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  • xNetworx
    So Fucking What
    • Jan 2004
    • 14445

    #1

    Anybody else confused why Bush still leads in the polls?

    I thought for sure Kerry would be projected to win by now. I guess more than half the country are wealthy and/or religious red necks that only care about abortion laws and gun rights when it comes time to vote. Its sad.
  • jimmyf
    OU812
    • Feb 2001
    • 12651

    #2
    NO


    Bush by 10 points
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    • GiantGnome
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2004
      • 4344

      #3
      nope http://start.earthlink.net/newsartic...kingnews_story
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      • Rich
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2003
        • 11486

        #4
        Not at all, polls always learn right in the US. Gallup counts republicans 8 to 6 because they consider them to be more likely to vote. When they say a poll of "likely voters", that's what they mean. They had Bush up 8 points overall going in to 2000 and he lost the popular vote. They also do not count newly registered voters, which the democrats are signing up in record numbers. Bush has very little chance of winning an honest election, but with the Es and S and Diebold voting machines counting some swing states, who knows what's going to happen.

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        • Rinaldo
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2003
          • 5086

          #5
          it's who they're poling... don't worry too much yet

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          • loverboy
            When it rains, it pours
            • May 2003
            • 20609

            #6
            i wouldn't worry about polls, its kinda deceiving

            we will just see how it goes when we start counting the actual votes

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            • ChandieGirl
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 1421

              #7
              I couldn't agree more. I just saw that in 3 polls, Bush
              is the projected winner. Unbelievable.

              What is worse is that a projected 38% of
              eligible voters will NOT vote in this election.

              Sadly, that is even a 10% increase over the 2000
              elections when Americans decided that Bush was fit
              to run our country. Only 52% of eligible voters made their
              way to the polls that day.


              Why would someone choose to not actively involve
              themselves in a decision as important as a presidential election?
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              • CybermedAndy
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2004
                • 4170

                #8
                Ya I'm quite flabbergasted, actually.

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                • TheJimmy
                  ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 10747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Rich
                  Not at all, polls always learn right in the US. Gallup counts republicans 8 to 6 because they consider them to be more likely to vote....


                  so in other words...you loungin' liberals, put down the pipe and get to the VOTING BOOTH on election day!






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                  • directfiesta
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 30140

                    #10
                    Kerry will still loose

                    I am listening to Bush now, and people are cheering ( his macho remarks) or bouoing ( what he says Kerry said)...

                    Looks like a 9 year's old class reunion...

                    Americans like it simple and easy, and it can't get easier and simplistic than Bush.
                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                    • Centurion
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 6033

                      #11
                      If you think the popular vote polls are confusing..take a look at the latest project electoral vote! Kerry now leads Bush, and states that weren't in play 1 week ago now are..on both sides!

                      http://electoral-vote.com

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                      • Manowar
                        jellyfish  
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 71528

                        #12
                        Go Kerry

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                        • tranza
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                          • Jun 2003
                          • 57559

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Manowar
                          Go Kerry

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                          • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                            • Mar 2003
                            • 30307

                            #14
                            Bush leads 52-44 percent among likely voters in a Gallup Poll taken for CNN and USA Today from Thursday through Saturday, up from 49-46 after the second debate.

                            Bush leads 50-44 among likely voters in a Newsweek Poll conducted Thursday and Friday.

                            Bush leads 50-46 in a tracking poll of likely voters taken Wednesday through Saturday for ABC News, up from 48-48 in the Tuesday-Friday period.

                            Now consider those sources
                            Hello???

                            Shit even Sinclair is amoung that crap excuse for polling sources.

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                            • adjektiv
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 381

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pimpporn
                              I thought for sure Kerry would be projected to win by now. I guess more than half the country are wealthy and/or religious red necks that only care about abortion laws and gun rights when it comes time to vote. Its sad.
                              Please leave the voting up to people who know the difference between its and it's you tard.

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                              • Theo
                                HAL 9000
                                • May 2001
                                • 34515

                                #16
                                funny thing I just received a similar blog post from volokh.com

                                Posted by Jim Lindgren:
                                Who will win--Bush or Kerry? --

                                I have been surprised by the betting consensus at
                                [1]www.Tradesports.com (inconsistent link) and elsewhere that Bush is
                                more likely to win the election. [2]Kaus notes that this belief in a
                                Bush victory, which shows up in opinion polls, might cause people to
                                "go with the winner." I don't understand why both the bettors and the
                                general public believe this.

                                Whether this belief in a Bush victory helps Bush or not, I think it
                                unwarranted. I am aware that there will probably be an unpredictable
                                swing one way or the other that will erase the current situation, such
                                that predictions today are little more than speculations.

                                Nonetheless, as things stand right now, I would guess that Kerry is
                                more likely to win Ohio than Bush (Kerry slightly [3]leads in 3 of the
                                last 4 polls), though within the margin of error. Further, Kerry
                                [4]leads slightly (within the margin of error) in polls in
                                Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, New Hampshire, Maine, and
                                Oregon--and leads probably outside the margin of error in most polls
                                in New Jersey and Michigan. I understand that there may be a very
                                slight [5]move in Bush's favor right now, but I expect that to stop or
                                reverse.

                                First, as in 2000, I expect a last minute swing toward the Democrats.
                                I think that Bush might lose a couple percent in the last two weeks,
                                whether it is from any late surprise (like Bush's DUI in 2000), or the
                                incredible automated phone calling that occurred last time (which
                                because of the messages tended to help the Democrats), or the latest
                                theme of the week (this week, I think that will be tying Bush to the
                                third rail of politics: social security reform). Further, the
                                conventional wisdom is that undecideds tend to break against the
                                incumbent.

                                Second, I expect a massive voter turnout from people who want to stop
                                Bush at all costs. There were hints of this in the primary turnouts.

                                Third, my impression is that the Democrats signed up many more new
                                voters than the Republicans.

                                On the other side (favoring a Bush win) is any Republican last minute
                                surprise. Second is a phenomenon that KerrySpot noted a few days
                                ago--that particularly in [6]2002 election, the opinion polls
                                underestimated Republican vote shares, probably because of a slight
                                realignment since 9/11.

                                The wild card is the action of Al Qaeda. If they step up their attacks
                                in Iraq or pull off a major attack in the US a few days before the
                                election, it is hard to predict what the American public would do.
                                They might turn to Bush because there have been no major attacks in
                                the US in the 3 years since 9/11 (an outcome that I wouldn't have
                                given more than a 5% chance to 3 years ago) and because (rightly or
                                wrongly) Americans trust Bush more than Kerry on the War on Terror. On
                                the other hand, if the attack is in the US and comes from one of the
                                sources that Kerry quite rightly hammered Bush on in the first debate
                                (ship containers or the cargo holds of US planes), then the electorate
                                might turn to Kerry. Further, who knows how emotions can turn people's
                                minds; perhaps a new horror will make people long for a time when
                                terrorism was just a nuisance and see Kerry as the man who shares
                                their view of the world.

                                I don't disagree that the election is too close to call. What I do
                                think is that, if the election were held today, it is slightly more
                                likely that Kerry would win than Bush. But then the election will not
                                be held today.

                                Some bloggers have made their predictions on the outcome, some
                                confident, some highly qualified. Most bloggers that I read have not
                                made predictions.

                                I'm curious about what other bloggers think about the likely winner
                                (and why). At least by the evening before the election, I hope that
                                people will weigh in with their opinions.

                                References

                                1. http://www.tradesports.com/
                                2. http://slate.msn.com/id/2108107/#landslide
                                3. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bus...erry_sbys.html
                                4. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/bus...erry_sbys.html
                                5. http://slate.msn.com/id/2108328/
                                6. http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/...0410140840.asp

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                                • sickkittens
                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 25100

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pimpporn
                                  I thought for sure Kerry would be projected to win by now. I guess more than half the country are wealthy and/or religious red necks that only care about abortion laws and gun rights when it comes time to vote. Its sad.
                                  I think it's hard to change what party people vote for. The big concerns really affect a small percentage of those who vote.

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                                  • StuartD
                                    Sofa King Band
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                    Bush leads 52-44 percent among likely voters in a Gallup Poll taken for CNN and USA Today from Thursday through Saturday, up from 49-46 after the second debate.

                                    Bush leads 50-44 among likely voters in a Newsweek Poll conducted Thursday and Friday.

                                    Bush leads 50-46 in a tracking poll of likely voters taken Wednesday through Saturday for ABC News, up from 48-48 in the Tuesday-Friday period.

                                    Now consider those sources
                                    Hello???

                                    Shit even Sinclair is amoung that crap excuse for polling sources.
                                    Yeah, but CNN still thought that Bush won those debates despite almost 80% of people voting for Kerry as the winner.
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                                    • NoCarrier
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                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 16356

                                      #19
                                      Reuters/Zogby Tracking Poll

                                      Oct 14-16

                                      Bush 45%

                                      Kerry 45%

                                      http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news...nkePI&refer=us

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