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  • D-Money
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Feb 2002
    • 9716

    #1

    Sig Marketing - The Evolution Of The Web Marketer

    It's just a sign that our industry has evolved into a new type of marketer.

    In the past we had front men. They'd take the glory and do deals behind closed doors and at the conventions. Like a sales rep for a business.

    These days company's realize that sales reps usually get canned after a few months once they tap out of their contact list. Making cold calls was a weakness of the Internet marketer of the past.

    Now that the chat board community grew as did the total number of webmasters fighting to get a bone, paying for chat board reps get better returns then hiring a sales rep. Sites sell themselves if you can get them to click the link. Look at how many webmasters are using boards these days to get their news. News related adult webmaster sites can't keep up with the pace of the chat board breaking the news.

    So hats off to people like Lars and ARS for recognizing a market place that's hot. And big props to Lensman for providing the sig whores and the sponsors another way to do business.

    The nice part for people like Sleazydream is that it's just extra money. Bigger players being endorsed, like an sports star or actor.

    I do believe there are down sides of sig marketing. The paying on number of posts is a little silly, only when the posting sig whore lessens the value of the dialog with fluff. Makes it kind of old and boring.

    Everything considered, it's just the new generation of webmaster marketing. Perception is reality. Most people believe what they read on the boards. So planting the sig whore to inject views and thoughts, stirring up controversy just to sign up more webmasters is here to stay for a while. Get used to it.

    Don't player hate them for it, you made them popular and you created their value.

    Still Ballin'
  • KMR Stitch
    I am cool
    • Jul 2003
    • 14494

    #2

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    • Spunky
      I need a beer
      • Jun 2002
      • 133978

      #3
      It all helps one way or another...branding seems to be the most important factor

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      • TDF
        Triple OG nigga on GFY
        • Mar 2002
        • 27296

        #4
        i sale my brain...and rent my sig
        Sig heil

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        • D-Money
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Feb 2002
          • 9716

          #5
          Originally posted by toodamnfli
          i sale my brain...and rent my sig
          How much for the brain?

          I have 5 blunts, 3 lap dances at a strip joint and 10 drinks.

          Will that do?

          Usually works at the shows.
          Still Ballin'

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          • cayne
            My time is coming...
            • Jan 2004
            • 7475

            #6
            word.
            If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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            • ytcracker
              stc is the greatest
              • Dec 2002
              • 12403

              #7
              no doubt
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              i love you

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              • Xenophage
                Registered User
                • Oct 2001
                • 12122

                #8
                exactly well said, I just signed up under you for xpays see it works !! sig whoring works !!!! I will start sending em traffic when I get back from vacatin on tuesday..

                xpays is one of the few big companies i still dont have a live cam deal with.. I gotta change that

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                • VeriSexy
                  Join The Royal Family
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 25463

                  #9
                  Yup, I have to agree boards are the best place to look for sponsors
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                  • born4porn
                    FUKM ALL!
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 38781

                    #10
                    evolution is inevitable.

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                    • tbabe
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 2494

                      #11
                      great points, never really thought of it that way

                      Still one of the best programs on the net.


                      According to their banner, you can get rich.

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                      • Rictor
                        Old Timer
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 12208

                        #12
                        So the moral of the story is turn off sigs?

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                        • Babagirls
                          Text Writer
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 18812

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rictor
                          So the moral of the story is turn off sigs?
                          i do...boggles the computer down too much.




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                          • Illicit
                            wtf ?
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 11895

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Babagirls


                            i do...boggles the computer down too much.

                            buy a better computer or get a better connection
                            Insert Sig Here

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                            • JFK
                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 67369

                              #15
                              Originally posted by spunky1
                              It all helps one way or another...branding seems to be the most important factor
                              Yes, you hit the nail on the head, BRANDING

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                              • Ash@phpFX
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 4292

                                #16
                                insightful post

                                i was really amazed when i saw how much sleazy's sig went for, it is quite amazing

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                                • Living For Today
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2002
                                  • 3970

                                  #17
                                  nice sig asher.

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                                  • eroswebmaster
                                    March 1st, 2003
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 20295

                                    #18
                                    See TDF's Sig
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                                    Click here for more details

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                                    • Observing
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 809

                                      #19
                                      Well I dont think the moral he is going for is to turn sigs off, more like, this is how we got it here, and it's not really better or worse.

                                      ICQ: 278-457-533

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                                      • polish_aristocrat
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 40377

                                        #20
                                        I agreee with Legandary Lars.
                                        GFY should turn off the option to disable sigs.
                                        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                        • Trax
                                          [----------------------]
                                          • Aug 2001
                                          • 14486

                                          #21
                                          the branding thing has always been like that
                                          sigs make it more obvious, yes.

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                                          • pradaboy
                                            sell me your banners
                                            • Dec 2003
                                            • 12931

                                            #22
                                            well said, it's just bad to see some sponsors don't know how to handle this yet... I think there are being too much mistakes made @sigmarket... oh well, we'll see how this will go further
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                                            • eroswebmaster
                                              March 1st, 2003
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 20295

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              I agreee with Legandary Lars.
                                              GFY should turn off the option to disable sigs.
                                              Yeah if I were the owner of this board shelling out a bunch of cash each month for some sigs...I would want them to be viewed.



                                              SEE TDF'S SIG.
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                                              • Nicky
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 30071

                                                #24
                                                yea, the disabeling of sigs is kinda strange.....

                                                gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                • Danielle
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 1227

                                                  #25
                                                  I use to enjoy looking at sigs and see what everyone promotes. Then all the sig idiots started exploiting sigs that caused all types of problems like add to ignore list, pop tons of consoles, etc....

                                                  That made me turn sigs off.

                                                  Hugs,
                                                  Danielle

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                                                  • pornstar2pac
                                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 17380

                                                    #26
                                                    Does my sig make me look fat?
                                                    Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                    • Danielle
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 1227

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                      Does my sig make me look fat?
                                                      No idea. I can't see it.

                                                      I DO NOT RECCOMEND ANYTHING ADDED TO THE LEFT OF MY POST!!!

                                                      Hugs,
                                                      Danielle
                                                      Last edited by Danielle; 02-29-2004, 03:19 AM.

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                                                      • Xenophage
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 12122

                                                        #28
                                                        we need to disable the ability to turn off sigs

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                                                        • D-Money
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                          • 9716

                                                          #29
                                                          Sigs definitely enhance the board. I'm always curious to see who people are "in bed with".

                                                          I also believe that this board has a few idiots whoring their chatboard billboards around with stupid posts just to get views or clicks. Some don't actually have the views they express. They see it as a way to become the next BradShaw. It worked for Brad and it will work for the next guy. I think this board will continue to tolerate it as long as the overall numbers are going up. Once the numbers go down and people swtich to other boards complaining of these haters using racisit views and words, they'll moderate it better. But until then, it's the wild west, get used to it.

                                                          Personally, I post when I have something to say or respond to. Most people are like me in that respect. I just turned on my reseller sig for XPays and have noticed a bunch of GFY'ers signed up including Lars! Thanks bro, love that you signed under me. Real pimps stay together.

                                                          And for those thinking about signing up under my sig, if you send some traffic, I will take care of you with future Players Balls. I'll keep charging money and they'll be hard to get into. So if you have traffic and can find a way to do biz with me, I always hook up the ones that hook me up back.

                                                          So in this sense, sigs can make a chat community closer.
                                                          Still Ballin'

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                                                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                            best designer on GFY
                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 30307

                                                            #30
                                                            D$ Your reading to much into it dude.

                                                            Its always one big purchase with a bunch of peons wondering why there sig was not bought. In entertainment its called a gimmick.

                                                            Same thing happens in Vegas, always one big Winner and everyone else keeps dropping the coins in. Get it?

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                                                            • D-Money
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                              • 9716

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                              D$ Your reading to much into it dude.

                                                              Its always one big purchase with a bunch of peons wondering why there sig was not bought. In entertainment its called a gimmick.
                                                              I had 2 majors in college, Philosophy and Communications.

                                                              It was Ohio State, so drinking and partying was my 3rd major.
                                                              Still Ballin'

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                                                              • markell
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                • 1190

                                                                #32
                                                                yea, but as you also said.... it lessens the value of posts.. with people just posting anything.. in many cases some morinic shit just to up their post count..
                                                                blah blah fucking blah

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                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 30307

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by D-Money


                                                                  I had 2 majors in college, Philosophy and Communications.

                                                                  It was Ohio State, so drinking and partying was my 3rd major.

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                                                                  • D-Money
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                                    • 9716

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by markell
                                                                    yea, but as you also said.... it lessens the value of posts.. with people just posting anything.. in many cases some morinic shit just to up their post count..
                                                                    Werd.

                                                                    And for some, having too high of a post count gives the impression to "some" of the bigger players that they're so non player.

                                                                    If you're looking to impress the masses on a chat board, it has value and is greatly respected. For some bigger players reading the boards, they think of them as bottom feeders.

                                                                    Even a big player needs a bottom feeder to promote their stuff.
                                                                    Last edited by D-Money; 02-29-2004, 12:52 PM.
                                                                    Still Ballin'

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                                                                    • Tuga
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 7678

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by toodamnfli
                                                                      i sale my brain...and rent my sig
                                                                      I hope someone buys your sig fast.

                                                                      Go Fuck Yourself!
                                                                      ICQ 101411627

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                                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                        best designer on GFY
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 30307

                                                                        #36
                                                                        "Even a big player needs a bottom feeder to promote their stuff"

                                                                        No the bigger players need protection or ya end up getting torn to pieces.

                                                                        People like...

                                                                        You. People like
                                                                        Lee Noga
                                                                        Serge
                                                                        Me
                                                                        KB
                                                                        AMP

                                                                        And the list goes on...
                                                                        Or you end up with dick heads talkin crazy stupid shit about a program without the help of curbing the BS.

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                                                                        • D-Money
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                          • 9716

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                          "Even a big player needs a bottom feeder to promote their stuff"

                                                                          No the bigger players need protection or ya end up getting torn to pieces.

                                                                          People like...

                                                                          You. People like
                                                                          Lee Noga
                                                                          Serge
                                                                          Me
                                                                          KB
                                                                          AMP

                                                                          And the list goes on...
                                                                          Or you end up with dick heads talkin crazy stupid shit about a program without the help of curbing the BS.
                                                                          I'm part bottom feeder.
                                                                          Still Ballin'

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                                                                          • pornstar2pac
                                                                            Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                                            • 17380

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by D-Money


                                                                            Werd.

                                                                            And for some, having too high of a post count gives the impression to "some" of the bigger players that they're so non player.

                                                                            If you're looking to impress the masses on a chat board, it has value and is greatly respected. For some bigger players reading the boards, they think of them as bottom feeders.

                                                                            Even a big player needs a bottom feeder to promote their stuff.

                                                                            go get the domain sigbay.com


                                                                            it's still not registered.




                                                                            I got money for my sig. my new Don Lapree make money at home from being a sig whore comes out this week
                                                                            Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                            • Ironhorse
                                                                              Pixel Pusher
                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                              • 7094

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Sigs? What sigs?
                                                                              [email protected]

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                                                                              • D-Money
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 9716

                                                                                #40
                                                                                And I concur.
                                                                                Still Ballin'

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                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                                  best designer on GFY
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 30307

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by D-Money


                                                                                  I'm part bottom feeder.
                                                                                  Your D$ man
                                                                                  Your history is great

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                                                                                  • eroswebmaster
                                                                                    March 1st, 2003
                                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                                    • 20295

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I will say this tho' D-Money it is at a point where in most cases *not all* you are just not going to get any kind of response unless it's a fucked up post.

                                                                                    What sells on this board?

                                                                                    The same thing that sells on t.v., in the theaters....drama...sex...and violence.

                                                                                    I just wonder when will it start affecting these sponsors adversley to be tied to certain individuals.

                                                                                    Sure drama is good, page views are good but some of this drama I would not want to be associated with even if it's all pretend, and something done in good humor.

                                                                                    Too many people read a thread once leave it never to go back to find out it's all a joke.
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                                                                                    Click here for more details

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                                                                                    • D-Money
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                                      • 9716

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by AlienQ


                                                                                      Your D$ man
                                                                                      Your history is great
                                                                                      LOL

                                                                                      Every good sales/marketing person has a little hustle/bottom feeder in them.
                                                                                      Still Ballin'

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                                                                                      • D-Money
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                                        • 9716

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                                        I will say this tho' D-Money it is at a point where in most cases *not all* you are just not going to get any kind of response unless it's a fucked up post.

                                                                                        What sells on this board?

                                                                                        The same thing that sells on t.v., in the theaters....drama...sex...and violence.

                                                                                        I just wonder when will it start affecting these sponsors adversley to be tied to certain individuals.

                                                                                        Sure drama is good, page views are good but some of this drama I would not want to be associated with even if it's all pretend, and something done in good humor.

                                                                                        Too many people read a thread once leave it never to go back to find out it's all a joke.
                                                                                        I like you.
                                                                                        Still Ballin'

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                                                                                        • TDF
                                                                                          Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                                                          • 27296

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Tuga


                                                                                          I hope someone buys your sig fast.



                                                                                          my sig isnt for sale
                                                                                          Sig heil

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                                                                                          • Meloman
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 1540

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I fully agree with D-Money.

                                                                                            I personally like seeing what people are flying in there sig. It helps you kinda figure out what kind of person the poster is.

                                                                                            If the poster is someone respected like sleazy dream then I'll check out his sig thinking the sponsor must be good if sleazy is endorsing them.

                                                                                            If the sig is just some ARS banner for there impression program then it gives away that the Poster is probably a small time tgp webmaster. I'm not going to take anything this person says all that seriously untill they accomplish something a make a name for themselves.

                                                                                            Overal from the Sponsors point of view sigs do create brand awareness regardless in which sig model they're flown.

                                                                                            Making money is making money period. When the day comes that you need to try out a webcam program, regardless of how "spamed" the board is with Lars sigs and how much it may annoy u... you're still gonna give him a try to see what the fuss is about and because he's the webcam sponsor you've most heard about.

                                                                                            And when most of you decide on trying a new sponsor do you click a sig or banner somewhere or do you "type in" the program name do to it's brand awareness? I think faaaar more people join programs from type-ins rather than webmaster refferal links, even though that's where they first say the program mentioned.

                                                                                            Just my

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                                                                                            • SkyWalker
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 933

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Yes, quit all the crying. Its just a new part of the game.
                                                                                              "You don't know the power of the Dark side!"

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                                                                                              • D-Money
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                • 9716

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Meloman
                                                                                                I fully agree with D-Money.

                                                                                                I personally like seeing what people are flying in there sig. It helps you kinda figure out what kind of person the poster is.

                                                                                                If the poster is someone respected like sleazy dream then I'll check out his sig thinking the sponsor must be good if sleazy is endorsing them.

                                                                                                If the sig is just some ARS banner for there impression program then it gives away that the Poster is probably a small time tgp webmaster. I'm not going to take anything this person says all that seriously untill they accomplish something a make a name for themselves.

                                                                                                Overal from the Sponsors point of view sigs do create brand awareness regardless in which sig model they're flown.

                                                                                                Making money is making money period. When the day comes that you need to try out a webcam program, regardless of how "spamed" the board is with Lars sigs and how much it may annoy u... you're still gonna give him a try to see what the fuss is about and because he's the webcam sponsor you've most heard about.

                                                                                                And when most of you decide on trying a new sponsor do you click a sig or banner somewhere or do you "type in" the program name do to it's brand awareness? I think faaaar more people join programs from type-ins rather than webmaster refferal links, even though that's where they first say the program mentioned.

                                                                                                Just my
                                                                                                The Meloman. Words of wisdom coming from a true player.

                                                                                                How you doin'? Hope all is good.
                                                                                                Still Ballin'

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                                                                                                • D-Money
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                  • 9716

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by LegendaryLars
                                                                                                  exactly well said, I just signed up under you for xpays see it works !! sig whoring works !!!! I will start sending em traffic when I get back from vacatin on tuesday..

                                                                                                  xpays is one of the few big companies i still dont have a live cam deal with.. I gotta change that
                                                                                                  I'm sure Evan would love to speak with you. Thanks again for signing up under my account. 1 Lars = 1000 regular webmasters.

                                                                                                  Cheers
                                                                                                  Still Ballin'

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                                                                                                  • Xenophage
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                                                                    • 12122

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by D-Money


                                                                                                    I'm sure Evan would love to speak with you. Thanks again for signing up under my account. 1 Lars = 1000 regular webmasters.

                                                                                                    Cheers
                                                                                                    thanks man this is a good thread. melo has some good stuff to say , I will get teh traffic flowin on tuesday when I get back

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