and their brains give up after a period of long and intense stress. Like soldiers who have been through hell, sometimes those people never come back.
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                                    • Elli
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                                      #10
                                      There should be a local mental health clinic he can walk into and get a quick diagnosis and maybe a referral to someone who can help. The earlier you get treated, the better.
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                                        • Paraskass
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                                          • May 2002
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Elli
                                          There should be a local mental health clinic he can walk into and get a quick diagnosis and maybe a referral to someone who can help. The earlier you get treated, the better.
                                          i will give his parents a visit, see whatsup...
                                          see if maybe the know something they never wanted to tell us...

                                          oh well.

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                                            • The Heron
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                                              #12
                                              Kick him in the nuts, see if he reacts like a normal dude!

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                                                • Mutt
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                                                  • Sep 2002
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by wvuatl
                                                  I knew a guy in College who ate a hit of acid and never stopped tripping...

                                                  His parents said he was boarderline schizophrenic and the acid triggered full-on schizophrenia.

                                                  HE WENT NUTS

                                                  For like 3 days we was saying all kinds of strange shit... reading books up-side-down...

                                                  He shit is pants, literally...

                                                  Then asked us all not to kill him...

                                                  It was freaky! Almost like he was possesed.
                                                  another friend of the family, his father was our family doctor, guy was much older than me, about 20, same thing. he was a hippy type kid, poet, musician and into drugs and acting more and more bizarre. Acid triggered his mental illness to get much worse - friends of his found him sitting in his backyard pounding his his head with rocks. Then they went out with him one night to a bar about an hour away - on the way he opened the car door at full speed and tried to jump out, luckily somebody noticed and pulled him back in.

                                                  anyway the worst happened not long after that - i remember this day even though i was 6 years old at most. My mom was acting very strange and sad, think she was crying, so i knew something was wrong, my Dad wasn't home either, he was a lawyer - the guy had dropped out of college and was living at home with his parents, my Mom was good friends with the mom, the mom went to the hair dresser, she came home, opened the door and there was her son, with a chisel - he took his mother's head off, decapitated her in the most brutal way imagineable, my father was called because he was the family's lawyer - the son after beheading his mother with a chisel went to his bedroom, took a knife and sliced his penis off - then jumped through the second floor bedroom window where they found him. He loved his mother, he believed this world was a horrible place and he was saving her from it.

                                                  He was of course found criminally insane and sent to a prison for the mentally insane. He's still there and this is 30 years later.
                                                  what a horrible thing for a family to live through - but ya know, it also shows what family is all about, his father and brother and sister did not abandon him, they didn't blame him, he was and still is very sick, his father went to visit him all the time and hoped he would someday get well enough to get out. Never happened, father is dead now for quite some time.

                                                  Mental illnesses are brutal - i would doubt that anybody on this board doesn't have somebody in the family or close friend without one.
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                                                    • arg
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                                                      #14
                                                      Some schizophrenia symptoms described at:
                                                      http://counsellingresource.com/distr...renia-symptoms

                                                      More professional than layperson terminology, but you can get the gist.

                                                      There are all sorts of disorders though. From what little you've described, I think it *could* be that, but it could be so many other things that I wouldn't even bother speculating on the diagnosis. Talking to his parents, very tactfully, sounds like a good idea.

                                                      If he's exhibited signs of paranoia, be especially careful, as talking about him behind his back, or even confronting him personally, could fuel his paraoia.

                                                      Also note that this and other disorders can vary over a huge range from minor to severe. I know someone with a mild case of schizophrenia, treated with medication for years (they've been getting better and better, with fewer side effects), and he holds a regular job and relates to people pretty well (not common, but like I said there's a range). Conversations can take abrupt turns, and people meeting him think he's a little weird, but it's not obvious that he has this disease.

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                                                        • Missy
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                                          the major tip off that somebody might have schizophrenia is that they appear to be listening to a voice...

                                                          ...also they just do strange things, appear confused, can't concetrate or follow a conversation for long
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                                                            • sickkittens
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                                                              I've had good friends go crazy. Drug problems, mental issues, manic depressive.

                                                              I could write a book on things I've seen them do.

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                                                                • SilverTab
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                  He's lost it.
                                                                  He's not paranoid, but he's a weirdo now... he's crazy in a sense that people think he's a freak... he's not dangerous or violent but just odd. People look at him and laugh. He doesn't even notice. People try to get away from him and he won't leave them alone...

                                                                  he's unable to read human emotions....

                                                                  It's sad, I've known him for 10 + years.

                                                                  When someone is crazy, can you tell him he's crazy, straight up? Is it worth trying to help him?

                                                                  He's like this compulsive freak.



                                                                  Any first hand experiences???

                                                                  weird that you talk about that...one of my close friend commited suicide 4 days ago, just got back from his funerals an hour ago....he was completly paranoid, he tought people were after him, he started inventing stories that never happened...he was a very intelligent person and was aware of his condition and couldn't accept it....he decided to do hara-kiri...the samurai way to die!....I wish I could've been there more for him..I wish I would've talk to him more...still crying while I'm typing this...please, talk with your friend...do anything you can to avoid something like what happened to my friend 4 days ago...best advice I can give you..now all i'm left with is regrets...

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                                                                    • Xplicit
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      This sounds like exactly what happened to my friend James after he took 30 hits of acid in one night, and was never the same.

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                                                                        • Cyndalie
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                                                                          Yeah, I've seen much of the same as well. Some turned suicidal, some got help. Most common element was they were bipolar, either from drug abuse or personal trauma. They tend to lose touch with how they intereact with reality and cannot see how what they see, do, or experience relates to other people and vice versa - or go from one extreme to another.

                                                                          Talk to his family. They guy may need an evaluation to get back on the right track. It won't happen by itself.
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                                                                            • Trixxxia
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              I have a second cousin that's schizophrenic. He was a premie & had a bout of meningitis when he was a few months old too. His mother says she always knew that there was going to be something wrong with him. In his teens, around the time that he was going through puberty, she says he started to change. Paranoia, anxiety, hearing voices, illusions of grandeur, inseminating martians......you name it, he's said it. The thing is that when he takes his meds, he's as normal as they get. The moment he feels better, he stops taking the meds and then goes spiralling down again. It's not easy & I think it's good to mention or question his parents. I believe you can't do anything for him unless he wants to get treated. If he's not dangerous, they can't commit him (forcing him to get treated)

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                                                                                • xclusive
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                                                                                  Just make sure that your friend gets help and continue your support ...

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                                                                                    • SilverTab
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                                      The thing is that when he takes his meds, he's as normal as they get. The moment he feels better, he stops taking the meds and then goes spiralling down again.

                                                                                      this is exactly what happened to my friend...he was taking his meds...everythign was fine, so he tought hey..I don't need to take them anymore!...but he just couldn't accept it...and decided to end it all!
                                                                                      (it wasn't schizophrenia though, it was another mental disorder..basically he was having some dreams/visions, and he tought they were real...he tought the police was after him for some crimes he never actually comitted etc..)
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                                                                                        • CET
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                                          He's lost it.
                                                                                          He's not paranoid, but he's a weirdo now... he's crazy in a sense that people think he's a freak... he's not dangerous or violent but just odd. People look at him and laugh. He doesn't even notice. People try to get away from him and he won't leave them alone...

                                                                                          he's unable to read human emotions....

                                                                                          It's sad, I've known him for 10 + years.

                                                                                          When someone is crazy, can you tell him he's crazy, straight up? Is it worth trying to help him?

                                                                                          He's like this compulsive freak.



                                                                                          Any first hand experiences???
                                                                                          I had a friend I knew for a few years just slowly go that route. It was so slow that it almost wasn't noticable, but one day I was hanging out with him and he was obviously just not all there. From that day on I was never able to have any conversations or even look him in the eye, because I didn't see my friend anymore, just some nut job who needed to be in a hospital.

                                                                                          I know what you're going through, it's really sad to lose a friend to something that neither of you have any control over.
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                                                                                            • CET
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by The Heron
                                                                                              Kick him in the nuts, see if he reacts like a normal dude!
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                                                                                                • CET
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                  He was of course found criminally insane and sent to a prison for the mentally insane. He's still there and this is 30 years later.
                                                                                                  what a horrible thing for a family to live through - but ya know, it also shows what family is all about, his father and brother and sister did not abandon him, they didn't blame him, he was and still is very sick, his father went to visit him all the time and hoped he would someday get well enough to get out. Never happened, father is dead now for quite some time.
                                                                                                  I sympathise, but I'm glad he wasn't ever let out. As much as I sympathise with his illness, he's proven that he is dangerous to society and needs to be kept away from the rest of us.
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                                                                                                    • CET
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                      He was of course found criminally insane and sent to a prison for the mentally insane. He's still there and this is 30 years later.
                                                                                                      what a horrible thing for a family to live through - but ya know, it also shows what family is all about, his father and brother and sister did not abandon him, they didn't blame him, he was and still is very sick, his father went to visit him all the time and hoped he would someday get well enough to get out. Never happened, father is dead now for quite some time.
                                                                                                      I sympathise, but I'm glad he wasn't ever let out. As much as I sympathise with his illness, he's proven that he is dangerous to society and needs to be kept away from the rest of us.
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                                                                                                        • digifan
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                                                          I might give his parents a call.
                                                                                                          They are worried and think he has gone crazy.

                                                                                                          They are right.
                                                                                                          I thought they we're the problem, but I saw it first hand today.

                                                                                                          Maybe he should be hospitalised....
                                                                                                          A call to his parents is not what he needs now or would help him.. in time.
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                                                                                                            • ShellyCrash
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Missy
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                                                                                                                • Nanda
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by arg
                                                                                                                  Some schizophrenia symptoms described at:
                                                                                                                  http://counsellingresource.com/distr...renia-symptoms

                                                                                                                  More professional than layperson terminology, but you can get the gist.

                                                                                                                  There are all sorts of disorders though. From what little you've described, I think it *could* be that, but it could be so many other things that I wouldn't even bother speculating on the diagnosis. Talking to his parents, very tactfully, sounds like a good idea.

                                                                                                                  If he's exhibited signs of paranoia, be especially careful, as talking about him behind his back, or even confronting him personally, could fuel his paraoia.

                                                                                                                  Also note that this and other disorders can vary over a huge range from minor to severe. I know someone with a mild case of schizophrenia, treated with medication for years (they've been getting better and better, with fewer side effects), and he holds a regular job and relates to people pretty well (not common, but like I said there's a range). Conversations can take abrupt turns, and people meeting him think he's a little weird, but it's not obvious that he has this disease.
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                                                                                                                    • angeleyes
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Like Juicy said, send him to a Shrink. It could just be a chemical imbalance which can be brought on by numerous things such as years of a poor diet, established poor sleeping patterns, etc. etc.
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                                                                                                                        • SilverTab
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by digifan
                                                                                                                          A call to his parents is not what he needs now or would help him.. in time.
                                                                                                                          it depends...things like that are hard to accept...it's not easy to accept the fact that you're not totally in control of yourself...any support, including parents, might be welcomed...
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                                                                                                                            • Trixxxia
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                                                                              this is exactly what happened to my friend...he was taking his meds...everythign was fine, so he tought hey..I don't need to take them anymore!...but he just couldn't accept it...and decided to end it all!
                                                                                                                              (it wasn't schizophrenia though, it was another mental disorder..basically he was having some dreams/visions, and he tought they were real...he tought the police was after him for some crimes he never actually comitted etc..)
                                                                                                                              that's kind of like what that my cousin is going through though - I was sure they diagnosed it as schizophrenia. At one point, he was on the metro with me and telling me to tell all the women to stop looking at him - he knows the babies are his but it was their choice. I wanted to get off the metro so fast you have no idea - that's when I realized that there was no possibility it was drugs or alcohol (as others were thinking) this guy really, truly believed that he had inseminated these women.

                                                                                                                              Then let's not talk about the doors - there are about 15 locks to ever door and window of the house.

                                                                                                                              Quite frieghtening, but they can't do anything about it unless his mother (who he lives with) calls he cops and says that he got agressive. They can't force him to get psychiatric help otherwise.


                                                                                                                              He goes through bouts though - there are months where he doesn't take the meds & doesn't seem like he needs them either. I don't know - all I know is that his mom is suffering immensely!

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                                                                                                                                • maja
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paraskass
                                                                                                                                  He's lost it.
                                                                                                                                  He's not paranoid, but he's a weirdo now... he's crazy in a sense that people think he's a freak... he's not dangerous or violent but just odd. People look at him and laugh. He doesn't even notice. People try to get away from him and he won't leave them alone...

                                                                                                                                  he's unable to read human emotions....

                                                                                                                                  It's sad, I've known him for 10 + years.

                                                                                                                                  When someone is crazy, can you tell him he's crazy, straight up? Is it worth trying to help him?

                                                                                                                                  He's like this compulsive freak.



                                                                                                                                  Any first hand experiences???
                                                                                                                                  hmmm... just because others laugh at him and think he's a freak doesn't mean he's crazy. ppl do that to me all the time! no but seriously, what is he doing that is making you worry? and what is he doing to freak people out?
                                                                                                                                  does he have obsessive compulsive disorder?
                                                                                                                                  is he depressed, bi-polar??

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                                                                                                                                    • SilverTab
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                                                                                      that's kind of like what that my cousin is going through though - I was sure they diagnosed it as schizophrenia. At one point, he was on the metro with me and telling me to tell all the women to stop looking at him - he knows the babies are his but it was their choice. I wanted to get off the metro so fast you have no idea - that's when I realized that there was no possibility it was drugs or alcohol (as others were thinking) this guy really, truly believed that he had inseminated these women.

                                                                                                                                      Then let's not talk about the doors - there are about 15 locks to ever door and window of the house.

                                                                                                                                      Quite frieghtening, but they can't do anything about it unless his mother (who he lives with) calls he cops and says that he got agressive. They can't force him to get psychiatric help otherwise.


                                                                                                                                      He goes through bouts though - there are months where he doesn't take the meds & doesn't seem like he needs them either. I don't know - all I know is that his mom is suffering immensely!
                                                                                                                                      I can so relate...my friend was supposed to meet with a girl...(he was interested in her etc...) so they meet up at some restaurant or something...and he tells girl he has aids...poor girl didn't know how to react..thing is..he did not have aids...he went to pass the test shortly after..of course it was negative....

                                                                                                                                      I tried asking him how he was dealing with that..(he was still fully conscious and lucid...) and he told me he didn't knew what was real or fake anymore...

                                                                                                                                      i'm so sad that he's gone now...I miss him a lot..(of course it happened this week so it's still an open wound)....I just can't accept the fact that one of my best friend is gone forever..because of a mental disorder..
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                                                                                                                                            • ShellyCrash
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                                                                                              I can so relate...my friend was supposed to meet with a girl...(he was interested in her etc...) so they meet up at some restaurant or something...and he tells girl he has aids...poor girl didn't know how to react..thing is..he did not have aids...he went to pass the test shortly after..of course it was negative....

                                                                                                                                              I tried asking him how he was dealing with that..(he was still fully conscious and lucid...) and he told me he didn't knew what was real or fake anymore...

                                                                                                                                              i'm so sad that he's gone now...I miss him a lot..(of course it happened this week so it's still an open wound)....I just can't accept the fact that one of my best friend is gone forever..because of a mental disorder..
                                                                                                                                              Is your friend in a hospital now? If he just lost it he might be able to get help. If it just happened suddenly and recently it might be something like brain swelling from a concussion or a reaction to something?

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                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ShellyCrash
                                                                                                                                                  Is your friend in a hospital now? If he just lost it he might be able to get help. If it just happened suddenly and recently it might be something like brain swelling from a concussion or a reaction to something?

                                                                                                                                                  he commited suicide 4 days ago....
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                                                                                                                                                    • ShellyCrash
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                                                                                                                                                      I'm sorry to hear that.

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                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ShellyCrash
                                                                                                                                                          I'm sorry to hear that.

                                                                                                                                                          he was fine when taking his medication...but this all happened so suddently...he decided to stop taking them...went psycho again...but like I said..he was still very lucid....he couldn't accept the fact that he was not in control anymore...he didn't know what was real and what was not....

                                                                                                                                                          still I find it real hard to understand and accept what he did...he was a really close friend...
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                                                                                                                                                              Bad drugs will do that
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                                                                                                                                                                      I did... she found God.
                                                                                                                                                                      She used to lock herself up in the bathroom for hours and cry about her being not worth it.
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                                                                                                                                                                        • CET
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pete
                                                                                                                                                                          Bad drugs will do that
                                                                                                                                                                          Correction: a bad mental condition will do that. Bad drugs won't to anything permanent to a healthy individual.
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                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                                                                                                                                                                              I did... she found God.
                                                                                                                                                                              She used to lock herself up in the bathroom for hours and cry about her being not worth it.
                                                                                                                                                                              People who are not mentally stable and "find god" usually become more mentally unstable, because now they have a whole community of people encouraging them to talk to invisible people and listen to voices in their head. If you love your friend, please, please, please get them away from church, it will only fuck them up more.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • ShellyCrash
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                                                                                                                                  he was fine when taking his medication...but this all happened so suddently...he decided to stop taking them...went psycho again...but like I said..he was still very lucid....he couldn't accept the fact that he was not in control anymore...he didn't know what was real and what was not....

                                                                                                                                                                                  still I find it real hard to understand and accept what he did...he was a really close friend...
                                                                                                                                                                                  I also lost a friend like that, only he was never on meds, so when he did it it was a complete shock. To this day some of our friends that couldn't deal with it call it an "accident". He was never depressed in the classical sense, he was getting progressively more insane, to the point where he was indeed a danger to other people and himself, but I never imagined he would die by his own hand.
                                                                                                                                                                                  He knew he was crazy and was pretty comfortable with it. I think if anything he had a fear of growing up and knowing he would never cut it as an adult. He lived a real peter pan life. He was really violent, but he was always good to me. I miss him sometimes, but I know that he wasn't meant for this world. If he was here now he would either be in jail or in the mental ward, probably comatose on meds. I don't know if it helps you, but at least in my case, after I got over the pain looking back it made sense. His future would have only contained suffering.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SilverTab
                                                                                                                                                                                      he commited suicide 4 days ago....
                                                                                                                                                                                      I had a high school friend commit suicide earlier this year. I can't remember what he was diagnosed with before he died tho.
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by ShellyCrash
                                                                                                                                                                                          I also lost a friend like that, only he was never on meds, so when he did it it was a complete shock. To this day some of our friends that couldn't deal with it call it an "accident". He was never depressed in the classical sense, he was getting progressively more insane, to the point where he was indeed a danger to other people and himself, but I never imagined he would die by his own hand.
                                                                                                                                                                                          He knew he was crazy and was pretty comfortable with it. I think if anything he had a fear of growing up and knowing he would never cut it as an adult. He lived a real peter pan life. He was really violent, but he was always good to me. I miss him sometimes, but I know that he wasn't meant for this world. If he was here now he would either be in jail or in the mental ward, probably comatose on meds. I don't know if it helps you, but at least in my case, after I got over the pain looking back it made sense. His future would have only contained suffering.
                                                                                                                                                                                          yeah pretty much like my friend..no suicidal tendencies..not depressed...he tought he was hurting people..in his letter..he said he was sorry for everything he has done...(pretty much all stuff that he invented)....I wish he would've gone through with his medication! and to think that 3 months ago he was just as normal as I am.....scares me to even think about it....it all happened so fast...
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                              My best friend from high school has been doing speed daily for 2-3 years now. Not meth...he's actually prescribed amphetamines because of "ADD" or some other shit.

                                                                                                                                                                                              However instead of just taking the prescription he insteads takes like 2-3x's the dosage...heads down to Mexico and buys more....etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Anyway...he started this whole paranoid thing awhile back..and it has gotten worse.

                                                                                                                                                                                              He ended up in jail after stealing a government officials car..he spent almost 1 year in jail until they ruled him incompetent to stand trial.

                                                                                                                                                                                              He ended up in the state home for the criminally insane...spent like 2-3 months there and then they let him out.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I would get these long drawn out letters that connected just about every single dot you could imagine to the DEA trying to get him to work for them.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I can't go into some of the stuff he said...it's just that unbelievable and would sound like I'm making it up just to make the story more interesting.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Anyway...he contacted me again recently...I love him like a brother but I've got 2 children here and I don't need someone that dangerous running around.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Some of the things he says scares me now...his family won't have anything to do with him...and pretty much everyone in my family who has taken him in since day one has to keep their distance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CET
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bad drugs won't to anything permanent to a healthy individual.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      if he is a good friend bring him to a shrink....pay for his first visit or two so he has no excuse
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