i've been doing this for some time, and damn does it have it's headaches.
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fuck you man, i quit, im tired of your shit.
find someone new to abuse you self righteous bizatch
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question is: what came first?Someone finds you...
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I make it a point not to get to friendly with my coworkers.
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bad mix if you ask me
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friends or family never mix too good in biz. unless you subcontract each other
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Originally posted by chowda
question is: what came first?
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IMHO, sure fire way to kill a friendship.Comment
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My thoughts also.Originally posted by MrIzzz
friends or family never mix too good in biz. unless you subcontract each otherComment
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biz first, friendship later.
no threat to the biz (not even close), just a serious headache from time to time.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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to quote a popular theme songOriginally posted by quiet
biz first, friendship later.
no threat to the biz (not even close), just a serious headache from time to time.
u take the good
u take the bad
u take them both and there u have
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depends on the quality of the individual...
if they are a go-getting motivated WITH IT person...yes, if not...why risk the friendship if there is any doubt of them being able to live up to your expectations or requirements?
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ive decided against this (employing freinds) every time i have considered it.
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well in my mainstream work hiring friends was a horible idea, so far with the adult biz it has worked out a bit diff, but too many times i have seen in various places, Friend/employee does not work at all, 9 times out of 10 it goes bad, due to the friend not fully respecting the "boss" during biz hours, and alot of ppl IMHO have a hard time seperating the work/offwork roles.
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Been there, done that. Never works. 'Nuff said.
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"Seven: this rule is so underrated
Keep your family and business completely seperated
Money and blood don't mix like two dicks and no bitch
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It doesn't work.
They think there is some special bond.
Once they start to bitch.. it ruins a friendship.Comment
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been there, done that, didn't work.Comment
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When you have a business and make money this will always happen, you try and help your friends best you can.Originally posted by quiet
i've been doing this for some time, and damn does it have it's headaches.
Sometimes it works out well sometimes it doesn't
That's Life
sometimes happens the other way around you have an employee that you become best friends with, give and take like in any relationship be it buisness or other as long as they realise YOU
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now what about family and employee?
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I've become friends with people I work with but I've never hired or worked for anyone who was a friend or family member before the work relationship. I've seen money destroy too many relationships, especially when there's a lot of it.
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has worked out well for me over the years. there are issues, but so far none insurmountable.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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easier to kill yourself. faster too.Originally posted by psyko514
now what about family and employee?
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please read again.Originally posted by quiet
biz first, friendship later.
no threat to the biz (not even close), just a serious headache from time to time.we'll miss you our friend. RIPComment
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im glad my friends are lazy punk rockers who dont want to work anyway...
hahah
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don't assume all or none.Originally posted by Fletch XXX
im glad my friends are lazy punk rockers who dont want to work anyway...
hahah
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Not unless you want your friendship and your business to suffer.Comment
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youre right.Originally posted by quiet
don't assume all or none.
actually few of my friends are lazy, they just aint cut out for this industry.
my three closest friends, one is a recording studio engineer, the other a music instructor (digital music genius) - these guys need to be in a room surrounded by mics and computers, the last a videographer, who designs and edits DVD menus and digital video on avid... they know nothing about anything except music and recording.
heh ;)
cheers man.
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very bad idea, if you ever have to fire him for being unsatisfactory/incompetent, he will take it personally and your friendship will become alienated.Originally posted by quiet
i've been doing this for some time, and damn does it have it's headaches.Comment
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It's a fine line...but I work with my friends.Adult Business Consultant since 1995
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not entirely a bad idea.. especially long distance.Comment
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I've done this off and on for years. only really killed one friendship: had a guy working for me a one company, i left, got him a job at the next. and his gf. They both worked for me. We hung out a lot, went to the bars every thurs and sat for a year or so. Then I had to fire his gf because she wouldn't do shit. Just sat around in our beanbag room bullshitting with our eng staff.
Yeah, that was a bad day. 2 people let go in a 30m period. One for not doing shit, one for just being an all around fucktard.
I still talk to my friend occasionally. But its not a 'comfortable' thing.
On the other hand, the rest are great. People who respect you work well for you. People who fear you also tend to harbor ill feelings toward you.Comment
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It's ok until you have to jump their ass about something - then it brings bad feelings. I've made the mistake of being *friends* with bosses in the past - it has always come back to haunt me.
You should keep your distance and your employees should as well.
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We just let a good friend go today.. It was kinda hard but he left on good terms.. A headake for sure non the less..Originally posted by quiet
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friends with the boss?Originally posted by DeanCapture
It's ok until you have to jump their ass about something - then it brings bad feelings. I've made the mistake of being *friends* with bosses in the past - it has always come back to haunt me.
You should keep your distance and your employees should as well.
you dirty traitor.
fuck the boss, ALWAYS.
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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
friends with the boss?
you dirty traitor.
fuck the boss, ALWAYS.
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Depends on the people involved, as long as everyone realises that business is business, and business relationships should not effect friendships, and vise versa. I'm friends with alot of my clients, but i don't take advantage of the fact, and neither do they.
In short, it can work out, but for most it usually doesn't.
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Its never a good idea to be writing a paycheck for your friends or family. it just doesn't work in the long run. At least it hasn't for meComment
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Lost a few friends like this. One fellow decided to clone my sites on my own servers, and the other just became resentful of my success.
No friends or family.Comment
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Depending on the individuals and what they expect from the work/friendship equation. I've had people working for me that we all became relatively close friends. They knew my limits - sick days, slacking off - when there was overtime though, they all volunteered (same pay) - when the company needed us to work until 4 am...they were all there. Whatever was put on my shoulders, they would be there to take some of the weight off for me too. I can't complain. I could have counted on them - and they knew they could have counted on me. It was a give and take.
If your employer/employee friendship is bringing expectations from the employee that weren't there beforehand, then it's not a good idea to let the friendship grow. If the person is just as productive, doesn't expect preferential treatment and respects the same rules as everyone else, I don't see a problem with it. The other thing to take into consideration is that we do tend to spend most of our time with our co-workers, so it's inevitable that friendships grow at the workplace - when it changes the attitudes of the people involved towards their work and responsabilities, then it may create a problem.
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Ive worked for friends and employed friends...
I can seperate the work relationship from the freindship part and have in the past when I worked for friends. I am more willing to go the extra mile to help out people since their success is relative to my success.
At the end of the day, they are disrespecting your friendship overall and thats not cool if you have been right by them.
It all comes down to how much shit do you want to take? is this person a nightmare in some respects, yet really happening and on the ball in others?
Can they improve and or want to change?
Have a chat with them, if no change, then explore your options. each person out there is unique and brings different pluses and minuses to your table. Whats the best for YOU?Comment
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You have some talented friendsOriginally posted by Fletch XXX
youre right.
actually few of my friends are lazy, they just aint cut out for this industry.
my three closest friends, one is a recording studio engineer, the other a music instructor (digital music genius) - these guys need to be in a room surrounded by mics and computers, the last a videographer, who designs and edits DVD menus and digital video on avid... they know nothing about anything except music and recording.
heh ;)
cheers man.
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Bad idea...always a bad idea.
Friends and business are always the worst mix. If they are friends when they start out they won't be when you finish.
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can be very difficult...its usually not best for the relationshipComment
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I dunno it's not really a problem if you put your limit clearOriginally posted by rayadp05Comment
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