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  • NoCarrier
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    • Mar 2002
    • 16356

    #1

    [Breaking News] All the details about the new Yahoo! Inclusion program. Prepare the $

    http://www.content.overture.com/d/USm/ays/sm.jhtml

    This is ridiculous (insane would be more appropriate). I knew that one day or another the "free search engine" would be a thing of the past.. but this!?.

    It's going to be like Inktomi

    You pay to include it in the search, but no guarantee about the ranking.

    Then it's 0,15 cents per click.

    When you initiate your Site Match subscription, a non-refundable annual review fee is charged for setting up your account and for quality review of your pages.

    Once your pages are accepted into the program, a cost-per-click fee is charged for each lead driven to your site.

    URL Submission (non-refundable annual fee, per domain)

    First URL: $49
    Next 2-10 URLs: $29 each
    11th URL and beyond: $10 each

    Cost-Per-Click Fee
    Tier 1 Categories ($0,15):
    Adult
    Automotive
    Books
    Computers & Software
    Dating
    Education & Career
    Jewelry & Watches
    Music & Video
    Office
    Other
    Reference
    Sports & Outdoors
    Toys & Baby Equipment

    Tier 2 Categories ($0,30)::
    Apparel
    Electronics
    Financial Services
    Flowers, Gifts & Registry
    Health, Beauty & Personal Care
    Home & Garden
    Professional Services
    Real Estate
    Telecom & Web Services
    Travel

    ---------------------------------------------

    This is the new Yahoo PFI program explained in detail.

    Just when they had me convinced that the "new" Yahoo PFI was going to somehow be different than the old Inktomi PFI, this proves that Yahoo has not learned anything.

    Look at this quote:

    "Choose Pages for Inclusion: Submit a few pages of content or include your entire site to maximize your exposure."

    Yahoo is admitting here that if you want to get your whole site indexed, you need to PAY to include all that content. In other words, if you submit just a "few pages", those are the only pages that will get indexed.

    This means that, just like Inktomi, they care more about the quick buck than spidering the whole web and refreshing it often to provide the best possible index. The folks at Yahoo know that that it's deceptive to allow paid listing in the "pure" results, but they also know that 80% of people click on the natural listtings... and they just cant resist the temptation to monetize it.

    ... just wait until the FTC knocks on their door with deceptive advertising claims. Perhaps that's the only way they will be forced to change their ways.

    "How much does it cost to use Site Match?
    Site Match subscribers who submit less than 1,000 URLs pay an annual review fee, which breaks down as follows:
    <b>First URL: $49
    URLs 2-10: $29 each
    URLs 11-999: $10 each</b>

    Subscribers <b>then pay a fixed cost-per-click for each customer lead that clicks on their listing</b>. For most content categories, the cost-per-click is $0.15, while select categories are priced at $0.30 per click."
    Adding it it's one thing, you will have to pay per click too. I guess some people can afford it.
    Last edited by NoCarrier; 03-01-2004, 08:26 PM.
  • chowda
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 9527

    #2
    u know, ppl at yahoo have children too

    they have to drink champagne and swim in a pool filled with evian water.

    before u start the hate, put urself in their shoes.

    "how will u be able to send ur slack-off no good son to an ivy leage university if his father/mother cant afford to bribe the university?"
    Someone finds you...
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    • IPK
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      • Sep 2003
      • 4209

      #3
      sweet. pretty soon the internet will be completely useless. i can hardly wait.
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      • Doctor Dre
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2001
        • 51692

        #4
        That is todelly insane . There will be only couple sites indexed that will sell enough to make the money . Yahoo is on his way down BIG TIME now .
        Originally posted by rayadp05
        I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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        • Dildozer
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          • Jul 2002
          • 7519

          #5
          This is ridiculous

          Was happy that google wasn't owning all the searches out there, unfortunately it was just temporary
          Spam link here

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          • IPK
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            • Sep 2003
            • 4209

            #6
            all searches will lead to huge corporations. small businesses are on their way out.
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            • monkeysnap
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              • Sep 2003
              • 604

              #7
              Google.
              I make sex games and you might also know me as 'orange'.

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              • slackologist
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                • Jul 2002
                • 2379

                #8
                Originally posted by IPK
                all searches will lead to huge corporations. small businesses are on their way out.
                which will create a market for smaller search engines that don't 'filter' so much based on $

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                • ibuydomains
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 710

                  #9
                  I'm guessing they will still have the normal yahoo results...
                  but it will be under this 2nd set of paid results (overture results being 1st)

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                  • zzgundamnzz
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                    • Apr 2002
                    • 6102

                    #10
                    Thats why we have Google my friends...


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                    • SoundMan
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 3471

                      #11
                      Those click prices are crazy....dont mind the 49....

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                      • Dildozer
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7519

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ibuydomains
                        I'm guessing they will still have the normal yahoo results...
                        but it will be under this 2nd set of paid results (overture results being 1st)
                        0.15 a click isn't for everyone

                        This is a fuckin joke, i wonder when it's gonna go live
                        Spam link here

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                        • Rorschach
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5579

                          #13
                          Thank God we still have Google.

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                          • pornstar2pac
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                            • Nov 2003
                            • 17380

                            #14
                            sounds like a great deal...sign me up for 100,000 clicks to start.







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                            • IPK
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 4209

                              #15
                              i think that business model sucks. but what do i know, i don't own fucking cashcow of a search engine. but seriously, how viable is that? yeah they'll probably have non-paid listings after all those people who pay.

                              google!
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                              • pornojail
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                                • Sep 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by monkeysnap
                                Google.
                                No sign.
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                                • IPK
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                                  • Sep 2003
                                  • 4209

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                  sounds like a great deal...sign me up for 100,000 clicks to start.







                                  instructions on bank wire coming
                                  pretty soon yahoo will be sending their customers third pop-up CJ foreign CJ traffic
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                                  • BRISK
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 12240

                                    #18
                                    Did Yahoo not learn anything about why Google became the success that it is?

                                    Google became successful because it produced better search results than any other search engine.

                                    The only way to beat Google now is to provide even better (ie: accurate) results. Paid placements are not accurate.

                                    Microsoft is dropping huge $$$ to develop a SE that will be even better than Google. Looks like Yahoo is going to be a distant #3 soon.

                                    Provide better & more accurate search results or die. That's the name of the SE game.
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                                    • pornstar2pac
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                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 17380

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by IPK


                                      pretty soon yahoo will be sending their customers third pop-up CJ foreign CJ traffic






                                      Just what I'm looking for..thanks
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                                      • Rorschach
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 5579

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BRISK

                                        Microsoft is dropping huge $$$ to develop a SE that will be even better than Google. Looks like Yahoo is going to be a distant #3 soon.

                                        Provide better & more accurate search results or die. That's the name of the SE game.
                                        I wouldn't really count on M$ not doing their best to monetize the results too.

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                                        • SetTheWorldonFire
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                                          • Feb 2002
                                          • 7444

                                          #21
                                          too much free search... uh... um... results?
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                                          • sumphatpimp
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                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 5235

                                            #22
                                            hey Yahoo this is for you

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                                            • Doctor Dre
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 51692

                                              #23
                                              Seriously yahooo is on the way down . it's impossible they will get thru that . The listing will all be bullshit . Google got big because of the results ...
                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
                                              I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                              • slapass
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 14625

                                                #24
                                                Yahoo is number one and they are pushing their advantage while they can. Good news is most of us can't pay that price. They will have to feed spidered pages into the results to have results at all.

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                                                • Rorschach
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 5579

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by slapass
                                                  Yahoo is number one and they are pushing their advantage while they can. Good news is most of us can't pay that price. They will have to feed spidered pages into the results to have results at all.
                                                  true dat... unless they turn around and sell it all to nightsurf.

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                                                  • Odin88
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 3267

                                                    #26
                                                    What a joke. I have to say even if someone provided better search results than Google with such a program, I would never switch to surfing with them. One good thing about Google is that they have a loyal surfer base (mainly because they don't shove ads in your face everywhere, etc).

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                                                    • Matt 26z
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                      • 18481

                                                      #27
                                                      Stuff like this shouldn't be unexpected.

                                                      For the longest time Yahoo was basically the world's largest free online content provider that charged for nothing at all, and their bottom line reflected that. They've recently started towards charging for select services in some way, and it is paying off for them.

                                                      I'm surprised the general public at some point in Yahoo's history was never blocked out and the services packaged exclusively along with an ISP plan in a nice program similar to how AOL works.

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                                                      • dav555add
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                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                        • 3427

                                                        #28
                                                        Don't think that Google will not follow suit.
                                                        ...

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                                                        • Roger
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                                                          • Jul 2003
                                                          • 3181

                                                          #29
                                                          15 cents per click? That's just crazy. I have no problem with them charging for inclusion in the search engine, but per click? Now that's way too much.

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                                                          • IPK
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                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 4209

                                                            #30
                                                            i hate searching for basic shit and not finding it. that shit is going to ruin everything. i hope google doesn't follow.
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                                                            • Babagirls
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                                                              • Feb 2001
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                                                              #31
                                                              theres gonna be alot of changes to the net in the next 2 yrs....welcome to one of the first.




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                                                              • Odin88
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                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 3267

                                                                #32
                                                                Another question: What the fuck happens to the rest of the web? Sure for Yahoo the web may be one big cash cow, but for many it is a great resource for information. Who in their right mind would pay $49 inclusion (without this bullshit .15cent per click even) to submit one of their essays located on a freehost to a search engine?

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                                                                • IPK
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                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 4209

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Odin88
                                                                  Another question: What the fuck happens to the rest of the web? Sure for Yahoo the web may be one big cash cow, but for many it is a great resource for information. Who in their right mind would pay $49 inclusion (without this bullshit .15cent per click even) to submit one of their essays located on a freehost to a search engine?
                                                                  yeah you're right. a lot of those sites will never be found. i guess the SE's need to find some way to cash in.

                                                                  we won't even notice those sites are missing. because we can't miss what we don't know exists.
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                                                                  • Mr.Fiction
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                                                                    • Feb 2002
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by dav555add
                                                                    Don't think that Google will not follow suit.
                                                                    I don't think so.
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                                                                    • funkmaster
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                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                      • 7938

                                                                      #35
                                                                      ...don't pay for inclusion, take your money and buy their shares.

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                                                                      • Rochard
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                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 75762

                                                                        #36
                                                                        This will make Yahoo worthless. Greedy fucking college kids.
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                                                                        • BRISK
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 12240

                                                                          #37
                                                                          This is the worst long-term strategy I've ever heard

                                                                          If you want to be a player in the SE game long-term, you NEED to provide the best & most accurate search results.

                                                                          Yahoo will make some quick money from this, but the search results will suck and people will continue to migrate over to Google as they have been because Google provides the best search results.

                                                                          Provide the best & most accurate search results and you will get the unique visitors.

                                                                          Provide shitty results full of paid placements and you will lose unique visitors.
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                                                                          • Nat
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                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 553

                                                                            #38
                                                                            wow, godd news.. not

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                                                                            • Nat
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                              • 553

                                                                              #39
                                                                              wow, god news.. not

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                                                                              • NoCarrier
                                                                                We need more free porn
                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                • 16356

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Babagirls
                                                                                theres gonna be alot of changes to the net in the next 2 yrs....welcome to one of the first.
                                                                                The net changes everyday, it's not like we didn't expect changes, but those changes are insane.

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                                                                                • strobi
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                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                  • 7383

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Time to buy some stock? God damn! That's a money making machine! 15 cents or more for 1 single click on ALL te results! woa!

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                                                                                  • cocky
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                                    • 2044

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I just got an email from Overture. You can sign-up TODAY to be included in their Site Matching.

                                                                                    "Introducing Site Match, Overture's new paid inclusion product. The Site Match program works as a complement to your Pay-for-Performance Search program. It enables your Web pages to be included in the database that powers the standard search results (those appearing in the main body of the page) distributed to over 75 percent* of active Internet users, increasing your coverage and bringing you more customers.

                                                                                    Site Match listings appear in the main body of the search results

                                                                                    The Site Match program offers many unique benefits, including:

                                                                                    A fast and easy submission process

                                                                                    Minimal account management, saving you valuable time

                                                                                    A single point of submission into a database that powers search results for multiple engines and portals, including Yahoo! AltaVista, AlltheWeb and others

                                                                                    Content refreshed every 48 hours, ensuring that your most up-to-date pages are in the database

                                                                                    A quality review process that provides search users with highly relevant results, as well as additional targeted leads to Web sites approved for inclusion in the database

                                                                                    High return on investment (ROI) with a low annual subscription fee and cost-per-click pricing model

                                                                                    A dedicated account representative and convenient XML feed for advertisers submitting 1,000 or more Web pages

                                                                                    By broadening your search marketing program with Site Match, your business will receive maximum exposure on the search results page and more targeted customer leads. To learn more about the Site Match program or to sign up, click on one of the links below."

                                                                                    https://sitematch.overture.com/Overt...Realm&event=en
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                                                                                    • Naughty
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                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                      • 6482

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Sad part is I actually paid Inktomi last week for my inclusion on yahoo, becasue I do not like Overture, yesterday the URL was 404 and my URL was not approved yet, so I thought my money was gone.

                                                                                      Today I see the Inktomi URL changed to an Overturse URL so now I am stuck with them as well. I think Overtuse are ripping people off. Too bad there's no ther companies where we could go.
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                                                                                      • Trax
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                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                        • 14486

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        i dont like that changes either
                                                                                        BUT

                                                                                        you are moronic thinking that google will always run on that business model

                                                                                        give it months
                                                                                        give it a few years

                                                                                        there are going to be changes
                                                                                        lets see how far this will go

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                                                                                        • bhutocracy
                                                                                          Not making A Comeback
                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                          • 10218

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          15c a click minimum for adult keywords? thats higher than what it costs for #1 for "sex" in overture... keyword minimums are bullshit.. the market should decide that shit.

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                                                                                          • hoe_vender
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                                                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                                                            • 2018

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            only use google now
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                                                                                            • rockbear
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                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                              • 806

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I think that a lot of surfer will switch for google now. I mean for the user of yahoo. In about 3-4 month we should see a huge drop if there is a paid spot for them.

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                                                                                              • NoCarrier
                                                                                                We need more free porn
                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                • 16356

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by rockbear
                                                                                                I think that a lot of surfer will switch for google now. I mean for the user of yahoo. In about 3-4 month we should see a huge drop if there is a paid spot for them.
                                                                                                90% of surfers still don't have a fucking clue there are different databases and search engines..

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                                                                                                  #49
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                                                                                                  • Giorgio_Xo
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 4263

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Dildozer


                                                                                                    0.15 a click isn't for everyone

                                                                                                    This is a fuckin joke, i wonder when it's gonna go live
                                                                                                    Agreed. My average is $0.07. Anything above $0.15 isn't worth it.
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