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Visa vs. Mastercard

10-14-2004, 05:06 PM

In your experience, what percentage of surfers use a MC?

If a site only accepts MC and not Visa, there's obviously a detrimental effect, but to what degree? How many sales can one expect to be losing?

The dillema is that a program i use DOES accept visa, but not via CCBill for which the affiliate recieves credit.

Am i losing out bigtime, or is this a moot point?
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10-14-2004, 05:13 PM

You're losing out big time

Visa will make a site owner jump through all sorts of hoops before they process one single card. Yet, site owners do it. There's a reason for that.

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10-14-2004, 05:16 PM

if i remember correctly it's like 65+% are Visa transactions.
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10-14-2004, 05:23 PM

have to tell you since the ibill problem we have only been accepting mc and checks signups are up actually. more checks then ever before.
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10-14-2004, 05:28 PM

Well, that would account for my 1:4000 conversions
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10-14-2004, 07:07 PM

Any other opinions on this?
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10-14-2004, 07:12 PM

Try using a different program?

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10-14-2004, 07:13 PM

The real question is, how many people would switch to Mastercard if they couldn't use their Visa for adult sites.
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10-14-2004, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by warlock5
The real question is, how many people would switch to Mastercard if they couldn't use their Visa for adult sites.

Interesting point.
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10-14-2004, 07:52 PM

I think I might have to buy stock in mastercard related stuff...

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10-14-2004, 08:24 PM

You know, people say they generate a lot more VISA signups than Mastercard, but this is when they are offering membership via both cards. I think if you just offered MC's, signups will still be pretty good (everyone I know has a Mastercard).
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10-14-2004, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by ...
You know, people say they generate a lot more VISA signups than Mastercard, but this is when they are offering membership via both cards. I think if you just offered MC's, signups will still be pretty good (everyone I know has a Mastercard).

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10-14-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by ...
You know, people say they generate a lot more VISA signups than Mastercard, but this is when they are offering membership via both cards. I think if you just offered MC's, signups will still be pretty good (everyone I know has a Mastercard).

O.k. so getting back to the original question:

As an affiliate who can only gain a commision from visa users, how many sales can I expect to be losing?
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10-14-2004, 08:43 PM

anyone thinking about cutting out visa will have more success flipping burgers than being a webmaster.

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10-14-2004, 10:17 PM

I just ran the stats for the last few month. We have twice as many Visa transactions as MasterCard.

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10-14-2004, 10:27 PM

Originally posted by tony404
have to tell you since the ibill problem we have only been accepting mc and checks signups are up actually. more checks then ever before.

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10-14-2004, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by baddog
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10-14-2004, 10:32 PM

Originally posted by daveylapoo
O.k. so getting back to the original question:

As an affiliate who can only gain a commision from visa users, how many sales can I expect to be losing?

If the site you're promoting takes both Visa and Mastercard, but only pays you for Mastercard signups, you're losing a lot.

If the site only accepts Visa or MC, Visa sales will typically be twice as high as MC sales. So 67% of sales are Visa, 33% are MC. So chances are, you're losing around 67% of your potential income.

In short, if the program isn't paying you for Visa signups, stop sending them traffic. You're giving them free sales.

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10-14-2004, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by psyko514
If the site you're promoting takes both Visa and Mastercard, but only pays you for Mastercard signups, you're losing a lot.

If the site only accepts Visa or MC, Visa sales will typically be twice as high as MC sales. So 67% of sales are Visa, 33% are MC. So chances are, you're losing around 67% of your potential income.

In short, if the program isn't paying you for Visa signups, stop sending them traffic. You're giving them free sales.

Thank you. That's what i figured. I think the sponsor did at one time, and then stopped for some reason. It's roughly around this time the whole 1:4000 thing started happening.
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10-15-2004, 12:05 AM

I used to work at a restaurant. When they switched over owners, the new owners had to get their own Visa and Mastercard. For the longest time, at least a month, we didn't have Visa and only Mastercard. Turns out, that's what a lot of people had, and not much else, if anything else. We had some very upset customers and sometimes we even had to pay their bill. Visa wins.

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10-15-2004, 12:11 AM

This is a very informative thread, thanks for all the replys. Surely this program owner is aware that his affiliates are getting screwed out of damn near 3/4 of their sales.

Nice guy, and a cool site to promote. Too bad.
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10-15-2004, 12:14 AM

Gonna let us all know who it is?

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10-15-2004, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by psyko514
Gonna let us all know who it is?

Not on the boards, no. If you reeeeally need to know hit me at dave at dailyfunk.com

It's a very small ccbill sponsor, and I happen to like the guy and the site. I just don't think I can continue to send him traffic.
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10-15-2004, 12:23 AM

Most people USE VISA not MC. So the chances of this being a big problem are quite small.
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10-15-2004, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by reynold
Most people USE VISA not MC. So the chances of this being a big problem are quite small.

That's just it. They sign up with visa, and the webmaster gets 100% of the sale.
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