The irrational fear of terrorism has distorted the actual threat it poses

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  • Ludedude
    Suck it!
    • Jun 2001
    • 4432

    #1

    The irrational fear of terrorism has distorted the actual threat it poses

    A friend of mine wrote:

    "Lately I've been thinking that the billions of dollar and huge political and military apparatus we have created to eliminate the threat of terrorism is almost insanely misplaced.

    Some food for thought from the latest issue of Harper's about the rising cost of fear itself:

    In 2001, terrorists killed 2,978 people in the United States, including the five killed by anthrax. In that same year, heart disease killed 700,142 Americans and cancer 553,768; various accidents claimed 101,537 lives, suicide 30,662, and homicide another 17,330. No one on American soil was killed by terrorists in 2000 and only one in 1999. Even using 2001 as a baseline, the actuarial tables would suggest that our concern about terror mortality to be on the order of our concern about fatal workplace injuries (5,431 deaths) or drowning (3,247). To recognize this is not to dishonor the loss to the families of those killed by terrorists, but neither should their anguish eclipse that of the families of children who died in their infancy that year (27,801). Every death has its horrors.

    Anti-terrorism nevertheless has become the animating principle of nearly every aspect of American public policy. We have launched two major military engagements in its name. It informs how we fund scientific research, whose steel or textiles we buy, who may enter or leave the country, and how we sort our mail. It has shaped the structure of the Justice Department and the fates of 180.000 government employees now in the service of the Department of Homeland Security. Near every presidential speech touches on terrorism, and according to the White House, we can look forward to spending at least $50 billion a year on "homeland defense" for as long into the future as we can see.

    Is all this really necessary? Not many lives will be saved and all the money will not ease the near-hysterical fear of terrorism that has been created.

    Assuming that the $50 billion investment would have saved the lives of the 2,978 people killed by terrorists in 2001, that's a cost of $1,678,979 per life. An recent issue of USA Today had a major article questioning the wisdom of safety improvements to automobiles that would cost far less per life saved.

    I think we have got things totally out of whack. The emphasis on terrorism by our government is, in my view, a very opportunistic and convenient means of distracting attention from far greater threats to our future."

    So, by this measure, have the terrorists won?
  • Doctor Dre
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #2
    Terrorist didn't win . Bush just took the opportunity to take control of the population by keeping them in fair .
    Originally posted by rayadp05
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    • Ludedude
      Suck it!
      • Jun 2001
      • 4432

      #3
      Originally posted by Doctor Dre
      Terrorist didn't win . Bush just took the opportunity to take control of the population by keeping them in fair .
      I don't necessarily disagree with that. It certainly has become a different place and at a very high cost.

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      • theking
        Nice Kitty
        • Sep 2002
        • 21053

        #4
        Originally posted by Ludedude
        A friend of mine wrote:

        "Lately I've been thinking that the billions of dollar and huge political and military apparatus we have created to eliminate the threat of terrorism is almost insanely misplaced.

        Some food for thought from the latest issue of Harper's about the rising cost of fear itself:

        In 2001, terrorists killed 2,978 people in the United States, including the five killed by anthrax. In that same year, heart disease killed 700,142 Americans and cancer 553,768; various accidents claimed 101,537 lives, suicide 30,662, and homicide another 17,330. No one on American soil was killed by terrorists in 2000 and only one in 1999. Even using 2001 as a baseline, the actuarial tables would suggest that our concern about terror mortality to be on the order of our concern about fatal workplace injuries (5,431 deaths) or drowning (3,247). To recognize this is not to dishonor the loss to the families of those killed by terrorists, but neither should their anguish eclipse that of the families of children who died in their infancy that year (27,801). Every death has its horrors.

        Anti-terrorism nevertheless has become the animating principle of nearly every aspect of American public policy. We have launched two major military engagements in its name. It informs how we fund scientific research, whose steel or textiles we buy, who may enter or leave the country, and how we sort our mail. It has shaped the structure of the Justice Department and the fates of 180.000 government employees now in the service of the Department of Homeland Security. Near every presidential speech touches on terrorism, and according to the White House, we can look forward to spending at least $50 billion a year on "homeland defense" for as long into the future as we can see.

        Is all this really necessary? Not many lives will be saved and all the money will not ease the near-hysterical fear of terrorism that has been created.

        Assuming that the $50 billion investment would have saved the lives of the 2,978 people killed by terrorists in 2001, that's a cost of $1,678,979 per life. An recent issue of USA Today had a major article questioning the wisdom of safety improvements to automobiles that would cost far less per life saved.

        I think we have got things totally out of whack. The emphasis on terrorism by our government is, in my view, a very opportunistic and convenient means of distracting attention from far greater threats to our future."

        So, by this measure, have the terrorists won?
        No.
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        • eroswebmaster
          March 1st, 2003
          • Jul 2001
          • 20295

          #5
          Ludedude, Sykkboy and I practiced Civil Disobedience outside the V-Bar last night.

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          • Ludedude
            Suck it!
            • Jun 2001
            • 4432

            #6
            Originally posted by eroswebmaster
            Ludedude, Sykkboy and I practiced Civil Disobedience outside the V-Bar last night.

            LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!!!
            Haha...yeah we did

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            • BRISK
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2003
              • 12240

              #7
              Fear is control
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              I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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              • hova
                Traffillionaire
                • Jan 2002
                • 22430

                #8
                I dont think they have won, because there goal is impossible to achieve. But they have achieved one thinig, and that is fear.
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                • eroswebmaster
                  March 1st, 2003
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 20295

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ludedude


                  Haha...yeah we did
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                  • Rorschach
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 5579

                    #10
                    I remember reading an alleged quote from Osama saying that one of his aims was to force the US govt to put the American people on lockdown... and by that measure he's certainly been successful.

                    But I agree, Bush has taken the whole terrorist thing and run with it to get the people under control.

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                    • Ludedude
                      Suck it!
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 4432

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rorschach
                      I remember reading an alleged quote from Osama saying that one of his aims was to force the US govt to put the American people on lockdown... and by that measure he's certainly been successful.

                      But I agree, Bush has taken the whole terrorist thing and run with it to get the people under control.
                      I don't remember seeing that quote but whether it was said or not, it's certainly one of the goals of terrorists to restrict the freedom of their targets. In that sense they have certainly excelled. We sure as hell didn't used to get our shoes sniffed and asses prodded before getting on a plane

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                      • DrThorsen
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 75

                        #12
                        The net effect has also been a polarization of US allies and a marginalization of the United Nations in US foreign policy.

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                        • Ludedude
                          Suck it!
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 4432

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DrThorsen
                          The net effect has also been a polarization of US allies and a marginalization of the United Nations in US foreign policy.
                          Well, I don't necessarily think the marginalization of the UN is a bad thing but yeah, we've dug a big ass hole as far as relations with some our allies go. However, when they need something from us all will be good again.

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                          • slackologist
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 2379

                            #14
                            yay for fear.. i feel much safer now i'm scared to fucking death of some crazy fucker flying a plane into my house. but thanks for stirring the ants nest with your needle pin dick bushy boy you dimwit slug fucker.

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                            • CamChicks
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 1552

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Ludedude


                              Well, I don't necessarily think the marginalization of the UN is a bad thing but yeah, we've dug a big ass hole as far as relations with some our allies go. However, when they need something from us all will be good again.
                              and what if we need something from them?
                              (see: The Boy Who Cried Wolf)

                              and who here is actually afraid of terrorism?;
                              you're far more likely to be murdered by someone you know.

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                              • Ludedude
                                Suck it!
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 4432

                                #16
                                Originally posted by CamChicks


                                and what if we need something from them?
                                (see: The Boy Who Cried Wolf)

                                and who here is actually afraid of terrorism?;
                                you're far more likely to be murdered by someone you know.
                                If we need something from them we'll just take it ;)

                                The point of the original post was exactly that: You have a better chance of being hit by a city bus than you do of perishing in a terrorist act but yet look at all the time, money and energy that is being wasted on this "war on terror" bs. It's very reminiscent of another government military action. Remember the "war on drugs?"

                                I don't for one minute think that I'm any safer for all the "sky is falling" propaganda spewing from the mouthpieces in charge.
                                Be afraid, consume.

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