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Originally posted by kush
As many of you know, I'm starting a photoshooting company (hopefully shoots start next weekend)... and the majority of the girls are right here at the university I go to, aging typically from 18 - 21.
What I'm wondering is what sorts of prices do we offer these girls for shoots? You figure a typical shoot last ~ 2 hours (if even) and we have drinks and a comfortable setting set up for them.
Consider also that these are your HOT, poor college chicks as well.
So what do you content providers typically pay girls for single, nude shoots?
How about lesbians, with toys, hardcore?
Thanks,
Kush
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a) I pay $50 an hour, whether I'm working here or even in Vegas where the girls often get paid $100 an hour or more. If they bitch, I tell them they can stay home and watch a movie instead, it they like, and when the movie is over, they can say to ghemselves, "This fucking movie just cost me $150!" It's the guy who pays the $100 an hour who is getting screwed.
b) I pay them $50 an hour (stills) no matter what they do. Video is different: I pay $100 per hour, but since a video session is typically 1/2 hour, they get $50. It's the same whether I viddy them brushing their teeth or licking another girl's pussy. How come I pay so little? Because they will work for that. The law of supply in demand. If I can get what I need for $50 an hour, I'd be an idiot to pay $75 or $100, wouldn't I? To most of these girls, money is money, and if they got somebody to pay them $100/hr, $50/hr still sounds better than nothing. I have girls coming back for shoot after shoot even though they regularly get paid half again or even twice as much elsewhere. Of course, part of it is that I take pretty pictures. If your photos look like shit, you might not be so lucky.
c) You are aware, I hope, that a release could conceivably be invalidated if you gave the model drugs or alcohol? Her attorney could argue that she was induced to sign only after you adversely affected her judgment through intoxicants. Also, if she isn't old enough to drink, you are taking another chance. Don't. If you and a model are ever in a dispute in front of a judge, which one of you is going to be the more sympathetic character: the pornographer or the poor little girl he duped through alcohol into signing away her nudie pics?
d) Girl-girl has become very easy to get. I think the guys today have totally forgotten the art of treating females well, so the girls are getting sex from each other. "Guys are too much trouble," as one of them said. Almost every girl I work with will have sex with almost any other girl I pair her up with, no questions asked at my standard rates...the same rates I pay for solo girl stuff. Why? Because they like sex, and as one of the girls said while having her pussy licked by another sexy girl, "I can't believe I'm being paid to do this. I don't know why everybody doesn't do it!"
e) I think the mistake many young, beginning photographers make in this market is to treat the session as something other than business. Don't get me wrong: This field is tons of fun, and I joke around with the models quite a bit...and often the conversation is sexual in nature. However, someone without a keen sense of what's appropriate (under the circumstances, which are anything but normal) can cause himself a lot of trouble. And it goes without saying that it's hands-off the girls. As my attorney told me (and, of course, this is a paraphrase...I didn't have a recorder taped under the table), "If you and a girl seem on the same wavelength and you'd like to pursue a social relationship with her, first of all make sure she has her clothes back on and has been paid. Then, invite her out for a cup of coffee. If that goes well, take her to a movie or a concert. Once you do that, it would be very difficult for her to file a successful sexual harassment complaint. You need to remember that your studio or shooting location is a workplace under the law, and while it's an unusual workplace with some rather obvious differences and arguably some exceptions to the normal standards, it is a workplace nevertheless." One of the curious facts of this business is that, quite often, even if I don't offer the girls a hug as they leave the shoot, they will frequently come up and hug me. It might be my age (about the same as their father's), or it might be my baby face. It might also be that these girls often have not had a father figure. What I'm saying is that, contrary to what you believe, your youth will probably work against you. They are much more likely to trust me at my age than you at yours, and some of the girls have even put it to me in so many words. And I've done a LOT of girls. Just some of them are here:
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