Epoch is waiving their $750, why doesn't CCBill step up to the plate?

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  • PhillipB
    Just a Simple Carpenter
    • May 2003
    • 1338

    #1

    Epoch is waiving their $750, why doesn't CCBill step up to the plate?

    I feel like adding another processor, what can CCBill do for me today?
  • uchase/webpry
    So Fucking Banned
    • Aug 2004
    • 2085

    #2
    ... STFUM

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    • PhillipB
      Just a Simple Carpenter
      • May 2003
      • 1338

      #3
      Originally posted by uchase/webpry
      ... STFUM

      http://www.nhlcanucks.com/gdfaq_v1_2.htm

      Q. What does STFUM stand for?
      A. SHUT THE FUCK UP, MILLEN.


      ?

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      • Jeffne
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2003
        • 141

        #4
        Apn P,

        I can be reach on ICQ at 49584169. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

        Jeff (CCBIll)

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        • MickeyG
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 4134

          #5
          If they wave their fee I'll signup too, i'd love to use em as a backup.

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          • PhillipB
            Just a Simple Carpenter
            • May 2003
            • 1338

            #6
            Originally posted by MickeyG
            If they wave their fee I'll signup too, i'd love to use em as a backup.
            agreed

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            • lacorporacione
              Confirmed User
              • May 2004
              • 252

              #7
              We dont charge the fee....
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              • PerfectionGirls
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2002
                • 4484

                #8
                Epoch is after the revshare market that IBill will be giving up.

                CCBill owns revshare so why go after it when you already master it?

                Epoch does not seem to have much of a market share of the revshare clients and they could gain a bunch by going after the former IBill clients. Plus one could imagin that revshare has to be better for a processors bottom line.

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                • beemk
                  CLICK HERE
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 20829

                  #9
                  if anyone picks a processor over a measley $750 they probably shouldnt be starting a paysite.
                  I host with Vacares

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                  • Easton
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 9825

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jeffne
                    Apn P,

                    I can be reach on ICQ at 49584169. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

                    Jeff (CCBIll)
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                    • FlyingIguana
                      aspiring banker
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 10870

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
                      Epoch is after the revshare market that IBill will be giving up.

                      CCBill owns revshare so why go after it when you already master it?

                      Epoch does not seem to have much of a market share of the revshare clients and they could gain a bunch by going after the former IBill clients. Plus one could imagin that revshare has to be better for a processors bottom line.

                      the reason for ccbill to go after those clients is to keep their leadership position.

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                      • sweetcuties
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 5859

                        #12
                        Hands down, CCBill is the best processor out there! Don't think in small terms about the $750, that's "piker" mentality!! CCBill always pays on time, has courteous and helpful reps and surfers trust them. I've been with them for almost 5yrs and WILL NEVER use another processor to handle the majority of my income

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                        • uchase/webpry
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2085

                          #13
                          Originally posted by APN Philip
                          http://www.nhlcanucks.com/gdfaq_v1_2.htm

                          Q. What does STFUM stand for?
                          A. SHUT THE FUCK UP, MILLEN.


                          ?


                          moron, it stands for moron and it commonly used to expose morons, so ... STFUM !!

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                          • KDizzla
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1795

                            #14
                            Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                            moron, it stands for moron and it commonly used to expose morons, so ... STFUM !!
                            I like Millen better.
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                            • tootie
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 6041

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jeffne
                              Apn P,

                              I can be reach on ICQ at 49584169. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

                              Jeff (CCBIll)
                              If you won't waive the fee, what's the point?


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                              • corvette
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 7880

                                #16
                                Originally posted by tootie
                                If you won't waive the fee, what's the point?
                                Epoch has extended a very generous gesture to non-Visa registered clients; I suggest that any business in need of a Visa sponsored merchant account take advantage of this. At this point, we do not intend to follow suit.

                                Tootie, I am sure that Jeff wanted to explain, 1 on 1, what CCBill has to offer webmasters in need of reliable third party processing
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                                • tootie
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 6041

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by corvett
                                  Epoch has extended a very generous gesture to non-Visa registered clients; I suggest that any business in need of a Visa sponsored merchant account take advantage of this. At this point, we do not intend to follow suit.

                                  Tootie, I am sure that Jeff wanted to explain, 1 on 1, what CCBill has to offer webmasters in need of reliable third party processing
                                  I understand, but I'll bet he got alot of people's hopes up, maybe people who were interested in CC Bill as a backup processor or cascading. He did make it seem like he was capable of waiving the fee. I already chose a primary processor for my site a few weeks ago, but having a secondary would have been nice, too.


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                                  • PhillipB
                                    Just a Simple Carpenter
                                    • May 2003
                                    • 1338

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by beemk
                                    if anyone picks a processor over a measley $750 they probably shouldnt be starting a paysite.
                                    Who's starting a pay site lol?

                                    Look before you post next time Einstein.

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                                    • PhillipB
                                      Just a Simple Carpenter
                                      • May 2003
                                      • 1338

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                                      moron, it stands for moron and it commonly used to expose morons, so ... STFUM !!
                                      Big words from someone that drives a Toyota Camry lol.

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                                      • baddog
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lacorporacione
                                        We dont charge the fee....
                                        you do realize that VISA frowns on people with a US processor using an offshore backup . . . . right?

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                                        • SleazyDream
                                          I'm here for SPORT
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 41470

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by corvett
                                          Epoch has extended a very generous gesture to non-Visa registered clients; I suggest that any business in need of a Visa sponsored merchant account take advantage of this. At this point, we do not intend to follow suit.

                                          Tootie, I am sure that Jeff wanted to explain, 1 on 1, what CCBill has to offer webmasters in need of reliable third party processing
                                          answers like this are why I use ccbill as primary.
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                                          • tootie
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 6041

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                            answers like this are why I use ccbill as primary.
                                            CC Bill is a great company. I used them for a site a few years ago and I had no complaints at all. I will probably seek CC Bill as my backup when I'm ready for one.


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                                            • webgurl
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 7954

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by uchase/webpry
                                              moron, it stands for moron and it commonly used to expose morons, so ... STFUM !!

                                              exactly STFUM to yourself , why the fuck would you come in this thread and say that to someone who is looking for other billing alternatives . Go back to your " Would You Hit It" Threads ...
                                              You are such an idiot

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                                              • emthree
                                                Dialer Kingpin
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 10816

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by webgurl
                                                exactly STFUM to yourself , why the fuck would you come in this thread and say that to someone who is looking for other billing alternatives . Go back to your " Would You Hit It" Threads ...
                                                You are such an idiot
                                                STFUM Yourself
                                                Why would you come into a billing alternative thread and feed a M?

                                                You're such an idiot


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                                                • AaronM
                                                  GFY Royality ;)
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 46917

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by corvett
                                                  Epoch has extended a very generous gesture to non-Visa registered clients; I suggest that any business in need of a Visa sponsored merchant account take advantage of this. At this point, we do not intend to follow suit.

                                                  Tootie, I am sure that Jeff wanted to explain, 1 on 1, what CCBill has to offer webmasters in need of reliable third party processing
                                                  Bravo...Very P.C. my man.

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                                                  • AaronM
                                                    GFY Royality ;)
                                                    • Oct 2001
                                                    • 46917

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tootie
                                                    I understand, but I'll bet he got alot of people's hopes up, maybe people who were interested in CC Bill as a backup processor or cascading. He did make it seem like he was capable of waiving the fee. I already chose a primary processor for my site a few weeks ago, but having a secondary would have been nice, too.

                                                    "he got alot of people's hopes up"
                                                    "He did make it seem like he was capable of waiving the fee."

                                                    The fuck he did. Shut the fuck up.

                                                    Think before you type a response.

                                                    This is 2 nights in a row that you have made yourself look like a complete dumbass.

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                                                    • tootie
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                      • 6041

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by AaronM
                                                      "he got alot of people's hopes up"
                                                      "He did make it seem like he was capable of waiving the fee."

                                                      The fuck he did. Shut the fuck up.

                                                      Think before you type a response.

                                                      This is 2 nights in a row that you have made yourself look like a complete dumbass.



                                                      Well, considering this post was made to ask why CCBill wasn't waiving the fee, then he came in and said nothing except to contact him, YEAH, it did sound like he might be talking about waiving the fee.

                                                      And I'd rather be a dumbass in the right than an asshole in the wrong anyday.


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                                                      • tootie
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 6041

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by AaronM
                                                        "he got alot of people's hopes up"
                                                        "He did make it seem like he was capable of waiving the fee."

                                                        The fuck he did. Shut the fuck up.

                                                        Think before you type a response.

                                                        This is 2 nights in a row that you have made yourself look like a complete dumbass.
                                                        Oh yeah, and I find it REALLY hilareous that you have a link to the free speech coalition in your sig, yet you're always telling people to shut the fuck up when they diagree with you.


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                                                        • AaronM
                                                          GFY Royality ;)
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 46917

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tootie


                                                          Well, considering this post was made to ask why CCBill wasn't waiving the fee, then he came in and said nothing except to contact him, YEAH, it did sound like he might be talking about waiving the fee.

                                                          And I'd rather be a dumbass in the right than an asshole in the wrong anyday.

                                                          Good. At least you have a goal to look forward to because tonight's not your night.

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                                                          • AaronM
                                                            GFY Royality ;)
                                                            • Oct 2001
                                                            • 46917

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by tootie
                                                            Oh yeah, and I find it REALLY hilareous that you have a link to the free speech coalition in your sig, yet you're always telling people to shut the fuck up when they diagree with you.
                                                            Wrong again you ignorant fool.

                                                            I have no problems with people who disagree with me. It's those who don't have a strong arguement that I tell to shut the fuck up. Try raising a strong, well thought out arguement for once and perhaps I will not chime in with yet another "STFU" in your honor.

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                                                            • makefuckingmoney
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                              • 3277

                                                              #31
                                                              Have you guys seen what Sean at ccbill makes?

                                                              and Jeff..oh man..he has had to try and pickup extra work as a fall guy on game shows..

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                                                              • macker
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 2161

                                                                #32
                                                                If $750 is an issue to people wanting to process through any of the 3rd party billing providers then they should just give up.

                                                                The very fact that the remaining 3rd party processors are still fighting to service this industry, we should all be comending rather than trying to save a penny here and a penny there. We all know that the margins in this industry don't require us to penny pinch in this way.


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                                                                • JoeA
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 568

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'm in the UK and have been with CCBill since mid 99, when my first processor went under ,and they told me to try CCBill to take over from them...

                                                                  They have always been exceptionally good to me and my bad temper.. Specially Jeff and Joel, who never gets a mention... Andrew in accts. always gets me my money when I ask for it without a prob. I've even asked for a payment after a cut off date which they've done for me.

                                                                  If I was in the States.. I'd pay the $750 as I'd look at it as being part of the CCBill service and not as paying to use Visa. Though if you're just starting up a pay site as a newbie, $750 can be a big lump to pay out in one go...
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                                                                  • Raven
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                                    • 6874

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Jeffne
                                                                    Apn P,

                                                                    I can be reach on ICQ at 49584169. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

                                                                    Jeff (CCBIll)
                                                                    I'm reading what Jeff posted....there's nothing in his answer that remotely suggests CCBill is offering to waive the fee.

                                                                    With a very old account number, starting with 900.....CCBill has always been there for us....had us up and running within hours of sypro going down....they have always been a class act....every single one of them.

                                                                    I process with both companies...I have nothing bad to say about either one of them...and corvett's answer was about the most diplomatic I've seen ...kudos.
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                                                                    • keyboard warrior
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 1435

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I am going to take the epoch deal - free to try out!

                                                                      cant pass up on that.
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                                                                      • beemk
                                                                        CLICK HERE
                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 20829

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by APN Philip
                                                                        Who's starting a pay site lol?

                                                                        Look before you post next time Einstein.
                                                                        my statement stays the same for any online business.
                                                                        I host with Vacares

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                                                                        • tony299
                                                                          lurker
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 57021

                                                                          #37
                                                                          CCbill is a good company my friend Mike South uses them and has nothing but praise for them. I can understand not waiving the 750 but a idea could be making it in payments so a smaller webmaster can have that fine company as a option especially where money could be tight in the current climate. .

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