Their military could give the US one hell of a fight. The major difference between the two nations is the lack of diplomatic influence. The US meddles in the internal affairs of virtually every nation on Earth, they have military bases everywhere, they have alliances and deals with every country. This allows them to get away with murder (literally). China, on the other hand, is pretty much isolated.
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The US government would send some troops and coca cola with special drugs to control the chinese population.Comment
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Can you name those countries?Originally posted by mrskin
Most of the large EU countries are running defecits that make the current US defecit look like a pin head percentage wise.
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Everyone knows US soldiers are double-pussy.
They don't enter any area, before double airbombings.
They are like cleaning ladies.
They have no courage.
I remember normandia scene from "Saving Private Ryan", nothing changed in 60 years at all!
Chinese soldiers are more disciplined. They also have a bigger army in quantity. They have 1.3 billions of people to spare!
Think, if one chinese kills 4 men with kung-fu, there will be no one except chinese in the whole world!BP4LComment
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I agree.Originally posted by mrskin
Ok first - there is no combined power of the EU. THe EU does not have a combined fiscal operation, a combined military operation a combined anything. It has a mumbo jumbo of everyone doing a little bit of their own thing and sharing a little bit of everyone elses stuff to do some joint things.
That dosnt work well when you need the EU as a whole to move in one direction as they tend to move in 6.
But they are working on several things you have mentioned in your post, like a European military and a foreign ministry so Europe speaks with 1 voice and not 5 or 10.
A constitution would definitely make Europe more like the US.Comment
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You should move to the US at onceOriginally posted by project_naughty
At present, the entire non-nuclear military might of China is only able to defeat 2 US carrier battle groups, and that is according to the Chinese' own boasts.
As for Europe (my continent) then the only word I have is "LOL".
We are a dying continent with an aging population and a booming Muslim birth rate. We are also saddled with socialism, which everyone knows doesn't work, but which our unelected leaders in the EU are pushing and pushing until it ruins us.
America's problems are coming from within - the naive "flower-children" of the 60s are the ones who hold influential posts now. It is they who are driving America in it's current direction of self-hate. It was those same people who lost the political war (but not the military war) in Vietnam. Those same people who spat at the returning US marines are the ones who are now telling America's children how to think.
What America needs is a severe dose of "anti-idiotarianism" so that it can rid itself of it's idiotarian left and stupid religious right.
America can rule forever as the standard-bearer of freedom, and I am all for that. But America has to want that too.
I reluctantly hope that Bush gets another 4 years, simply because the consequences for the world of a Kerry term in office are too frightening to think of.
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Ignore it and it will go away?Originally posted by theking
No...not in 20 years and possibly...if not probably...never.Comment
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Theking likes ignoring issues.Originally posted by Ironhorse
Ignore it and it will go away?Comment
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I think it's funny how all that stuff in your list runs on petroleum that will, in 20 years, only be available in the Middle East..Originally posted by mrskin
I dont disagree with that but i was trying to illustrate a point - be it 20 or 50 or even 100 there are certain things that america has that china dosnt have and will never have.
Complete road and rail infrustructure;
a fully armed civilian population;
thousands of the best jet fighters;
thousands of nuclear weapons;
at least 20-30 delta submarines that cruise the oceans of the world, their location not known by anyone in the world other than the people on board the submarine all armed with about 20 nuclear warheads each;
10 operational or near operational air craft carriers - which has been up to 15 at one point;
thousands of the best tanks;
military training vis-a-vis their troops esp. special forces, delta, rangers, navy seals etc.
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You think oil only exists in the middle east?Originally posted by Ironhorse
I think it's funny how all that stuff in your list runs on petroleum that will, in 20 years, only be available in the Middle East..
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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If the Chinese start consuming like Americans it will take the resources of 4 earths to sustain.
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It will in 20 years..Originally posted by BRISK
You think oil only exists in the middle east?
If you don't think oil is a finite resource about to go extinct you need to do some more reading..Comment
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Damn if only Clinton were never elected, the USA would be a utopia by now.Originally posted by mrskin
Evidence once again of the dumbness of the average lefty....
Anyone who has studied economics can work out that China cannot sustain current growth into the extended future.
China's current GDP growth is merely an effect of China opening up some of its trade and modernising parts of its work force.
Population alone does not equate to power or development potential. 1 worker with 1 machine or 1 computer is 10 times more effective than 10 workers without any machines. The technological infrustructure and capability of America would take decades to develop in China.
In 20 years time or so oil will be more scarce than it is now, yet America will still have trillions of barrels in its reserve stockpiles. China will not.
I could go on and on but frankly im not getting paid to teach. Socialism does not work and it not only makes the rich poorer but it makes the poor poorer aswell.
And for all you tools out there that think that the democrats are responsible for the surpluses america received in the clinton era - go and study economics.
It was reagans tax cut implementations and economic policies that led to the economic growth during the clinton era, it takes years for economic benefits to sink in not months.
The current economic climate is as a result of clinton's poor economic management and his failure to properly track down terrorists and in particular bin laden.Comment
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Thanks, I thought oil grew on magical oil trees.Originally posted by Ironhorse
It will in 20 years..
If you don't think oil is a finite resource about to go extinct you need to do some more reading..
And if you think oil will only exist in the middle east in 20 years, you might want to do a bit of reading yourself
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...il-sands_x.htm
I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.Comment
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I have done extensive reading on this, and this is some of the most environmentally unfriendly way to extract a resource, not to mention so much more expensive and as I mentioned before..finite.Originally posted by BRISK
Thanks, I thought oil grew on magical oil trees.
And if you think oil will only exist in the middle east in 20 years, you might want to do a bit of reading yourself
http://www.usatoday.com/money/indust...il-sands_x.htm
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