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  • dolla
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    • Sep 2004
    • 125

    #1

    anyone know anything about cars?

    my car today just stoped starting. it turns over just does not start. any hints?
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  • en1
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    • Jun 2004
    • 858

    #2
    start with looking at your coil....then your cap and rotor....

    20-30 dollar replacement.....
    Last edited by en1; 10-15-2004, 10:13 AM.
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    • beergood
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      • Jun 2003
      • 2918

      #3
      it depends on the car. May not be getting fuel. If there is a carborator and the air filter is totally fucked then that. fuel filter fucked. alot of possibilities. What type of car?
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      • dolla
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        • Sep 2004
        • 125

        #4
        its a ford mustang
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        • sickkittens
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          • Jul 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by dolla
          its a ford mustang


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          • Evil1
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            • Mar 2002
            • 3893

            #6
            timing belt or fuel pump

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            • dolla
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              • Sep 2004
              • 125

              #7
              Originally posted by sickkittens
              whats so funny?
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              • beergood
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                • Jun 2003
                • 2918

                #8
                Originally posted by dolla
                its a ford mustang
                Thats your problem right there. Take a long rag. Soak it in gas. Insert it into the fuel tank. light then run.
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                • MaDalton
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                  • Feb 2004
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by beergood
                  Thats your problem right there. Take a long rag. Soak it in gas. Insert it into the fuel tank. light then run.
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                  • beergood
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 2918

                    #10
                    but seriously with a mustang it could be a variety of issues. (What evil said above) You should have a mechanic look at it.
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                    • Gynecologist
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                      • Sep 2004
                      • 2184

                      #11
                      usually bad starter or just ignition switch

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                      • dolla
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                        • Sep 2004
                        • 125

                        #12
                        Originally posted by beergood
                        but seriously with a mustang it could be a variety of issues. (What evil said above) You should have a mechanic look at it.
                        well i was just seeing first if there was something simple maybe I could check before i called a tow truck
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                        • dolla
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                          • Sep 2004
                          • 125

                          #13
                          how do you check to see if there is a spark?
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                          • twistyneck
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                            • Jan 2002
                            • 4660

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dolla
                            its a ford mustang
                            Found
                            On
                            Road
                            Dead

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                            • Evil1
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                              • Mar 2002
                              • 3893

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gynecologist
                              usually bad starter or just ignition switch
                              he says it turns over and you say starter/switch.. what the fuck?

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                              • PrivateIvy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 4257

                                #16
                                You probably need a new starter.

                                Better take it to a Ford Dealer though, too many possiblities

                                Ivy

                                EDIT: Didn't read that it is rolling over...lol....take it and have it looked at. GFY probably can't fix it :-)))

                                Ivy
                                Last edited by PrivateIvy; 10-15-2004, 10:32 AM.

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                                • Evil1
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                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 3893

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by twistyneck
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                                  Dead
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                                  • the Shemp
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                                    • Nov 2001
                                    • 10891

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by dolla
                                    my car today just stoped starting. it turns over just does not start. any hints?
                                    do you smell gas at all when you turn the engine over?
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                                    • en1
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                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 858

                                      #19
                                      take the wire off the top of the rotor....peel back the rubber hold it close to your engine block....have some one turn the key...you willl see a little spark between that and the engine block...that i will tell you if every thing is ok up will that point...that will rule out the ignition stuff...


                                      you could also use a multi meter if its scary
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                                      • Manowar
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                                        • Dec 2003
                                        • 71528

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by beergood
                                        Thats your problem right there. Take a long rag. Soak it in gas. Insert it into the fuel tank. light then run.

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                                        • the Shemp
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                                          • Nov 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Its probably your fuel pump.
                                          there should be a reset button for the fuel pump in or around the trunk area...
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                                          • dolla
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                                            • Sep 2004
                                            • 125

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by the Shemp
                                            Its probably your fuel pump.
                                            there should be a reset button for the fuel pump in or around the trunk area...
                                            i will look in the book i bought to find this, thanks
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                                            • monro
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                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 787

                                              #23
                                              ENGINE FAULT-TRACING
                                              Serious mechanical trouble is comparatively rare, but minor troubles do unexpectedly crop up, although regular maintenance will go a long way towards preventing them. The accompanying fault-tracing chart illus- trates the systematic procedure which should be followed in diagnosis. Haphazard tests and tinkering are seldom very effective. A good axiom to remember is that an engine which is in sound mechanical order cannot fail to start or run efficiently provided that ?

                                              *

                                              The fuel system is supplying a correct mixture in adequate quantity,
                                              *

                                              The mixture is properly compressed in the cylinders,
                                              *

                                              The ignition system is providing good sparks at the correct intervals,
                                              *

                                              The cooling system is maintaining the engine at the right working temperature, and
                                              *

                                              Adequate lubrication is preventing friction and heat.

                                              By eliminating one or more of the above by tests, the field of inquiry can be gradually narrowed down by reference to the more detailed information in this and other chapters.




                                              Fault Finding Chart
                                              Starter Motor
                                              Fails to crank engine: Battery discharged
                                              Lead disconnected or corroded
                                              Faulty starter switch
                                              Drive dirty
                                              Drive spring broken
                                              Faulty starter motor Cranks engine slowly Battery partly discharged
                                              Terminal loose
                                              Connexions dirty
                                              Wrong grade of oil
                                              Faulty starter motor
                                              Engine Will Not Fire
                                              IGNITION

                                              FUEL SYSTEM
                                              Check Sparking Plugs
                                              No spark at plug gap: Sparking plugs oiled up
                                              Sparking plug porcelain cracked No petrol in carburettor Air leak in petrol line
                                              Blockage in carburettor pipe line
                                              Faulty petrol pump
                                              Petrol tank empty
                                              Check Distributor
                                              No spark at plug leads: Cracked rotor
                                              Loose low-tension leads
                                              Faulty cap
                                              Dirty or worn distributor points
                                              Faulty condenser or connexions
                                              Carbon brush not making contact Petrol in carburettor Mixture control faulty
                                              Carburettor piston sticking
                                              Air leak in induction manifold
                                              Water in petrol
                                              Dirt in carburettor
                                              Check Coil
                                              No spark at coil lead: Coil burnt out
                                              High-tension lead loose or broken
                                              Faulty switch
                                              Points not opening or closing
                                              Sparking Plug Test
                                              Unscrew the plug, reconnect the lead and lay the plug on the cylinder block. Watch for a spark whilst the engine is turned over by hand
                                              Check Battery
                                              No lamps light or are weak Battery run down
                                              Low-tension lead loose or broken



                                              Symptom
                                              Probable Cause
                                              IGNITION FUEL SYSTEM MECHANICAL
                                              Engine misfires High tension leads to sparking plugs shorting.
                                              Incorrect spacing of sparking plug points.
                                              Cracked sparking plug porcelain.
                                              Battery connections loose.
                                              Faulty or damp distributor cap. Water in carburettor.
                                              Petrol line partly choked.
                                              Fuel pump pressure low.
                                              Fuel pump filter chocked.
                                              Needle valve faulty or dirty.
                                              Carburettor piston sticking.
                                              Carburettor piston damper requires oil. Valves sticking.
                                              Valves burnt or broken.
                                              Valve spring broken.
                                              Incorrect valce clearance.
                                              Engine starts and stops Low-tension connection loose.
                                              Faulty switch contact.
                                              Dirty contact points. Petrol line blocked.
                                              Water in petrol.
                                              Needle valve sticking.
                                              Fuel pump faulty.
                                              Carburettor pistons sticking.
                                              Air leaks.
                                              Engine runs on wide throttle only Carburettor piston sticking.
                                              Slow-running adjusting screw incorrectly adjusted. Valve sticking.
                                              Valve burnt or broken.
                                              Valve spring broken.
                                              Engine does not give full power Ignition retarded.
                                              High-tension lead shorting.
                                              Faulty distributor cap. Petrol supply faulty.
                                              Air leaks in induction pipe.
                                              Jet partly blocked.
                                              Carburettor piston sticking. Valve burnt or badly seated.
                                              Incorrect valve clearance.
                                              Engine runs imperfectly Timing incorrect. Carburettor flooding.
                                              Weak mixture.
                                              Petrol feed faulty. Inlet valve not closing.
                                              Engine knocks Timing too far advanced. Excessive carbon deposits.
                                              Loose bearings or pistons.

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                                              • mkx
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 4001

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by the Shemp
                                                Its probably your fuel pump.
                                                there should be a reset button for the fuel pump in or around the trunk area...
                                                Usually the fuel pump. Let me know if you need a new one. I sell Walbro's for $90

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                                                • evanmorgan
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                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 2490

                                                  #25
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                                                  • jade_dragon
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                                                    • May 2004
                                                    • 1737

                                                    #26
                                                    ok here is the basics of the car (very basic)

                                                    you need fuel to get into the engine, you need spark to spark it.

                                                    your problem is either ecu, spark or fuel or a combination of all of them.

                                                    If the check engine light is on or blinking you can pretty much rule out anything such as the fuel pump or fuel filter, these are not regulated like that so if no blinky light for check engine then this is probably not your thing.


                                                    Take each spark plug out of their holes in the engine, this is done with a socket, take them one by one and place them with the plug wire attached to them and lay them across the metal of the valve cover, DO NOT HAVE ANYONE TOUCHING ANYTHING METAL UNDER THE HOOD. Get in the car and try to crank, you should see a spark hop across the gap of the plug. If you got spark on each one then there is nothing wrong with the ignitor/coil/coil packs/rotor/timing belt. If you get no spark from any then you have an issue with the above parts.

                                                    I have only worked on building older mustands and camarro/corvettes or the new ones for race only but all cars from obd0 (pre obd) with FI have a diagnostics port where you place in a metal jumper (paperclip unbent will work) you need to find a basic haynes or chilton for the book and find out where it is and which jumper to connect. The key to the acc location will allow you to "pull" a basic code.

                                                    The check engine light will blink slow a few times or once. This is your first number

                                                    Then it will blingk fast this is your second number.

                                                    So it may flash 2 slow then 6 fast this is 26, you go in the manual and it will tell you what 26 means - o2 sensor failure etc etc.

                                                    It all depends on the obd (on board diagnostics) level of your vehicle, this could be as simple as a map/mas sensor malfunction or a fuel pump death to something a little more like dead coil. You can hit me up on icq if you need more help.


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                                                    oh yeah, on fords look for the fuel pump reset in the trunk area, we get a lot of focuses in with this problem.
                                                    Last edited by jade_dragon; 10-15-2004, 10:57 AM.
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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      • Apr 2001
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dolla
                                                      how do you check to see if there is a spark?
                                                      Do you know where your distributor cap is?

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                                                      • Fred Quimby
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                                                        • Jul 2004
                                                        • 5430

                                                        #28
                                                        Your gas tank is empty

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                                                        • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                          • 11190

                                                          #29
                                                          It's not your starter or it wouldn't be cranking.
                                                          It's either you are out of Gas, it can happen. Make sure you double check that. It can be a fuel pump. Make sure you ingition wire is on the coil.

                                                          What year is the car? If its newer model it can be a computer problem.
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                                                          • dolla
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                                                            • Sep 2004
                                                            • 125

                                                            #30
                                                            yes i know where the distrubutor cap is
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                                                            • dolla
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                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                              • 125

                                                              #31
                                                              ok so I need to check to see if there is a spark, and if there is gas getting there. one guy said how to check for a spark by placing the spark plug on the top of the engine and crank.

                                                              but how do you check to see if fuel is getting there?
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                                                              • BlueQuartz
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                                                                • May 2004
                                                                • 1971

                                                                #32
                                                                unclamp a fuel line (BEFORE the carby or efi)


                                                                wind it over


                                                                and see if its pushing fuel threw the lines



                                                                MAKE SURE THE DIZZY CAP IS BACK ON THO AND THERES NO SPARKS ANYWHERE NEAR FUEL OR FUMES

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                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                  • 11190

                                                                  #33
                                                                  What year Ford is it?
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                                                                  • s9ann0
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                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 4873

                                                                    #34
                                                                    your sposed to put petrol in them I think

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                                                                    • BlueQuartz
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                                                                      • May 2004
                                                                      • 1971

                                                                      #35
                                                                      i think he called a tow truck

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