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  • Winterverse
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 278

    #1

    How the fuck can you afford $35 payouts?

    I'm not new to the industry, but taking the next step and moving towards sponsering.. for you veterans out there someone give me a clue how can you afford to pay out more than you're making? Most sites charge the surfer $29.95, am I right? I know you can turn those customers into additional customers across other sites but I figure unless you either

    a) get 100% of those customers to rebill for the next 3 months so you can make a half decent return AND pay your affiliates

    b) get at least 100% of those customers to signup to other sites through your newly collected mailing list

    c) shave

    Someone school me here with some knowledge, fuck the 'secrets' I just want at least a vague understanding of how this is remotely possible..

    If I paid $20 signup and reoccuring would anyone even bother promoting long as the conversions were under 1:400?
  • PMdave
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 1517

    #2
    I think you left out crossales...

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    • broke
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 4501

      #3
      and upsells.
      Perfect Gonzo

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      • kios
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 544

        #4
        upsells, crossells, emaillists, recurring, and for some sponsors shaving. Thats how.
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        • Trax
          [----------------------]
          • Aug 2001
          • 14486

          #5
          Originally posted by Winterverse

          If I paid $20 signup and reoccuring would anyone even bother promoting long as the conversions were under 1:400?
          well
          what counts is the money made

          when i sent 100k clicks to a $35 program and make X dollars
          and i can send 100k click to a $20 program which converts better and makes me $X*2

          why should i want to promote a 35 buck program

          you know what i mean

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          • gornyhuy
            Chafed.
            • May 2002
            • 18041

            #6
            There are a hell of a lot of quality sites out there that pay 50-65% recurring and focus on keeping the members happy and recurring rather than focusing on upselling the shit out them.

            In my (limited) experience you wind up getting $35-$40 per member this way, so throw in _some_ upsells/cross sells and probably some shaving and you have a nice little piece of business.

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            • MadCap
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2002
              • 2357

              #7
              you cant look at the biggest out there.



              All those models will change soon

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              • Basic_man
                Programming King Pin
                • Oct 2003
                • 27360

                #8
                Originally posted by kios
                upsells, crossells, emaillists, recurring, and for some sponsors shaving. Thats how.
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                • Winterverse
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 278

                  #9
                  What are cross sales exactly? I can handle the upsells

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                  • Cash
                    Click on my TCG signature
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 20825

                    #10
                    Those paying $35 charge $40/month ... so, cross sales, upsells, dialers, online checks, mailing lists/newsletters, recurring ...
                    Many people who just start paying affiliates prefer partnership ...
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                    • chowda
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9527

                      #11


                      or

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                      • stocktrader23
                        Let's do some business.
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 18781

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Trax


                        well
                        what counts is the money made

                        when i sent 100k clicks to a $35 program and make X dollars
                        and i can send 100k click to a $20 program which converts better and makes me $X*2

                        why should i want to promote a 35 buck program
                        Cause Stone Cold says so!


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                        • Reak
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 17920

                          #13
                          You forgot the Rebills & Upsells :2cents

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                          • broke
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 4501

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Winterverse
                            What are cross sales exactly? I can handle the upsells
                            Cross sales:




                            For the record: I checked those... they were not pre-checked.
                            Perfect Gonzo

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                            • Trax
                              [----------------------]
                              • Aug 2001
                              • 14486

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stocktrader23


                              Cause Stone Cold says so!

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                              • Winterverse
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 278

                                #16
                                Fucking kick ass thanks for the info

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                                • Mike-BP
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 1270

                                  #17
                                  cross sells, upsells and mailing (spamming?)
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                                  • spamofon
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 2999

                                    #18

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                                    • beemk
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                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 20829

                                      #19
                                      not all sponsors shave, but i bet most of them do.
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                                      • IPK
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 4209

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by spamofon
                                        lol yeah, it's going to get harder and harder for sponsors to pay out $35, they're going to have to resort to other things. they may just shave instead of lowering payouts.
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                                        • sixxxth_sense
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 2430

                                          #21
                                          yup, shaving!

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