This sucks dude, it happened to me once with a mobile phone, didn't send for 6 weeks, then I stated I would pay him a visit the item was there within 3 days..
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I design logo's.
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You're right I keep going away from the thread to do something else and I forgot that the agreement was the other way around. I really doesn't matter which way around the contract was and who the buyer/ seller was.Originally posted by psyko514
this has nothing to do with someone not paying for goods. are you even reading the post?
the seller listed an auction, he was paid, and he failed to deliver the goods. that is fraud. i've been in gobigtime's shoes many times. i've filed police reports and fbi internet fraud reports and i've received refunds or my goods 9 times out of 10.
i know what i'm talking about.
FYI I have worked in credit control and finance for quite a long time and used to deal with persuing people for simolar things on a daily basis.
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Originally posted by jimboc
You're right I keep going away from the thread to do something else and I forgot that the agreement was the other way around. I really doesn't matter which way around the contract was and who the buyer/ seller was.
FYI I have worked in credit control and finance for quite a long time and used to deal with persuing people for similar things on a daily basis. Comment
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i work for a visa. i know what i'm talking about concerning credit.Originally posted by jimboc
You're right I keep going away from the thread to do something else and I forgot that the agreement was the other way around. I really doesn't matter which way around the contract was and who the buyer/ seller was.
FYI I have worked in credit control and finance for quite a long time and used to deal with persuing people for simolar things on a daily basis.
this topic has nothing to do whatsoever with credit or financing.
nothing whatsoever.
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I am aware that it has nothing to do with finance, but it still isn't fraud.Originally posted by psyko514
i work for a visa. i know what i'm talking about concerning credit.
this topic has nothing to do whatsoever with credit or financing.
nothing whatsoever.
If you work for Visa, you will know the length of time that you are eligable for chargebacks for? and don't give me the US/UK bullshit because it's Visa international rules and they are standard. You can't look it up anywhere because they don't publish it. Comment
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Mmmm long silence......
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It depends on the type of chargeback you're doing. There are multiple different types of chargebacks (unrecognized charge, recurring charge, merchandise not received, credit not received, merchandise not as described, etc). typically, the time limit is 120 days and the merchant has 45 days to respond. in some cases, there's a 180 day limit.
i don't deal with chargebacks however, i deal with visa branch/customer support.
if you doubt my employment, i'll extend to you the same challenge i extend to everyone else. i'll give you my full name, the 1-800 # to contact me, my personal extension and my working hours and you can feel free to contact me.
i'm on a leave of absence until March 9th, however you can feel free to contact one of my co-workers who will gladly confirm i am indeed a visa employee and i am indeed on leave of absence.
and do not mistake my silence for ignorance. as unlikely as it may seem, i do have a life outside gfy.
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Charge Back, or go round and see him
Theiving hahahaha - sorry dude to hear you lost some hard earned cash.Comment
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Never answered. I live in California mostly.Originally posted by joseph4829
Has he ever answered the phone?
Also, where do you live?Comment
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Well.. I basically sent him this for now:
XXXXXXXX,
Well, at least I know you're getting the emails now.
Maybe there was some reason you didn't hit the reply button last night and you intend to reply to today.
The paypal payment for the item cleared on the 3rd.
You were notified of the cleared payment on the 6th.
I have sent you three messages asking for a tracking number or an update. February 12th, the 15th and the 16th - you have responded to none.
Today is February 17th.
If you do not contact me TODAY, I will be forced to pursue other options to get you to follow through on our contractual agreement.
These options may include:
- A report filed with the FBI online fraud division.
- A formal complaint filed with the Lewisville, Texas Police Department.
- A formal fraud report mailed to Ebay's legal department.
- A formal fraud report mailed to Paypal's legal department.
- A formal fraud report mailed to Comcast's legal department.
- Hiring a private investigator in your area to gather additional information.
- Taking appropriate legal action for this matter.
- And of course, a negative eBay feedback (which you can still avoid)
Your past feedback suggests that you are an honest guy, so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here and giving you all day today to contact me before exercising any of my options above.
But please understand this XXXXXXXX -- you are costing me money by delaying this shipment and not living up to the agreement here. I have a client waiting to receive this.
Additionally, if it's received DOA, not in the condition as advertised,
or not at all - I will be very upset.
Best Regards,
XXXXXXXX
So everyone check your email & if you see this email sitting in there
send me my fucking package
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Mmmm long silence......Originally posted by jimboc
Mmmm long silence......
asshat.
and i'm back to work on March 8th, not the 9th. my mistake.
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I believe you work for visa now. It will be interesting to find out what the local police say about it. I'm pretty sure they would only get involved if there was reason to believe fraud was involved or the person needed tracking down etc.
As he has the address already I think they will tell him to take legal advise. Hopefully we will find out.... Comment
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Like I've said, I've been caught in his exact same situation many times, and the cops have been very helpful.Originally posted by jimboc
I believe you work for visa now. It will be interesting to find out what the local police say about it. I'm pretty sure they would only get involved if there was reason to believe fraud was involved or the person needed tracking down etc.
As he has the address already I think they will tell him to take legal advise. Hopefully we will find out....
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here's what to do, call paypal and they'll put a freeze on the sellers account and then they have 5-7days to present a valid tracking number for the product if they don't then paypal will refund your money back from them. since they have access to that person CC and Checking account. I've done this to a few times already and have received the product or refund.
you have to do this within 30days though. don't listen to the people on here giving bad advice. let paypal dispute is for you they can get the money back faster without causing yourself more headaches and problems.Comment
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Originally posted by integrated
technically speaking ebay did not scam you so your comments are LIBEL
just a thought
accurately speaking
the tread title is "Scammed on Ebay what can I do?"
It doesn't read Scammed by Ebay what can I do?
just an observation
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Originally posted by acctman
here's what to do, call paypal and they'll put a freeze on the sellers account and then they have 5-7days to present a valid tracking number for the product if they don't then paypal will refund your money back from them. since they have access to that person CC and Checking account. I've done this to a few times already and have received the product or refund.
Cool... still well within 30 days.
If he doesn't respond tomorrow, I'll definitely pursue the other options.Comment
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Is he a member of this board?So everyone check your email & if you see this email sitting in there send me my fucking package.Joe, Master Web Developer, ICQ: 280 889 133
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Originally posted by joseph4829
Is he a member of this board?
I doubt it.
But wouldn't it be funny if he were?
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Do you mind if I use a modified version of this? I'm having a similar problem and if I don't hear anything for a few days, this may come in handy. I can't afford to throw away $889 for no reason.Originally posted by goBigtime
Well.. I basically sent him this for now:
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np.. have at itOriginally posted by dodint
Do you mind if I use a modified version of this? I'm having a similar problem and if I don't hear anything for a few days, this may come in handy. I can't afford to throw away $889 for no reason.
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Great.
I'd write my own, but yours is so damn comprehensive why bother.
WHOA
Just noticed the Vic-20. How much?
Are you going to Philly Classic?Comment
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FOLLOW UP:
Subject: Shipment Notification from The UPS Store #4738
A carrier shipping label has been generated for the shipment to XXXXXXX and is awaiting carrier pickup. It will be picked up by UPS on Tuesday, February 17, 2004
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try calling them and paypal - paypal will handle it.ICQ#: 153923840Comment
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For reference, in case this happens again to any of you...
eBay pretty much has a non-existant privacy policy, if you scam someone on eBay, all you need to do ask ask your local police department to send a fax to eBay asking for information on the party that scammed you.
"One fax to eBay from a lawman - police investigator, NSA, FBI or CIA employee, National Park ranger - and eBay sends back the user's full name, email address, home address, mailing address, home telephone number, name of company where seller is employed and user nickname. What's more, eBay will send the history of items they have browsed, feedbacks received, bids they have made, prices they have paid, and even messages sent in the site's various discussion groups."
All of this without a subpoena.
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pa...&listSrc=Y8/03
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That is what I would do, well something similar.Originally posted by goBigtime
Legally I could ask a few bikers in his home town to drive their choppers up to his doorstep at 3am & ask him what the fucking problem is.
That's a bit of a pain in the ass for this amount though.
Maybe just a couple choppers.
Would get your money back and maybe he'd think twice before pulling such a stunt again.
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Btw... he STILL never actually RESPONDED or appologized for the delay or lack of (any) communication.
After sending him the email above, he just entered my email address online when creasting the UPS pick up request & it kicks out an email to me.
Worst ebay transaction ever.Comment
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