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  • SomeCreep
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    #51
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    • bluff
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      • Jan 2004
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      #52
      Funny how some people want THE BENEFITS but none of THE COSTS.

      Typical human nature.


      Originally posted by BRISK





      Exactly.

      Anyone who complains about outsourcing, but yet has purchased items made in other countries is a hypocrite.

      Buying labor from another country is no different than buying products from another country.

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      • BRISK
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        • Feb 2003
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        #53
        Originally posted by CCFool
        Say whatever you want.

        The truth still stands: MILLIONS are without work in America and it's getting worse because of GREED.
        Newsflash: Greed is what will make it better. Greed is what will build mega corporations in America to provide those people with jobs.

        Greed makes economies grow.

        I suggest you study some basic economics.
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        • twistyneck
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          • Jan 2002
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          #54
          Originally posted by SomeCreep
          50
          Damn it. I was going to say "50 cheap fuckers" and then you robbed me of it. Oh well.

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          • toddler
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            • Jun 2002
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            #55
            Originally posted by CCFool
            Say whatever you want.

            The truth still stands: MILLIONS are without work in America and it's getting worse because of GREED.
            I don't see how you can get high and mighty about that? There are hundreds of millions in the same boat. Are they somehow less important because they aren't American?
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            • BRISK
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              • Feb 2003
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              #56
              Originally posted by twistyneck


              Not entirely. In many cases we don't have a choice. Beyond that, we did not deliberately seek out an individual to impoverish with low wages. Guys like KRL did that.
              I'm fairly sure KRL is employing WILLING WORKERS. He's not putting a gun to their head and forcing them to work for those wages. THEY WANT TO WORK FOR THOSE WAGES!
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              • twistyneck
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                • Jan 2002
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                #57
                Originally posted by BRISK


                Newsflash: Greed is what will make it better. Greed is what will build mega corporations in America to provide those people with jobs.

                Greed makes economies grow.

                I suggest you study some basic economics.
                Most of this "greed" that you are so fond of serves only to truly enrich a few individuals.

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                • CCFool
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                  • Sep 2003
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BRISK


                  Newsflash: Greed is what will make it better. Greed is what will build mega corporations in America to provide those people with jobs.

                  Greed makes economies grow.

                  I suggest you study some basic economics.

                  You are so stuck on that false argument it's pathetic. You should really try to think with that little blob that you call a brain.

                  This thread really proves what a complete moron you really are.

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                  • Illicit
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                    • Dec 2003
                    • 11895

                    #59
                    Ever wonder why you keep seeing these outsourcing guys on this board. Its easy money for them. If they can get paid in American money, at a decent rate, their lifestyle changes dramatically. Heck, if I lived there I would be cashing in on you people big time. I wouldnt even have to know how to do shit, I would take your money and hire some guys for the local wage, and pocket the rest.
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                    • BRISK
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                      • Feb 2003
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by twistyneck


                      Most of this "greed" that you are so fond of serves only to truly enrich a few individuals.
                      Who the hell should it enrich? The trailer trash on Jerry Springer?

                      Meritocracy <------- learn the meaning of the word.
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                      • twistyneck
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                        • Jan 2002
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by BRISK


                        I'm fairly sure KRL is employing WILLING WORKERS. He's not putting a gun to their head and forcing them to work for those wages. THEY WANT TO WORK FOR THOSE WAGES!
                        Don't kid yourself. He's looking for desperate workers that he can exploit. If that were not the case, he'd use some of his millions to run an ad in the local paper. I'm sure he could find a college kid for $10 or $15 an hour but no, that would cut into profits just a little bit too much.

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                        • BRISK
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #62
                          Originally posted by CCFool



                          You are so stuck on that false argument it's patetic. You should really try to think with that little blob that you call a brain.

                          This thread really proves what a complete moron you really are.
                          Another excellent retort!
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                          • twistyneck
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                            • Jan 2002
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by BRISK


                            Who the hell should it enrich? The trailer trash on Jerry Springer?

                            Meritocracy <------- learn the meaning of the word.
                            I will agree that a person that runs a company has a right to get rich, hell, that is why we are here. At the same time, that person has a moral obligation to see to it that his employees (the people that helped him get rich) are able to prosper as well.

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                            • toddler
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                              • Jun 2002
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                              #64
                              Originally posted by twistyneck


                              I will agree that a person that runs a company has a right to get rich, hell, that is why we are here. At the same time, that person has a moral obligation to see to it that his employees (the people that helped him get rich) are able to prosper as well.
                              And we are. The people who are being outsourced to get a hefty raise in income to make their lives better.
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                              • CCFool
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                                • Sep 2003
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by BRISK


                                I'm fairly sure KRL is employing WILLING WORKERS. He's not putting a gun to their head and forcing them to work for those wages. THEY WANT TO WORK FOR THOSE WAGES!
                                Yes, Willing Workers in another fucking country while his brothers and sisters in America go jobless so he can save a couple dollars an hour.

                                It's Pathetic.

                                It's GREED.

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                                • twistyneck
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                                  • Jan 2002
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by toddler


                                  And we are. The people who are being outsourced to get a hefty raise in income to make their lives better.

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                                  • BRISK
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                                    • Feb 2003
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by twistyneck


                                    Don't kid yourself. He's looking for desperate workers that he can exploit. If that were not the case, he'd use some of his millions to run an ad in the local paper. I'm sure he could find a college kid for $10 or $15 an hour but no, that would cut into profits just a little bit too much.
                                    I'm fairly sure KRL is in business to make money, why would he want to pay more money for something that he could get for less?

                                    Businesses aren't charities. They exist for one reason ---> profit
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                                    • 69pornlinks
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                                      • Mar 2003
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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by BRISK


                                      Newsflash: Greed is what will make it better. Greed is what will build mega corporations in America to provide those people with jobs.

                                      Excatly, new wal-marts are being built as i type this..haha
                                      It IS what it IS

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                                      • BRISK
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                                        • Feb 2003
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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by twistyneck


                                        I will agree that a person that runs a company has a right to get rich, hell, that is why we are here. At the same time, that person has a moral obligation to see to it that his employees (the people that helped him get rich) are able to prosper as well.
                                        People making $15,000 a year in India are prospering relative to the average of $3,000 a year everyone else makes. It helps to think in relative terms.
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                                        • twistyneck
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                                          • Jan 2002
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                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by BRISK


                                          I'm fairly sure KRL is in business to make money, why would he want to pay more money for something that he could get for less?

                                          Businesses aren't charities. They exist for one reason ---> profit
                                          The profit motive does not exempt him from caring about people as much as he seems to care about dogs.

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                                          • Illicit
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                                            • Dec 2003
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                                            #71
                                            http://www.rescueamericanjobs.org/
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                                            • CCFool
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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by BRISK


                                              I'm fairly sure KRL is in business to make money, why would he want to pay more money for something that he could get for less?

                                              Businesses aren't charities. They exist for one reason ---> profit
                                              Making a profit is one thing.

                                              Putting your fellow Americans out of work so you can pocket another million is another thing.

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                                              • BRISK
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                                                • Feb 2003
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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by CCFool


                                                Yes, Willing Workers in another fucking country while his brothers and sisters in America go jobless so he can save a couple dollars an hour.

                                                It's Pathetic.

                                                It's GREED.
                                                Last time I checked America was a capitalist country. You might be more comfortable living in Cuba. Goodbye!
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                                                • CCFool
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                                                  • Sep 2003
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                                                  #74
                                                  Some people have a heart...and some do not.

                                                  Some people care for their neighbors...and fellow Americans, and some do not.

                                                  It's as simple as that.

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                                                  • toddler
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                                                    • Jun 2002
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by CCFool


                                                    Making a profit is one thing.

                                                    Putting your fellow Americans out of work so you can pocket another million is another thing.
                                                    McDonalds turned you down didn't they?

                                                    (come on, someone had to...)
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                                                    • twistyneck
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                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by CCFool
                                                      Some people have a heart...and some do not.

                                                      It's as simple as that.
                                                      That's really what it boils down to.

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                                                      • KRL
                                                        Entrepreneur
                                                        • Oct 2002
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                                                        #77
                                                        CCFool

                                                        First off I asked this tech how much are your services. I didn't say I'm going to pay you this or that. I let him tell me.

                                                        I pay Americans techs $35 an hour.

                                                        This fellow just happened to be highly qualified and based in India.

                                                        I didn't go searching out a foreigner. He just happened to be the one that was the most qualified for the task I needed and he offered me his services at a very good rate.

                                                        So it has nothing to do with greed. Its just a business decision and that's how it turned out.
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                                                        • twistyneck
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                                                          • Jan 2002
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                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by KRL
                                                          CCFool

                                                          First off I asked this tech how much are your services. I didn't say I'm going to pay you this or that. I let him tell me.

                                                          I pay Americans techs $35 an hour.

                                                          This fellow just happened to be highly qualified and based in India.

                                                          I didn't go searching out a foreigner. He just happened to be the one that was the most qualified for the task I needed and he offered me his services at a very good rate.

                                                          So it has nothing to do with greed. Its just a business decision and that's how it turned out.
                                                          Then pay him $35 an hour.

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                                                          • CCFool
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                                                            • Sep 2003
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                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                            CCFool

                                                            First off I asked this tech how much are your services. I didn't say I'm going to pay you this or that. I let him tell me.

                                                            I pay Americans techs $35 an hour.

                                                            This fellow just happened to be highly qualified and based in India.

                                                            I didn't go searching out a foreigner. He just happened to be the one that was the most qualified for the task I needed and he offered me his services at a very good rate.

                                                            So it has nothing to do with greed. Its just a business decision and that's how it turned out.

                                                            KRL,

                                                            After reading many of your posts over the last few months, I really thought you were one that cared about the well being of people...your neighbors...fellow Americans.

                                                            I really hope that is true.

                                                            I admit I would be very disappointed if I were to be proven wrong...and I think I was tonight.

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                                                            • BRISK
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                                                              • Feb 2003
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                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by CCFool
                                                              Some people have a heart...and some do not.

                                                              Some people care for their neighbors...and fellow Americans, and some do not.

                                                              It's as simple as that.
                                                              Do you say the same thing to people who drive import cars instead of Fords and GM cars?

                                                              Do you say the same thing to people who buy clothes made in other countries?

                                                              By the way, what country was the computer you're using made in? If it wasn't made in America then you're a hypocrite because you purchased a product from another country instead of from an American company which employed your "brothers and sisters"
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                                                              • Illicit
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                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                • 11895

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by CCFool


                                                                Making a profit is one thing.

                                                                Putting your fellow Americans out of work so you can pocket another million is another thing.
                                                                Its the big corporations you need to worry about, not him. The company I work for moved 90% of its manufacturing to 3rd world countries over the last 5 years. Cost cutting adds has saved hundreds of millions of dollars.

                                                                The price for this ? Laying off about 3000 American Employees.
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                                                                • 69pornlinks
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by ajpiii


                                                                  The price for this ? Laying off about 3000 American Employees.

                                                                  Hey, there's the military(enough invasions in the business plan so you won't have to worry about a layoff) or wal-mart? they can pick either or....haha
                                                                  It IS what it IS

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                                                                  • KRL
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                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                    • 31429

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Everyone better wake up quick. Corporations operate globally now. The jobs go to the best workers at the lowest cost per hour. Its that simple. They do not give a fuck if the workers are here or in China or in India or wherever.

                                                                    In some of the businesses I'm a partner in the emps average from $4,000 to $6,000 per month. So its not like everything I do is overseas. But as a businessman overseas labor has become extremely attractive recently, I have to admit.
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                                                                    • prostock
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                                                                      • Jun 2002
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      twistyneck

                                                                      I want to ask do you own sites , and if so you are telling us then all the models are from the usa and not any other for the fact that 95% of allother countrys you can and we do shoot for much less then the usa ,

                                                                      next i am one of the owners of xxxoutsourcing and i can tell you that our guys are paid more then what the reg pay here is and are very happy for what we do , i treat them very good and they treat me just as well .
                                                                      People bitch keep in the usa , i have seen many people get job offers and bitch and wouldnt take for they thknk they should get much much more they reather not work if they not get .
                                                                      80 % of americans are lazy and if you want admit that well you have the prob . we all see day after day .

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                                                                      • Illicit
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                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 11895

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by 69pornlinks



                                                                        Hey, there's the military(enough invasions in the business plan so you won't have to worry about a layoff) or wal-mart? they can pick either or....haha
                                                                        Im one of the lucky survivors for now. Ive racked up over 700,000 frequent flyer miles though. I get to go to all the worst places on earth for free !
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                                                                        • racer
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                                          may i ask where you find these contacts (always wonderd)
                                                                          1) you can travel to some eastern Europe countries where you will find lots of educated English speaking workers ready to work for $3-7/hour

                                                                          2) you can contact me (or someone on this board) and I'll find you skilled college educated people that will work for $3-7/hour
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                                                                          • Mike-BP
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            CCFool is gay
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                                                                            • [Dan]
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by CCFool



                                                                              If you had a choice to help another country or help your own...which would you choose?

                                                                              Any human with a heart would choose to help their own country's people.

                                                                              MILLIONS are without work and it's getting worse because of GREED.
                                                                              Actually, if you look at it from an outside point of view... USA is the richest country in the world; and it can afford to offer a very good quality of life for its unemployeed people. On the other side, you have a poor country like India where a bunch of people are dying from hunger and living in shitty conditions. If I have to give 1$ and need to choose between an American and an Indian, "any human with a heart would choose to help the" poor people/country, not the richest. It's like of you want to give 1$ and have to choose between a bum and Bill Gates, who will you choose? You're mixing 2 things here, you're not talking about heart but patriotism..

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                                                                              • TheJimmy
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                                                                                • Jan 2001
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                never paid for hourly suport from India, but in regards to offshore tech outsourcing, I did pay 600 a month for a guy from the Ukraine and I KNOW I was paying about 100-200 too much for him...

                                                                                ...compared to the local/going rates from a few others I know that hire from the same region...with similiar skills/background/etc...
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                                                                                • NiTe-HaWk
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Fuck you, if you can't find work in the US, lower your standards. Ditches still need to be dug.
                                                                                  yep I see lots of people complain there are no jobs but they won't take what is there. I work in a gas station besides my online stuff. I hate it but it is a job.
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                                                                                  • {fusion}
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    i would think it would be impossible to run a business and expand without outsourcing.

                                                                                    you need cheap labour to do monkey work while you concentrate on ideas and making more money.

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                                                                                    • Illicit
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                                                                                      • Dec 2003
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                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by NiTe-HaWk
                                                                                      yep I see lots of people complain there are no jobs but they won't take what is there. I work in a gas station besides my online stuff. I hate it but it is a job.
                                                                                      At least they cant outsource that job. My career will be gone in 5 - 10 years. Need to make it big in porn now
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                                                                                      • rounders
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Do you trust them on your servers? to do tech work?

                                                                                        thats what i wonder about
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                                                                                        • KRL
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                                                                                          • Oct 2002
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by rounders
                                                                                          Do you trust them on your servers? to do tech work?

                                                                                          thats what i wonder about
                                                                                          What kind of statement is that? You think you can trust techs in the US any more than you can trust a tech from another country?

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                                                                                          • Jer
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                                                                                            • Feb 2001
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by bugout
                                                                                            I pay my two techs here in Brazil R$400 month.

                                                                                            They work 6 days a week.

                                                                                            That's about $140
                                                                                            Are they in the college?

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                                                                                            • bugout
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Jer


                                                                                              Are they in the college?
                                                                                              Yep..

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