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Old 10-17-2004, 12:33 AM  
xuron
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If anyone has the time they should look into Meme theory. Its a new research into the mechanics of how beliefs spread through society.. Also look into NLP (neuro linguistic programming).

I will try to be simply in the words I use...

Meme theory looks at societys belief systems from a macro view, meaning like if you were playing sim city.

ok now I want you to imagine something...

Imagine that a mother gave birth to a child, and right after the child was born, the baby was taken to a room with no doors, no windows, no colors, no smell, no living things, all inaminate objects.. and was fed by a mechanical arm every day of its life until the age of 18.

How do you think this living thing would live its life?

Do you think it would have any of the same beliefs that we do today? Do you think it would develop some of the same traights as a wild animal?

Now, think to yourself, how do people take in information or data.

We have representational systems such as our eyes, nose, ears, mouth, and skin... All of these things produce electronic like signals to our brain.

Evolutionary psychologists have observed the behaviours of humans and how they evolve along with our environment.

For example, if you were born into a family that lived a world of violence, murder, deceit, and survival.. How would this living thing adapt?

I really could ask you many questions, but all in all it comes down to genes...

humans are *just* advanced biological computers. yep I said it, we are just living machines... all of our thoughts, decisions, wars, movements, everything is a result of binary (or maybe a more advanced number system) of data.

How could as we know it people fight for beliefs they can not prove? How does someone know how to prove something? how does one know what these symbols that we know as words make up meaning? Why do words grouped in a certain order produce fear, hate, anger, laughter, etc...

How does religion propagate? Why would religion need its own followers to recruit new followers? Isn't that what multi level marketing companies do? Why does religious followers have to use faith to convey their message when they could just simply ask their higher god to prove his existence... Why don't religious followers ask themselves why they believe in their religion.

Why do republicans and democrats always fight over whats true?

heh... sometimes I believe (little pun there) that every time someone conveys what they think inside that it transforms into another message, kinda like cryptogrophy... its like the game you played as a kid when you sit in a circle and one person tells the other a sentence and as it goes around it changes into something completly distorted... well thats a pretty good example of what people do... maybe even the bible, can I prove it? of course not, its unprovable, and thats exactly why people are fooled.. even if it was true, never knowing the truth is exactly the same as not ever making your own decisions and being a slave, which is exactly what all human life is...

what if scientists figure out a way to interface our brains with computers, so we can read and write information into our brains synaptic system or whatever system that controls whats stored in our brain... what if we could be born with every single piece of information known to man... would everyone then believe in a god? would there be so much overwhelming evidence to support a believe in a being that shows no evidence of itself... why is this not ludacris and thrown out of our judgement... seems like religion found a human exploit, exploiting our thought system.. pretty simliliar to a computer exploit, like a buffer overrun.. slipping a piece of code into your orginal set of beliefs...

maybe I should write a book about questions to ask yourself...

P.S. yeah yeah, I know, I just thought I would add a long rambling to this thread.. its probably not organized but maybe it will spread and evolve someones beliefs here. ;-)
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