"Successful" paysites with no affiliates?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • PerfectionGirls
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 4484

    #51
    www.wifeysworld.com

    Yep... and several others.
    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

    Comment

    • Veterans Day
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 8403

      #52
      Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
      www.wifeysworld.com

      Yep... and several others.
      http://www.wifeycash.com
      Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

      Comment

      • Drake
        Hello world!
        • Mar 2003
        • 12508

        #53
        Originally posted by BRISK
        But they don't promote Southern Charms, they promote their own sites.
        Is an AVS webmaster an affiliate or paysite owner? Whatever you call it, they're under the umbrella of a program that takes a cut of their revenue.

        Comment

        • Steen2
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2004
          • 7662

          #54
          Originally posted by Mike33
          Is an AVS webmaster an affiliate or paysite owner? Whatever you call it, they're under the umbrella of a program that takes a cut of their revenue.
          Congrats on 2k.
          ICQ: 2262.73945

          Comment

          • Drake
            Hello world!
            • Mar 2003
            • 12508

            #55
            Originally posted by Steen2
            Congrats on 2k.
            Thanks man!

            Comment

            • BRISK
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2003
              • 12240

              #56
              Originally posted by Mike33
              Is an AVS webmaster an affiliate or paysite owner? Whatever you call it, they're under the umbrella of a program that takes a cut of their revenue.
              and CCBill and Epoch take a cut of revenue out of paysites, does that mean we should just call paysite operators "affiliates"?
              I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
              I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

              Comment

              • Drake
                Hello world!
                • Mar 2003
                • 12508

                #57
                Originally posted by BRISK
                and CCBill and Epoch take a cut of revenue out of paysites, does that mean we should just call paysite operators "affiliates"?
                No because they're only processing the subscription. They're not doing the hosting, updating the main home site, getting more amateur sites up etc.

                But I get your point. Can we end this?

                Comment

                • Steen2
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 7662

                  #58
                  Originally posted by BRISK
                  and CCBill and Epoch take a cut of revenue out of paysites, does that mean we should just call paysite operators "affiliates"?
                  No...
                  ICQ: 2262.73945

                  Comment

                  • pornguy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 62912

                    #59
                    that is right. A few very successful sites out there just do not want to be copied, so they keep to themselves and make a nice chunk of money.
                    PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                    AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                    TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                    Comment

                    • BRISK
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 12240

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mike33
                      No because they're only processing the subscription. They're not doing the hosting, updating the main home site, getting more amateur sites up etc.

                      But I get your point. Can we end this?
                      I know what you mean. My point is that it's a little hard to refer to the SC girls as "affiliates" when they clearly have a direct connection to the running of their own websites and the content that appears on their site, as apposed to say an affiliate of TCG, ARS, NastyDollars who have no input into the sites they send traffic to.

                      I suppose the term "affiliate" is a bit vague.
                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                      Comment

                      • psyko514
                        See sig. Join Epic Cash.
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 22366

                        #61
                        Originally posted by BRISK
                        I know what you mean. My point is that it's a little hard to refer to the SC girls as "affiliates" when they clearly have a direct connection to the running of their own websites and the content that appears on their site, as apposed to say an affiliate of TCG, ARS, NastyDollars who have no input into the sites they send traffic to.

                        I suppose the term "affiliate" is a bit vague.
                        I think what Sly went is paysites where all the promotion/traffic generation is done internally.

                        That's not quite the case for SC.

                        Bad Girl Bucks
                        - 50% Revshare through CCBill.
                        Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more!

                        Phoenix Forum Pics | Webmaster Access Montreal pics
                        email: psyko514(a)gmail.com | icq: 214-702-014

                        Comment

                        • JulianSosa
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 3042

                          #62
                          This thread started off well..

                          Comment

                          • foolio
                            ICQ: 178725656
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 12366

                            #63
                            hell ya - they are cool peep also. They 2 of my single girl sites as 'friends' and dammm the traffic was awesome.

                            Comment

                            • Sly
                              Let's do some business!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 31377

                              #64
                              Originally posted by JulianSosa
                              This thread started off well..
                              Judging from your past posts I got the assumption that you have an in-house setup. No clue what you have though!
                              Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

                              Windows VPS now available
                              Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
                              Click here for more details.

                              Comment

                              • Drake
                                Hello world!
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 12508

                                #65
                                Originally posted by foolio
                                hell ya - they are cool peep also. They 2 of my single girl sites as 'friends' and dammm the traffic was awesome.
                                Any idea how they got so big?

                                Comment

                                • BRISK
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 12240

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by JulianSosa
                                  This thread started off well..
                                  ...until I made it better
                                  I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                  I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

                                  Comment

                                  • codymc12
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 719

                                    #67
                                    50-75 joins a day? Not many.

                                    But 10-20k a month? More than you might think.

                                    There are lots of reasons not to go with an affliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

                                    There are also lots of reasons TO go with an affiliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

                                    It becomes a matter of choice and what level of success is acceptable to you.

                                    Historically, you saw this a lot in the amateur arena. Sites started off with no affliate program, and grew to a comfortable level, successful by any standard. THEN they started affliate programs. Homegrown and Carol Cox are two I could name without feeling I was saying anything anyone didn't want revealed. Both those sites were doing very well prior to starting their affliate programs.

                                    Comment

                                    • codymc12
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 719

                                      #68
                                      an addendum:

                                      I was once told by the owner of a very large, well known affiliate program:

                                      Unless you are bringing deep pockets to the table, a good rule of thumb on starting a paysite - if you can't make it profitable with your own traffic and no affiliates, you probably won't make it as a sponsor.

                                      Opinion only, but I can see the sense of it.

                                      Comment

                                      • EscortBiz
                                        Fuck Checks, CASH only!
                                        • May 2002
                                        • 19422

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by codymc12
                                        50-75 joins a day? Not many.

                                        But 10-20k a month? More than you might think.

                                        There are lots of reasons not to go with an affliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

                                        There are also lots of reasons TO go with an affiliate program - ask anyone who runs one.

                                        It becomes a matter of choice and what level of success is acceptable to you.

                                        Historically, you saw this a lot in the amateur arena. Sites started off with no affliate program, and grew to a comfortable level, successful by any standard. THEN they started affliate programs. Homegrown and Carol Cox are two I could name without feeling I was saying anything anyone didn't want revealed. Both those sites were doing very well prior to starting their affliate programs.
                                        oh

                                        Spanking, Medical Fetish, Sleeping, Strap-on Anal Lesbians, Girls Fucking Guys, Handjob site REAL HOT, Shemales, Anal and Ass Licking sites 100% Real EXCLUSIVE with amazing retention, ccbill payouts, lots of content FREE FTP HOSTING

                                        Promote the largest and oldest member paid escort site, Converts 10 times better then any dating site, CCBill payouts

                                        ICQ# 158802076

                                        Comment

                                        • frankfortuna
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 1504

                                          #70
                                          We operate around 60 mainstream sites focused on the same group of products. Average of 150-225 sales daily with no affiliates.

                                          Comment

                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #71
                                            www.pamporn.com been around and making money since 1998 . . . no affiliates . . . . it is for sale BTW

                                            Comment

                                            • codymc12
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • May 2003
                                              • 719

                                              #72
                                              Wow - pamporn... been around forever.

                                              Comment

                                              • baddog
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by codymc12
                                                Wow - pamporn... been around forever.
                                                want to buy it?

                                                Comment

                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 40377

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                  Thing is, I think Quiet is the only one who's rather public about it. I'm sure there's a few paysite operators out there who are successful but we simply don't know of them because they don't want to be that well known.

                                                  WG
                                                  Same goes for SE experts. ;)
                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

                                                  Comment

                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 40377

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by datatank
                                                    Im out of the loop but im sure if you check the hun, world sex , sleazy and other big ones you will see all the sites that are doing that.

                                                    Do all those bachelor party and euro sex party sites have affiliate programs?
                                                    They look like they are making a killing .
                                                    Euro Sex Parti is Nasty Dollars
                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

                                                    Comment

                                                    • maxjohan
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 7219

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                      Euro Sex Parti is Nasty Dollars
                                                      I belive he talked about cfnm.com

                                                      On another note I read that redclouds.com had 600,000 paid members in an article that was made in 2001.

                                                      The funny thing was that they was complaing about
                                                      bandiwidth costs in that article.

                                                      The most successful guys
                                                      without affiliates, dont you think?

                                                      I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

                                                      Comment

                                                      • psyko514
                                                        See sig. Join Epic Cash.
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 22366

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by maxjohan
                                                        I belive he talked about cfnm.com

                                                        On another note I read that redclouds.com had 600,000 paid members in an article that was made in 2001.

                                                        The funny thing was that they was complaing about
                                                        bandiwidth costs in that article.

                                                        The most successful guys
                                                        without affiliates, dont you think?

                                                        Don't they have a similar setup to Southern Charms?

                                                        Bad Girl Bucks
                                                        - 50% Revshare through CCBill.
                                                        Promote BrandyDDD, Pixie's Pillows, Action Allie and more!

                                                        Phoenix Forum Pics | Webmaster Access Montreal pics
                                                        email: psyko514(a)gmail.com | icq: 214-702-014

                                                        Comment

                                                        • PornBroker
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 686

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by codymc12
                                                          if you can't make it profitable with your own traffic and no affiliates, you probably won't make it as a sponsor.
                                                          I would tend to agree.
                                                          Last edited by PornBroker; 10-28-2004, 02:55 AM.
                                                          please allow me to introduce myself, I'm a man of wealth and taste...I've been around for a long long year stolen many man's soul and faith...I was around when jesus christ had his moment of doubt and pain...made damn sure that pilate washed his hands and sealed his fate...pleased to meet you hope you guess my name...but's what's puzzling you is the nature of my game...

                                                          Comment

                                                          • cafeaulait
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                            • 587

                                                            #79
                                                            www.bubblegirls.com

                                                            Comment

                                                            • maxjohan
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 7219

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by psyko514
                                                              Don't they have a similar setup to Southern Charms?
                                                              they have proadult.com for affiliates.

                                                              You can get free hosting aka redclouds server as an affiliate.

                                                              I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

                                                              Comment

                                                              • bigdog
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2001
                                                                • 6964

                                                                #81
                                                                http://teenpinkvideos.com/

                                                                Comment

                                                                • hentaivip
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                  • 588

                                                                  #82
                                                                  http://www.dpbucks.com Promote : Unseenjapan.com
                                                                  http://www.avbucks.com Promote : AVLovers.com
                                                                  http://www.timcash.com Promote : Schoolgirlsfever.com

                                                                  Trade with me
                                                                  http://www.nichestrade.com/

                                                                  Comment

                                                                  • Manowar
                                                                    jellyfish  
                                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                                    • 71528

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Veterans Day
                                                                    http://www.wifeycash.com
                                                                    didnt know about that.

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • Shoehorn!
                                                                      Die With Your Boots On
                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 22872

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Prolly mentioned already, but Southern Charms.

                                                                      Comment

                                                                      • dirtysouth
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 2613

                                                                        #85
                                                                        bump

                                                                        Great topic.
                                                                        no sig

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • codymc12
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                          • 719

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                          want to buy it?
                                                                          I wish we were in a buying position, but at the moment, we're not. Definately a blast from the past, though.

                                                                          Comment

                                                                          • MsCheyenne
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2005
                                                                            • 412

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Sly
                                                                            How many successful paysites are out there with no affiliates? Just kind of curious. I know a few, but really not many.

                                                                            Wondering how many people can pull it off...
                                                                            FemDom sites with good content are netting an average of 10k with no affiliates. I am pretty sure that is standard with most good femdom sites.

                                                                            Cheyenne

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                              its a bigger number than you think. smart people. usually exclusive content and quality content and no scammy biz practices like pre-checked xsells, no spamming operations - just hard work. and u rarely see any of them on a webmaster board.

                                                                              there is a limit to how big those sites can grow - but 10-15,000 members ain't nuthin to sneeze at!
                                                                              Very true.

                                                                              We are converting well on www.paulmarkhamteens.com with TGP and bought traffic, 2 of our affiliated also do very well. But as I see it unless I spend a fortune enticing affiliates and give away 35%+ of my turn over it's never going to take off. Plus wiith affiliates I will have to spend hours looking after some of them.

                                                                              We got a student working 20 hours a week, submitting by hand and Chameleon and signing up over 30 a week, and growing, with Chameleon and some partner accounts. Low figures but we are newbies at traffic.

                                                                              Now do I take on more guys full time, pay for spots and traffic and concentrate on making the site retain or put in a lot more work with affiliates, which will effect the business?

                                                                              100 joins a day without affiliates, must be the same income as 200 a day with them, they can be expensive to get, keep and maintain.

                                                                              I guess we will go the middle road and have our own traffic sources plus let affiliates join us if they want to and try to convert and retain their traffic.



                                                                              Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                              PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

                                                                              Comment

                                                                              • Paul Markham
                                                                                Too old to care
                                                                                • Jun 2001
                                                                                • 52942

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                                                                                www.wifeysworld.com

                                                                                Yep... and several others.
                                                                                Just took a look at this and it's an excellent site.



                                                                                Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500.
                                                                                PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • Dirty Dane
                                                                                  Sick Fuck
                                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                                  • 9491

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  No one mentioned ALS Scans?

                                                                                  Comment

                                                                                  • Makingcoin
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 8919

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by cafeaulait
                                                                                    They use to be part of triplexcash.

                                                                                    www.MAKINGCOIN.com

                                                                                    icq. 166-662-831
                                                                                    "Start making large coin!"


                                                                                    Daddy I Get Paid To Be A Whore - Coming Soon

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • thewebgarage
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                      • 1002

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      qmov.com
                                                                                      Big Boob trades icq 265907826

                                                                                      Comment

                                                                                      Working...