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  • Mr. Marks
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    • Jun 2001
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    #1

    The Most Convincing Case for BLACK REPARATIONS

    There's tons of moral arguments re why black americans should be given reparations for slavery. And there's tons of arguments against it as well.

    What finally tipped the balance for me is the BIOLOGICAL argument. It's widely documented that the average black IQ is lower than whites. Much of the explanation for this has been sociological (worse schools, security issues, black children who excel being labelled as "acting white", etc). Perhaps the reason is a statistical skewing of the black genetic pool towards physical traits (big bones, athleticism, etc) rather than intellectual traits.

    This is caused by the FUCKED UP antebellum American practice of SLAVE BREEDING: http://www.africana.com/research/bla...30210breed.asp

    http://members.aol.com/capzpsyche/crisis7.htm

    These plantation owners would pick their big "buck" slaves to breed with equally big black women so as to produce "ideal" slave workers. Imagine the effect this widespread practice had on the African-American gene pool.

    I used to think reparations was an empty gesture. But after reading up on slavebreeding and the assault on black families, I have become rather convinced that this is the right way to go.
  • IPK
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    #2
    too long, shorter version available?
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    • IPK
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      #3
      okay i took the time to read part of it, that's pretty interesting
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      • Mr. Marks
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        #4
        Originally posted by IPK
        too long, shorter version available?
        For the patience challenged:

        Slavery Bad because it fucked up blacks' genetic diversity.

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        • smack
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          #5
          i will take responsibility only for what i have done. not the color of my skin. it's a ridiculous notion that people who have absolutely nothing to do with it should profit from it. every race has been persecuted over the course of history. not that i am belittling the suffering of african americans, but come on man, that was a long time ago and it sucks, but it's nothing to do with me.
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          • Mr. Marks
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            #6
            But the assault on black families that arose with slavery has always persisted in the African-American community. Men were conditioned not to stick around hence the 70% illegitimacy rate in the black community. This results in a culture of violence and deprivation.... and traces back to slavery.

            Reparations may be an empty gesture and worthless quest if its impact has disappeared. Unfortunately, its impact is all very real.




            Originally posted by smack
            i will take responsibility only for what i have done. not the color of my skin. it's a ridiculous notion that people who have absolutely nothing to do with it should profit from it. every race has been persecuted over the course of history. not that i am belittling the suffering of african americans, but come on man, that was a long time ago and it sucks, but it's nothing to do with me.

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            • Mr. Marks
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              #7
              The impact also results in higher crime rates.

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              • CamChicks
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                #8
                Originally posted by papichulo


                These plantation owners would pick their big "buck" slaves to breed with equally big black women so as to produce "ideal" slave workers. Imagine the effect this widespread practice had on the African-American gene pool.

                very little.

                Humanity has been evolving for millions of years.
                A few generations is not enough time to have significant impact.

                And what about the european genes that have breed with that african slave gene line? The white masters, and then interracial couples. Very few african-americans look like african-africans now.

                Fact is, it's very possible (and common) for a 'black' person and a 'white' person to be more genetically similar to eachother than two 'blacks', or two 'whites'. Judging the total genetics of a person by their skin color is as arbitrary as judging the total genetics of a person by their height.

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                • IPK
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by CamChicks


                  very little.

                  Humanity has been evolving for millions of years.
                  A few generations is not enough time to have significant impact.

                  And what about the european genes that have breed with that african slave gene line? The white masters, and then interracial couples. Very few african-americans look like african-africans now.

                  Fact is, it's very possible (and common) for a 'black' person and a 'white' person to be more genetically similar to eachother than two 'blacks', or two 'whites'. Judging the total genetics of a person by their skin color is as arbitrary as judging the total genetics of a person by their height.
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                  • Matt_WildCash
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                    • Jan 2003
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                    #10
                    Yeah and if thats true then all the other African countries would be well balanced cultures that are rich and properous. Hrmm thats not quite what has happend in black controled countries.

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                    • shermo

                      #11
                      I didn't do it. If you want cash back, talk to my Great great great great great grandfather about it. I personally have no problem with anybody due to their skin color.

                      Also, I'd like reparations for the way the assholes treated my Irish forefathers when they stepped off the boat.

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                      • twistyneck
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                        • Jan 2002
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                        #12
                        I'm convinced. Where do I send a check? I feel very, very guilty now.

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                        • chodadog
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                          #13
                          What a bunch of bollocks. The people that eat this shit up deserve a kick in the face.
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                          • Veterans Day
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by chodadog
                            What a bunch of bollocks. The people that eat this shit up deserve a kick in the face.
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                            • Illicit
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                              • Dec 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CamChicks


                              very little.

                              Humanity has been evolving for millions of years.
                              A few generations is not enough time to have significant impact.

                              And what about the european genes that have breed with that african slave gene line? The white masters, and then interracial couples. Very few african-americans look like african-africans now.

                              Fact is, it's very possible (and common) for a 'black' person and a 'white' person to be more genetically similar to eachother than two 'blacks', or two 'whites'. Judging the total genetics of a person by their skin color is as arbitrary as judging the total genetics of a person by their height.
                              I agree 100000%. I highly doubt there are many pure blooded african american people around. People that could trace their blood line all the way back to africa without any white or european people tainting it. Even then, a couple of generations isnt going to do it. Why dont people realize they will NEVER see any money for this, stop bothering and go make your own money.
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                              • Mr. Marks
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                                #16
                                It sure has affected the black family tremendously.

                                Also, after the importation of slaves was banned in 1820, the population of slaves in the US actually INCREASED instead of dropping precipituously like in the West Indies. This is due to wide scale breeding.

                                Slave owners did not select for smart slaves. They selected for big physiques.

                                You can be as PC as you wish, but the reality is that this has left a giant imprint on the African-American community.


                                Originally posted by CamChicks


                                very little.

                                Humanity has been evolving for millions of years.
                                A few generations is not enough time to have significant impact.

                                And what about the european genes that have breed with that african slave gene line? The white masters, and then interracial couples. Very few african-americans look like african-africans now.

                                Fact is, it's very possible (and common) for a 'black' person and a 'white' person to be more genetically similar to eachother than two 'blacks', or two 'whites'. Judging the total genetics of a person by their skin color is as arbitrary as judging the total genetics of a person by their height.

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                                • shermo

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by papichulo
                                  It sure has affected the black family tremendously.

                                  Also, after the importation of slaves was banned in 1820, the population of slaves in the US actually INCREASED instead of dropping precipituously like in the West Indies. This is due to wide scale breeding.

                                  Slave owners did not select for smart slaves. They selected for big physiques.

                                  You can be as PC as you wish, but the reality is that this has left a giant imprint on the African-American community.


                                  This is a webmaster board. Go hit up the KKK and other hate groups for the cash. They're the only ones still linked to these beliefs of racial degradation.

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                                  • Illicit
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                                    • Dec 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by papichulo
                                    It sure has affected the black family tremendously.

                                    Also, after the importation of slaves was banned in 1820, the population of slaves in the US actually INCREASED instead of dropping precipituously like in the West Indies. This is due to wide scale breeding.

                                    Slave owners did not select for smart slaves. They selected for big physiques.

                                    You can be as PC as you wish, but the reality is that this has left a giant imprint on the African-American community.



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                                    • chodadog
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by papichulo
                                      It sure has affected the black family tremendously.

                                      .... has left a giant imprint on the African-American community.
                                      Besides your uneducated (in the field of genetics, at the very least) opinion, what evidence do you have to support this? Let's see some qualified opinions and/or facts on this matter, and perhaps we'll stop making fun of you.

                                      What you've shown us doesn't even cut the proverbial mustard enough to be considered a theory, let alone be a convincing case for black reperations.
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                                      • jeffs
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                                        #20
                                        Slavery was wrong, but I'm sure that most of today's blacks in America have a better life than they would contracting aids and having their heads macheted off in Africa.

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                                        • HeadPimp
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                                          #21
                                          What a fucking crock! If they want reparations, they can get it from their 'brothers' in Africa that rounded them up and sold them to the white slave traders.

                                          Oh wait... Why won't they do that? 'Cause there is no money in suing African nations...

                                          Don't get me started....

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                                          • Matt 26z
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                                            #22
                                            Two reasons why they'll never be paid out...

                                            1. Germany was able to pay out reparations to holocaust victims because of detailed records. It would be very hard to prove a black American had a slave ancestor, if not impossible.

                                            2. Paying out money to blacks just because they are black would incite the largest racial war this country has seen in the last century. It would take blacks decades to recover from this, and anything gained from reparations would be quickly lost.

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                                            • hoe_vender
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                                              #23
                                              to muc to read shorten it up a bit college boy
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                                              • Mr. Marks
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                                                #24
                                                So instead of attacking the logic and facts of the argument, you attack the speaker?

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                                                • sperbonzo
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                                                  • May 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by HeadPimp
                                                  What a fucking crock! If they want reparations, they can get it from their 'brothers' in Africa that rounded them up and sold them to the white slave traders.

                                                  Oh wait... Why won't they do that? 'Cause there is no money in suing African nations...

                                                  Don't get me started....

                                                  Ah HA!

                                                  Someone who remembers how the slaves were gathered up in the first place.

                                                  hmmmmmm........

                                                  Actually slaves were taken, bought and sold in Africa all the time, the only difference here is that the American slaves were sold to whites to be exported, as apposed to the vast majority of african slaves....that were sold to other african and middle eastern tribes and kingdoms.
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                                                  • liquidmoe
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                                                    #26
                                                    Here is a logical cross examination. Lets say that I agree that black slaves were bred as is suggested in this article, how does this relate to intelligence? Are you telling me that intelligence is strictly hereditary, that my intelligence or lack there of is purely due to the my parents, and not at all a product of my environment where learning was encouraged?

                                                    The only validity to these claims is the possibility that members of the same family could have bred and recent studies have shown that in-breeding, although capable of causing birth defects, in fact occurs rarely.

                                                    The real reason behind the socio-economic imbalance between African Americans and Caucasians isn't because of breeding, but because of the environment. If you place whites into a ghetto, take away good education, take away caring parents, take away nurturing of the mind, believe me they will be in the same exact boat.

                                                    It has nothing to do with slavery, but more to do with the environment. Now if you want to start discussing projects, ghettos, social security, and so forth, we can have an actual argument, the rest is just ludicrous.

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                                                    • fuelcell
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                                                      #27
                                                      lmfao! that's great....didn't even bother to read the article. Just love your summary. What a great angle! I'm this sensitive liberal simply making the case for reparations for those stupid, genetically challenged black folk. Oh, help. I'm dying over here. Are you sure you're not a closet racist? That's some funny shit.
                                                      Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                                      • C-Bass
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                                                        #28
                                                        i aint touching this one with a 10 foot pole
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                                                        • fuelcell
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by liquidmoe
                                                          The real reason behind the socio-economic imbalance between African Americans and Caucasians isn't because of breeding, but because of the environment. If you place whites into a ghetto, take away good education, take away caring parents, take away nurturing of the mind, believe me they will be in the same exact boat.
                                                          Happens all the time with whites. Check out your average Walmart employee or customer. White trash=ghetto; little or no difference.
                                                          Beat it. Nothing to see here.

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                                                          • Mr. Marks
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                                                            #30
                                                            And bred, to a large degree, after 1820 by Southern slavebreeding plantations.

                                                            Originally posted by sperbonzo



                                                            Ah HA!

                                                            Someone who remembers how the slaves were gathered up in the first place.

                                                            hmmmmmm........

                                                            Actually slaves were taken, bought and sold in Africa all the time, the only difference here is that the American slaves were sold to whites to be exported, as apposed to the vast majority of african slaves....that were sold to other african and middle eastern tribes and kingdoms.

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                                                            • sperbonzo
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Spotter_03
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                                                              • Mr. Marks
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                                                                #32
                                                                It is well documented in The Bell Curve by Herrstein and Murray and other books of the IQ lag between blacks and whites.

                                                                Nobody is disputing that the only dispute is the cause.

                                                                I agree that there are many sociological causes but slavebreeding also impacted it as well.


                                                                Originally posted by fuelcell
                                                                lmfao! that's great....didn't even bother to read the article. Just love your summary. What a great angle! I'm this sensitive liberal simply making the case for reparations for those stupid, genetically challenged black folk. Oh, help. I'm dying over here. Are you sure you're not a closet racist? That's some funny shit.

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                                                                • Mr. Jim
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  The notion of this is so ridiculous I refuse to give an articulated response as to "why" this is what is wrong withthe world

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                                                                  • <IMX>
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    lol

                                                                    Originally posted by fuelcell
                                                                    lmfao! that's great....didn't even bother to read the article. Just love your summary. What a great angle! I'm this sensitive liberal simply making the case for reparations for those stupid, genetically challenged black folk. Oh, help. I'm dying over here. Are you sure you're not a closet racist? That's some funny shit.
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                                                                    • slavdogg
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Egypt owes me money for enslaving my people 3000+ years ago.
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                                                                      • fuelcell
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by jimholio
                                                                        The notion of this is so ridiculous I refuse to give an articulated response as to "why" this is what is wrong withthe world
                                                                        It's killing me This guy is hilarious.
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                                                                        • On-top
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by papichulo

                                                                          Slave owners did not select for smart slaves. They selected for big physiques.

                                                                          You can be as PC as you wish, but the reality is that this has left a giant imprint on the African-American community.


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                                                                          • Alex Xe

                                                                            #38
                                                                            slaves...

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                                                                            • Mr. Marks
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              There's a reason why there's so much out of wedlock births in the black community or why a larger proportion of black children are developmentally challenged.

                                                                              I am not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination but I'm willing to see the reality behind the problem rather than be PC about it.

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                                                                              • Basic_man
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by IPK
                                                                                okay i took the time to read part of it, that's pretty interesting
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                                                                                • Crazy_Canuck
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Black reparations was probably thought up by a lawyer.

                                                                                  The law firm will take 30 or 40 % of what, maybe billions.

                                                                                  It'll never happen whether it should or not.
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                                                                                  • crockett
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by papichulo
                                                                                    There's tons of moral arguments re why black americans should be given reparations for slavery. And there's tons of arguments against it as well.

                                                                                    What finally tipped the balance for me is the BIOLOGICAL argument. It's widely documented that the average black IQ is lower than whites. Much of the explanation for this has been sociological (worse schools, security issues, black children who excel being labelled as "acting white", etc). Perhaps the reason is a statistical skewing of the black genetic pool towards physical traits (big bones, athleticism, etc) rather than intellectual traits.

                                                                                    This is caused by the FUCKED UP antebellum American practice of SLAVE BREEDING: http://www.africana.com/research/bla...30210breed.asp

                                                                                    http://members.aol.com/capzpsyche/crisis7.htm

                                                                                    These plantation owners would pick their big "buck" slaves to breed with equally big black women so as to produce "ideal" slave workers. Imagine the effect this widespread practice had on the African-American gene pool.

                                                                                    I used to think reparations was an empty gesture. But after reading up on slavebreeding and the assault on black families, I have become rather convinced that this is the right way to go.
                                                                                    I hate to get off on racial shit, as I think everyone should be treated equal. But If this was even close to true... then why is Africa not booming with great minds instead of people with AK47's shooting each other? I think there are plenty of smart Black people out there, some use their brains and make something with their life and some complain about the man bringing them down.

                                                                                    Why is it white people don't have anyone they can blame when they wanna be lazy, steal and do drugs?

                                                                                    btw since we're on reparations subject.. where is my money from England for killing my ancestors during their freedom fight for America?
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                                                                                    • IPK
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Crazy_Canuck
                                                                                      Black reparations was probably thought up by a lawyer.

                                                                                      The law firm will take 30 or 40 % of what, maybe billions.

                                                                                      It'll never happen whether it should or not.
                                                                                      yeah lawyers rule, they do take such a big chunk, but whatever
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                                                                                      • Bansheelinks
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Won't ever happen. Moot point.

                                                                                        Stupid fucking thread.

                                                                                        Lets continue to wallow in the past and whine, bitch and moan.

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                                                                                        • IPK
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Bansheelinks
                                                                                          Won't ever happen. Moot point.

                                                                                          Stupid fucking thread.

                                                                                          Lets continue to wallow in the past and whine, bitch and moan.
                                                                                          yeah i wonder if anyone really believes it'll ever happen, why would the government ever want to pay out that much money, they wouldn't, bottom line
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                                                                                          • fuzebox
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I refuse to believe there are people in real life who actually think black reparations should happen, and are a good thing...

                                                                                            The whole idea is so ridiculous.

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                                                                                            • beemk
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              someone post the black reparation chappelle skit
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                                                                                              • mhende6600
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I think every American black, white or what ever should get $100k at birth.
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                                                                                                • Bansheelinks
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Based on this type of logic, why end there? The Australian Aboriginees, the FIRST ppl in N. America that we know of so far due to fossil evidence, should demand a cut of all native casinos.

                                                                                                  Why?

                                                                                                  Who do you think practiced genocide on them in the competition back then for territory? Native Americans. It was Native Americans who successfully wiped them out due to superior hunting and warfare technology.

                                                                                                  The whole thing is ridiculous, all this reparations talk.

                                                                                                  I think this thread starter was ACTUALLY taking a poke at the African American intellect, or perceived lack thereof, when you carefully consider what was said.


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                                                                                                  • evildick

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    You sir, need some Reparation H.

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