I'll volunteer for that 
I'll come right over if you are in the San Francisco bay area. 
I'll come right over if you are in the San Francisco bay area.
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That's Donovan's lingerie... he wears it out on the town too much and it has gotten frayed.Originally posted by TheNewKid
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As harsh as that may sound, he's right. Give her 200 bucks to have her hair and makeup done and get some padded push up bras, then your talking..Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
Did someone say she was hot? Are you serious? This girl is bargin basement content if I ever seen it. She's not the least bit attractive and could not look sexy if her life depended on it. Also, what the hell is up with you taking close-ups of her face? For god sakes man, show some respect.
Sorry folks, but this girl in not some"thing" I would pay a dime for. Damn, some of you webmasters are really needy. This girl is frumpy
Make an average hoe a hot girl, come on now! I can see the potential!
I hope everything works out tho!Comment
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I'll betcha $10,000 a month that you are wrong.Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
Did someone say she was hot? Are you serious? This girl is bargin basement content if I ever seen it. She's not the least bit attractive and could not look sexy if her life depended on it. Also, what the hell is up with you taking close-ups of her face? For god sakes man, show some respect.
Sorry folks, but this girl in not some"thing" I would pay a dime for. Damn, some of you webmasters are really needy. This girl is frumpy
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I will not take this bet. I know better and its why I asked her rates.Originally posted by POV Porn guy
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Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
Did someone say she was hot? Are you serious? This girl is bargin basement content if I ever seen it. She's not the least bit attractive and could not look sexy if her life depended on it. Also, what the hell is up with you taking close-ups of her face? For god sakes man, show some respect.
Sorry folks, but this girl in not some"thing" I would pay a dime for. Damn, some of you webmasters are really needy. This girl is frumpy
Some adult webmasters are SO out of touch with what sells online. While SOME surfers want the perfect Penthouse Pet, most want to see the girl next door. The girl they see walking down the street.
What good is it to fantasize about a model that is artificial? I have Chantelle Fontain's (Penthouse Pet of the Month - Sept 2003) test shoot photos. She looks NOTHING like she does in the magazine. But guess which photos my members prefer? If you guessed "her amateur, non-made-up pics" you WIN.
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Originally posted by mackey
As harsh as that may sound, he's right. Give her 200 bucks to have her hair and makeup done and get some padded push up bras, then your talking..
Make an average hoe a hot girl, come on now! I can see the potential!
I hope everything works out tho!
Patrick, I'd like to buy a clue please.Comment
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Yeah, I may have been harsh, but i don't think I am off base here. Also, the last thing I would be doing if I sold content is post pics of a girl that has no clue about make up and looks very un-kept. She looks like she needs a bath and a makeover. A tan would be nice for just a bit of color. She's all pasty so she looks ill. She's fresh out of the trailer based on those pictures and it looks like the water was shut off before she left. hahaAs harsh as that may sound, he's right. Give her 200 bucks to have her hair and makeup done and get some padded push up bras, then your talking..
Her eyes are great, but because of her lack of makeup and skin color they get lost in the mess.
While you are at it, why not pick out some outfits for her that flatter her figure instead of making her look flat as a pancake.
Yeah, I know, harsh.icq# 294696130
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I think she's a cutie and she's got great nips!
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Are those bugs on her face?
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Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
Yeah, I may have been harsh, but i don't think I am off base here. Also, the last thing I would be doing if I sold content is post pics of a girl that has no clue about make up and looks very un-kept. She looks like she needs a bath and a makeover. A tan would be nice for just a bit of color. She's all pasty so she looks ill. She's fresh out of the trailer based on those pictures and it looks like the water was shut off before she left. haha
Her eyes are great, but because of her lack of makeup and skin color they get lost in the mess.
While you are at it, why not pick out some outfits for her that flatter her figure instead of making her look flat as a pancake.
Yeah, I know, harsh.
I target the Amateur market. Do you remember back before you were in this business? Remember surfing the internet looking for photos? Who did you look for? Was it some made up chick or your next door neighbor?
Maybe you're different than me... we all have our own tastes... but I personally surfed the newsgroups and voyeurweb looking for girlfriends and housewives. I always hoped I'd someday run across someone I knew.
I don't know about you, but the girls I know and run into on a day-to-day basis usually look just like this girl.
And I'd be willing to compare my income to yours at any time to see who's business plan does better.Comment
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I will be the one -- on my way over now... just where are you?
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Damn it, will ya stop arguing if she is hot or not, or if she will sell. Someone wants rates.Comment
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I agree with you and each model does not have to be hot as a Penthouse Pet to sell on the net. I know that for sure. Look at tawnee, she is far from hot, but very girl next door. We all know what happened with her. However, Tawnee looks clean and well kept. This girl does not in my opinion.Some adult webmasters are SO out of touch with what sells online. While SOME surfers want the perfect Penthouse Pet, most want to see the girl next door. The girl they see walking down the street.
She could be less attractive then she is and still do well, but she is just to un-kept looking. As some one said above. Give her 200.00 get her hair and nails done. Get a spray on tan and a cute little outfit or two (something that matchs her look) and give it another try. It might work out.icq# 294696130
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hey don can you do a foot fetish shoot with her? If so how much? email me @ [email protected] I can't seem to load icq at the moment
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He is ignoring rate requests tomOriginally posted by va2k
hey don can you do a foot fetish shoot with her? If so how much? email me @ [email protected] I can't seem to load icq at the moment
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No trust me, without even trying to be boastful, if you make in a year what I make in a month I will pay to have that girl totally done over from top to bottom. Im not talking some 200.00 job either, lets start at 10k and go from there.And I'd be willing to compare my income to yours at any time to see who's business plan does better.
I've seen your work over the years Don and its good. Ive seen alot of girls you shoot and I have like them. This is not one of those times.icq# 294696130
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Depends on what you want her for....Originally posted by freeadultcontent
Damn it, will ya stop arguing if she is hot or not, or if she will sell. Someone wants rates.
I don't like to shoot hardcore. So if you're looking for softcore, I'd be glad to discuss rates with you... but if you want hardcore I'd prefer to send her to someone like AaronM to shoot the hardcore of her. In a case like that, you'd have to work out prices with him.
My referral rates for sending a model to someone are very low:
* take good care of her
* shoot a hardcore set or two for me
* pay her travel expenses
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* you met me, I aint evil and do not abuse talent.Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
My referral rates for sending a model to someone are very low:
* take good care of her
* shoot a hardcore set or two for me
* pay her travel expenses
That's about it.
* Hell I do not mind that.
* I am about 60 miles from you as you know so I can travel there just as easy.Comment
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You know... I'm glad you brought this up. I spend alot of time preparing talent for shoots. There are no ready-made nude models, they all need some work. From hair, to nails, to tanning, to clothing, to learning the trade, to facial expressions, to organizing thier time, to exercising, to time management to sometimes even detoxing from thier current lifestyle. Yes, young people party alot, but my job is to present something more atractive & to get them so busy that they don't have time to party & fuck up. Now, when a model wants to go out & party & she has a shoot the next day, I just pick up the phone & tell the producer that she doesn't care about his shoot or his money and they usually cancel. I have been an adult babysitter for 8 years and make no mistake, it is a full time job and I earn every dime. There is just so much that goes into it that no-one sees that often times it seems as though an agent or manager is overpaid - but let me assure you that I would pay anyone good money to do this job for my shoots as it will make the absolute diference in the content being salable or junk, or the talent even showing up. Add up all the kill fees for location, assistants, make-up artists, and the time wasted when a girl shows up unprepared, unaware of her job, late, with no clothes or doesn't even show up at all. If an agent/manager doesn't do all of this above and drive her to the set but just expects to sit at home & collect a check - don't pay him a dime. Just myOriginally posted by Murphy_Dog
Yeah, I may have been harsh, but i don't think I am off base here. Also, the last thing I would be doing if I sold content is post pics of a girl that has no clue about make up and looks very un-kept. She looks like she needs a bath and a makeover. A tan would be nice for just a bit of color. She's all pasty so she looks ill. She's fresh out of the trailer based on those pictures and it looks like the water was shut off before she left. haha
Her eyes are great, but because of her lack of makeup and skin color they get lost in the mess.
While you are at it, why not pick out some outfits for her that flatter her figure instead of making her look flat as a pancake.
Yeah, I know, harsh.
and 8 years worth of experience 24/7 dealing with models.
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Thank you and THANK GOD!You know... I'm glad you brought this up. I spend alot of time preparing talent for shoots. There are no ready-made nude models, they all need some work. From hair, to nails, to tanning, to clothing, to learning the trade, to facial expressions, to organizing thier time, to exercising, to time management to sometimes even detoxing from thier current lifestyle. Yes, young people party alot, but my job is present something more atractive & to get them so busy that they don't have time to party & fuck up. Now, when a model wants to go out & party & she has a shoot the next day, just pick up the phone & tell the producer that she doesn't care about his shoot or his money and they usually cancel. I have been an adult babysitter for 8 years and make no mistake, it is a full time job and I earn every dime. There is just so much that goes into it that no-one sees that often times it seems as though an agent or manager is overpaid - but let me assure you that I would pay anyone good money to do this job for my shoots as it will make the absolute diference in the content being salable or junk, or the talent even showing up. Add up all the kill fees for location, assistants, make-up artists, and the time wasted when a girl shows up unprepared, unaware of her job, late, with no clothes or doesn't even show up at all. If an agent/manager doesn't do all of this above and drive her to the set but just expects to sit at home & collect a check - don't pay him a dime. Just my and 8 years worth of experience 24/7 dealing with models.
Good advice Donny... read it. I don't want to see this mistake out of you again.
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Originally posted by POV Porn guy
You know... I'm glad you brought this up. I spend alot of time preparing talent for shoots. There are no ready-made nude models, they all need some work. From hair, to nails, to tanning, to clothing, to learning the trade, to facial expressions, to organizing thier time, to exercising, to time management to sometimes even detoxing from thier current lifestyle. Yes, young people party alot, but my job is to present something more atractive & to get them so busy that they don't have time to party & fuck up. Now, when a model wants to go out & party & she has a shoot the next day, I just pick up the phone & tell the producer that she doesn't care about his shoot or his money and they usually cancel. I have been an adult babysitter for 8 years and make no mistake, it is a full time job and I earn every dime. There is just so much that goes into it that no-one sees that often times it seems as though an agent or manager is overpaid - but let me assure you that I would pay anyone good money to do this job for my shoots as it will make the absolute diference in the content being salable or junk, or the talent even showing up. Add up all the kill fees for location, assistants, make-up artists, and the time wasted when a girl shows up unprepared, unaware of her job, late, with no clothes or doesn't even show up at all. If an agent/manager doesn't do all of this above and drive her to the set but just expects to sit at home & collect a check - don't pay him a dime. Just my and 8 years worth of experience 24/7 dealing with models.
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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
She's here at the house right now doing some work. But she really wants to work with boys. Any volunteers?
nice shot.
there is a strong market for the normal middle class girl-next- door look.
the eyes are provocative and intelligent, and this sort of stuff does convert if handled properly.promote our original content 30 niche site package with ccbill:
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Some of you need to try being more broad-minded in your judgements. Average girl-next-door models are a proven market, so much so that just about any average josephine can be a marketable commodity for a smart webmaster. The girl next door isn't always "on", she isn't always wearing full makeup with perfect hair and nails and precise lighting and highlights. Fans of the girl-next-door aren't looking for perfection, they are looking for the fantasy of checking out the neighbor chick naked or watching her fuck her boyfriend or husband or girlfriend. Offering them a variety of girls to look at is a wise move.
This particular girl has a decent body, nice eyes, nice lips, I've seen much worse in the hair department, I like the color anyway, she has a nice structured face, smallish boobs but still nice enough, and a nice pussy. So what if she has a few freckles, NEWSFLASH: real people have them for fuck sakes.
If a girl like this doesn't meet your lofty "I know better than you" requirements then why not move along and buy some other chick that does? Anyone that says a girl like this isn't marketable just doesn't get the whole amateur concept.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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Im only a couple hours from Chico. Send her on down to me
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Well im not bs'ing I would like a set of foot fetish and if you want just email me and ill tell you what is needed! My site has taken off faster and better then my pea brain thought it would and my members want more need more lol Im shooting this weekend and buying from 3 others so im 100% real don.... Hit me up she is hot as hell..Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Depends on what you want her for....
I don't like to shoot hardcore. So if you're looking for softcore, I'd be glad to discuss rates with you... but if you want hardcore I'd prefer to send her to someone like AaronM to shoot the hardcore of her. In a case like that, you'd have to work out prices with him.
My referral rates for sending a model to someone are very low:
* take good care of her
* shoot a hardcore set or two for me
* pay her travel expenses
That's about it.
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Damn for once a good post from youOriginally posted by CDSmith
Some of you need to try being more broad-minded in your judgements. Average girl-next-door models are a proven market, so much so that just about any average josephine can be a marketable commodity for a smart webmaster. The girl next door isn't always "on", she isn't always wearing full makeup with perfect hair and nails and precise lighting and highlights. Fans of the girl-next-door aren't looking for perfection, they are looking for the fantasy of checking out the neighbor chick naked or watching her fuck her boyfriend or husband or girlfriend. Offering them a variety of girls to look at is a wise move.
This particular girl has a decent body, nice eyes, nice lips, I've seen much worse in the hair department, I like the color anyway, she has a nice structured face, smallish boobs but still nice enough, and a nice pussy. So what if she has a few freckles, NEWSFLASH: real people have them for fuck sakes.
If a girl like this doesn't meet your lofty "I know better than you" requirements then why not move along and buy some other chick that does? Anyone that says a girl like this isn't marketable just doesn't get the whole amateur concept.
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Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
No trust me, without even trying to be boastful, if you make in a year what I make in a month I will pay to have that girl totally done over from top to bottom. Im not talking some 200.00 job either, lets start at 10k and go from there.
I've seen your work over the years Don and its good. Ive seen alot of girls you shoot and I have like them. This is not one of those times.
If I make in a year what you make in a month you'll do all that, eh? If you made that much you would be a VERY wealthy man.
Consider this (this is no bullshit - I am dead serious):
* I've been in the business for 6 years. I have a small handful of clients that I've been doing business with for all 6 of those years who spend 6 figures a year with me just for exclusive content, and another handful that spend 5 figures each
* I also have 5 pay sites, several free sites, and numerous pay sites in development
* My free hosted galleries receive 9 million - 15 million uniques a month... if you know much about FHG traffic I'm sure you'll have a good idea what the numbers are on conversions
So, while you may make a lot of money... and possibly more than I do, I would seriously doubt you make more in a month than I make in a year.
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I have my moments. :DOriginally posted by va2k
Damn for once a good post from you
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Originally posted by va2k
Well im not bs'ing I would like a set of foot fetish and if you want just email me and ill tell you what is needed! My site has taken off faster and better then my pea brain thought it would and my members want more need more lol Im shooting this weekend and buying from 3 others so im 100% real don.... Hit me up she is hot as hell..
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I'll make you a good deal on that. Just let me know what you want. I'll have her back in soon so I'll be able to get them to you soon.
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Donny if she wants to do b/g ICQ me. not sure why you didn't email Brian about this.
whoever shot those pics has spent time watching Brian
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anybody else get 'This person is on your Ignore list' for CD Smith?I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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I see him just fine.Originally posted by Mutt
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I'll offer my services and waive my usual fee.Comment
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you my friend are cluelessOriginally posted by Murphy_Dog
Did someone say she was hot? Are you serious? This girl is bargin basement content if I ever seen it. She's not the least bit attractive and could not look sexy if her life depended on it. Also, what the hell is up with you taking close-ups of her face? For god sakes man, show some respect.
Sorry folks, but this girl in not some"thing" I would pay a dime for. Damn, some of you webmasters are really needy. This girl is frumpyComment
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She's ok but her nips are great
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Email sent, hope it don't scare you lolOriginally posted by DonovanPhillips
I'll make you a good deal on that. Just let me know what you want. I'll have her back in soon so I'll be able to get them to you soon.
Email your requirments to:
[email protected]
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No worries Donny.
Been running paysites, freesites and you name it since 1997
My tgps (20 plus) get 4-5 million views a day and gallery view are at 2.5-3 million a day. I own 32 different paysites and I am part owner in several different programs with gross yearly sales of over 6 million.
So, thats enough info and I have said more then I should. Does it really matter what we make? Fuck no! Who cares, but you brought it up.
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Hey wanna be Murphy_DogOriginally posted by OneHungLo
you my friend are clueless
If I can sell my exwife Then that proves you can sell anything. You are real man bashing girls on public boards like this, I bet and I would prolly bet money on this the only girls you get are lefty and righty eh? come on be a man tell the truth you troll!!
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Read the rest of my post in this thread thenyou my friend are clueless
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nice rock on her fingerCrypto HODLr
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I can be in chico in two hours.Insert Value Here.Comment
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if she's std free, i'll fuck that bitch.Comment
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Sure, fly me out to California. Or her to Hawaii.
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I'm only a hour from Chico...
does she like fat lazy guys too?Comment
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Donovan: That's my type of girl. WHEW. I love itComment
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fo sureOriginally posted by axelcat
Id hit that
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Let's see... if your sites gross yearly sales of over $6 million and you only own part of them I don't think your numbers will work for the bet you wanted to make.Originally posted by Murphy_Dog
No worries Donny.
Been running paysites, freesites and you name it since 1997
My tgps (20 plus) get 4-5 million views a day and gallery view are at 2.5-3 million a day. I own 32 different paysites and I am part owner in several different programs with gross yearly sales of over 6 million.
So, thats enough info and I have said more then I should. Does it really matter what we make? Fuck no! Who cares, but you brought it up.
Let's say you made ALL $6 million a year... that is $500,000 a month. So to win the bet I'd only have to make $500,000 a year.
So... when and where should I send the model for her make over?
EDIT TO ADD: Like I said, this used to be my girlfriend's computer. I forgot to log her user out of Netscape. This was posted by Donovan.Comment
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