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Have you ever been approached directly by VISA or M/C?

10-15-2004, 01:53 PM

I read statements by reps of different processors stating if you do this or do that VISA will come after you and close you down, prevent you from doing further business.

My question is this: Have you ever been approached by VISA or MasterCard about one of your business practices? If so, what did they accuse you of doing, and what was the end result?
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10-15-2004, 03:07 PM

Yes they both called and thanked me for my business.

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10-15-2004, 03:09 PM

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Yes they both called and thanked me for my business.
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10-15-2004, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by baddog
I read statements by reps of different processors stating if you do this or do that VISA will come after you and close you down, prevent you from doing further business.

My question is this: Have you ever been approached by VISA or MasterCard about one of your business practices? If so, what did they accuse you of doing, and what was the end result?

yeah they can put you on a TMF list (Terminated Merchant File) and you pretty much cant get a merchant account again

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10-15-2004, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yeah they can put you on a TMF list (Terminated Merchant File) and you pretty much cant get a merchant account again

A client of ours was using our domestic merch. solution, but he ended up implementing an offshore account on his cascading system as well, VISA found out somehow and after about 3 months yanked them. He won't be getting a domestic adult account again anytime soon.

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10-15-2004, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by EscortBiz
yeah they can put you on a TMF list (Terminated Merchant File) and you pretty much cant get a merchant account again

I know what they "can' do, the question was, has anyone here had a problem like that, or even close?
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10-15-2004, 06:38 PM

Does working for Visa for 3 years count as being approached by them?

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10-15-2004, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by JakeR
A client of ours was using our domestic merch. solution, but he ended up implementing an offshore account on his cascading system as well, VISA found out somehow and after about 3 months yanked them. He won't be getting a domestic adult account again anytime soon.

Was he using the off-shore as primary or somewhere down the cascade?
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10-15-2004, 06:39 PM

In regards to TMF.

What about opening a new Corporation? Will that get around the VISA TMF?

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10-15-2004, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by psyko514
Does working for Visa for 3 years count as being approached by them?

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10-15-2004, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Steen2
In regards to TMF.

What about opening a new Corporation? Will that get around the VISA TMF?

Nope. If any of the principals of the new corporation are the same as the old corporation, when the acquirer checks the MATCH file, it'll show up as a hit and a check will be done.

The TMF is for Visa and MC, btw. Not just Visa.

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10-15-2004, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by baddog
I read statements by reps of different processors stating if you do this or do that VISA will come after you and close you down, prevent you from doing further business.

My question is this: Have you ever been approached by VISA or MasterCard about one of your business practices? If so, what did they accuse you of doing, and what was the end result?

It's very unlikely that Visa or MC would approach a merchant directly. If you were processing though an IPSP, they'd go through them. If you have your own merchant account, they'll go through your acquirering bank.

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10-15-2004, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by psyko514
It's very unlikely that Visa or MC would approach a merchant directly. If you were processing though an IPSP, they'd go through them. If you have your own merchant account, they'll go through your acquirering bank.

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10-15-2004, 07:07 PM

Doent some of what visa and MC are doing go against antitrust???

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10-15-2004, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by psyko514
Nope. If any of the principals of the new corporation are the same as the old corporation, when the acquirer checks the MATCH file, it'll show up as a hit and a check will be done.

The TMF is for Visa and MC, btw. Not just Visa.

Register a new corp in Deleware/Nevada and hire a director? Isn't that a common service provided?

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10-15-2004, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Steen2
Register a new corp in Deleware/Nevada and hire a director? Isn't that a common service provided?

Again, it's not that easy. Once you're on the TMF, it's nearly impossible to get off.

There are definetly ways to get processing again, but if you so much as cause someone to raise an eyebrow, you'll be in a world of hurt.

And, if you're on the TMF, chances are you're a criminal or at the very least, you have questionable business practices. That's not likely to change by just getting a new merchant account.

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