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  • 12clicks
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    • Jan 2001
    • 19814

    #1

    So many people saying their goodbyes to this biz

    There's been a lot lately. Has biz really gotten that tough?
    I always predicted that someday the middle would be squeezed out of the industry and we'd be left with operators and college punks.
    Are we getting closer to that point?
    I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.
  • BradShaw
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    • Oct 2001
    • 7840

    #2
    I would really like to say my good byes to be honest. Leave with a full wallet and double birds flying. But 2003 was my best year, and 2004 is just too much $ to walk away from. Opportunities like this may one come once in a lifetime.
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    • dantheman
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      • May 2002
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      #3
      I've saw a few go away that surprised me kinda, but it's like any other business, over come and adapt
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      • Donny
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        • May 2002
        • 13754

        #4
        I am happy to see them go. The amount of webmasters and wannabe's in this biz needs to be drastically reduced.

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        • 12clicks
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          • Jan 2001
          • 19814

          #5
          Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
          I am happy to see them go. The amount of webmasters and wannabe's in this biz needs to be drastically reduced.
          ahhh, but you see, the middle guys are the guys we want. The rabble beer money makers are what we'll be left with.
          I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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          • funkmaster
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            • Sep 2001
            • 7938

            #6
            ... wait until the remaining 4 ISPS's will go bottom up, 99% of those little webmaster programs won't be able to organise their processing.


            I am looking forward to that !!!

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            • Mr.Fiction
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              • Feb 2002
              • 9484

              #7
              It's so cheap to get into the online adult industry that new small webmasters will keep coming.
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              • Turboface
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                • Mar 2002
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                #8
                Originally posted by 12clicks
                The rabble beer money makers are what we'll be left with.
                But I drink a lot of beer.

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                • 12clicks
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                  • Jan 2001
                  • 19814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Turboface


                  But I drink a lot of beer.

                  yeah but 3 joins = a keg of pabst.
                  I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                  • Xenophage
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                    • Oct 2001
                    • 12122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BradShaw
                    I would really like to say my good byes to be honest. Leave with a full wallet and double birds flying. But 2003 was my best year, and 2004 is just too much $ to walk away from. Opportunities like this may one come once in a lifetime.
                    yup I agree with this

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                    • dantheman
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                      • May 2002
                      • 3308

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 12clicks


                      yeah but 3 joins = a keg of pabst.
                      shit 3 joins=keg and bag
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                      • BradShaw
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                        • Oct 2001
                        • 7840

                        #12
                        Originally posted by funkmaster
                        ... wait until the remaining 4 ISPS's will go bottom up, 99% of those little webmaster programs won't be able to organise their processing.


                        I am looking forward to that !!!

                        When that day happens, I will gladly retire. But I think we are 18-24+ months from then.
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                        • slapass
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #13
                          I think it has gotten stronger. Everyone I talk to is making huge bank.

                          Huge bank = top 1% of all wage earners. So not Quiet or Sleazy level buts lots of high middle class webmasters.

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                          • dantheman
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                            • May 2002
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                            #14
                            fuck, save some for hosting

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                            • IPK
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 4209

                              #15
                              yeah i'd like to say goodbye and retire at 24
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                              • 12clicks
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                                • Jan 2001
                                • 19814

                                #16
                                Originally posted by slapass
                                I think it has gotten stronger. Everyone I talk to is making huge bank.

                                Huge bank = top 1% of all wage earners. So not Quiet or Sleazy level buts lots of high middle class webmasters.
                                Everyone you talk to is talking huge smack.
                                I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                • Xenophage
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                                  • Oct 2001
                                  • 12122

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 12clicks


                                  Everyone you talk to is talking huge smack.
                                  YUP

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                                  • eroswebmaster
                                    March 1st, 2003
                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 20295

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by 12clicks


                                    Everyone you talk to is talking huge smack.
                                    would have to agree with this...it's become quite apparent to me this last year and a half that people are NOT making as much money as others think they are.
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                                    • Winterverse
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                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 278

                                      #19
                                      How could you go do anything else after this? Your own hours, all the money you can grab.

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                                      • Basic_man
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                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 27360

                                        #20
                                        Okay, bye bye, I'm making cash and i'm happy!
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                                        • Toolshed
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                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 59

                                          #21
                                          as a middle guy, I can honestly say I think/dream of leaving this biz every waking minute of my day. I have no inherent love for this industry. I don't even like porn. And there are roughly 5 million other things I'd rather be doing.

                                          but alas, bills must be paid. And escape is not forthcoming any time soon.

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                                          • BradShaw
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                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 7840

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Winterverse
                                            How could you go do anything else after this? Your own hours, all the money you can grab.

                                            I like new challenges. Also, my ADD kicks in.
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                                            • BradShaw
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                                              • Oct 2001
                                              • 7840

                                              #23
                                              I have no inherent love for this industry. I don't even like porn. And there are roughly 5 million other things I'd rather be doing.

                                              I agree. I have met a several good friends, and business people in this business. But overall, this industry attracts idiots with more issues than Readers Digest.
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                                              • KRL
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                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                #24
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                                                • TheJimmy
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                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                  • 10747

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Winterverse
                                                  How could you go do anything else after this? Your own hours, all the money you can grab.

                                                  this can be done in other industries as well...


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                                                  • Theo
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                                                    • May 2001
                                                    • 34515

                                                    #26
                                                    More people will go through time. Sponsors now have started generating their own traffic streams and things get more competitive every day.



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                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 16015

                                                      #27
                                                      Does anyone really care?

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                                                      • BradShaw
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                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 7840

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim
                                                        Does anyone really care?

                                                        I thought you retired?
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                                                        • p1mpdogg
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                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                          • 16714

                                                          #29
                                                          as I said before... the old timers are headed out and fresh blood is coming in with bigger and better ideas.. fresh and motivated..


                                                          look at brad shaw, he is all washed up, when is the last time he came out with anything new? a 'reality' site? lol

                                                          same goes with 80% of the programs, they have lost either the ability to to grow(no great ideas) or just simply lost the initiative..

                                                          thats great, I cant wait till the old timers get the fuck out, cause I will be right there at the top once they are gone.

                                                          eat your heart out brad and 12clicks.
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                                                          • Toolshed
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Dec 2003
                                                            • 59

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                            as I said before... the old timers are headed out and fresh blood is coming in with bigger and better ideas.. fresh and motivated..


                                                            look at brad shaw, he is all washed up, when is the last time he came out with anything new? a 'reality' site? lol

                                                            same goes with 80% of the programs, they have lost either the ability to to grow(no great ideas) or just simply lost the initiative..

                                                            thats great, I cant wait till the old timers get the fuck out, cause I will be right there at the top once they are gone.

                                                            eat your heart out brad and 12clicks.
                                                            lol

                                                            you are a tool. You have a flock of newbs chasing you so you think yourself some kind of player.

                                                            The chance of you ever having the respect of anyone that matters is nil.

                                                            Your mouth constantly writes checks your ass can't cash.

                                                            You have always been, and always will be, a joke in this business.

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                                                            • p1mpdogg
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                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                              • 16714

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Toolshed


                                                              lol

                                                              you are a tool. You have a flock of newbs chasing you so you think yourself some kind of player.

                                                              The chance of you ever having the respect of anyone that matters is nil.

                                                              Your mouth constantly writes checks your ass can't cash.

                                                              You have always been, and always will be, a joke in this business.
                                                              Since when does anyone need respect in any business to be successful?

                                                              I have never claimed to be a player by anymeans... Im not into these status games you clowns play.

                                                              I might be a joke to you, but the guys cashing my checks sure seem to take me seriously
                                                              Your mouth constantly writes checks your ass can't cash.
                                                              care to back that up?
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                                                              • Maximillion
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                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 795

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                Too many people still working with torn maps and hand shovels trying to find the treasure. You need GPS navigation and earth penetrating radar to succeed in today's market.

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                                                                • WiredGuy
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 34515

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I would like to see a reduction in the amount of webmasters actually, no offense to the smaller guys.

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                                                                  • NaughtyJenn
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                                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                                    • 7355

                                                                    #34
                                                                    noticed the same trend, sad to see 420 leave but hes off to do bigger and better things

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                                                                    • BradShaw
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                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7840

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                      I would like to see a reduction in the amount of webmasters actually, no offense to the smaller guys.

                                                                      WG

                                                                      I would like a man boob reduction and a tummy tuck while you are at it.
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                                                                      • Mr Pheer
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                                                                        • Dec 2002
                                                                        • 22082

                                                                        #36
                                                                        most people have high expectations and then realize that it takes work, and you cant just copy everyone else and make it big.. you gotta be a constant innovator to succeed, and be somewhat of a leader, able to push yourself to get what you want

                                                                        the truth is that most people are not leaders and dont even know what they want, and damn sure dont have the motivation to work for it

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                                                                        • Kimmykim
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                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 16015

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by BradShaw



                                                                          I thought you retired?
                                                                          I sell processing, not porn ;)

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                                                                          • 12clicks
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                            • 19814

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by p1mpdogg
                                                                            as I said before... the old timers are headed out and fresh blood is coming in with bigger and better ideas.. fresh and motivated..


                                                                            look at brad shaw, he is all washed up, when is the last time he came out with anything new? a 'reality' site? lol

                                                                            same goes with 80% of the programs, they have lost either the ability to to grow(no great ideas) or just simply lost the initiative..

                                                                            thats great, I cant wait till the old timers get the fuck out, cause I will be right there at the top once they are gone.

                                                                            eat your heart out brad and 12clicks.
                                                                            I guess the small timers of this year need to believe this to keep from slashing their wrists.
                                                                            I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                            • NBDesign
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                                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                                              #39
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by 12clicks
                                                                                There's been a lot lately. Has biz really gotten that tough?
                                                                                I always predicted that someday the middle would be squeezed out of the industry and we'd be left with operators and college punks.
                                                                                Are we getting closer to that point?
                                                                                Although it occurs at less than 1:1000, some of today's college "punks" will become tommorow's "operators"

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                                                                                • mindoza
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                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                  • 1625

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  it seems to me that no publicity is bad pubicity and all these people that talk shit about pimpdog is just making pimp and his posse more popular. So do you realy hate him or do you Envy him, maybe he goes about it in a crude rude way but like he says the person cashing his paychecks is not laughing at him..and by the way i do not even know who pimdog is and i would not know who he is if you guys did not make him so popular
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                                                                                  • WiredGuy
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                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                    • 34515

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by BradShaw
                                                                                    I would like a man boob reduction and a tummy tuck while you are at it.
                                                                                    I play with Google.

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                                                                                    • cocky
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                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 2044

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by slapass
                                                                                      I think it has gotten stronger. Everyone I talk to is making huge bank.

                                                                                      Huge bank = top 1% of all wage earners. So not Quiet or Sleazy level buts lots of high middle class webmasters.
                                                                                      I don't see very many posting proof. Probably just talking trash. This business can be up and down and I question getting a real job everyday.
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                                                                                      • 12clicks
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Jan 2001
                                                                                        • 19814

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                                                        noticed the same trend, sad to see 420 leave but hes off to do bigger and better things
                                                                                        Not dig420?
                                                                                        I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                        • p1mpdogg
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                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 16714

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by mindoza
                                                                                          it seems to me that no publicity is bad pubicity and all these people that talk shit about pimpdog is just making pimp and his posse more popular. So do you realy hate him or do you Envy him, maybe he goes about it in a crude rude way but like he says the person cashing his paychecks is not laughing at him..and by the way i do not even know who pimdog is and i would not know who he is if you guys did not make him so popular
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                                                                                          • tony299
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                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 57021

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by BradShaw



                                                                                            I agree. I have met a several good friends, and business people in this business. But overall, this industry attracts idiots with more issues than Readers Digest.
                                                                                            You can say that again, flakes , story tellers and weirdos lol. Also 12 clicks I promise I will never go away

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                                                                                            • 12clicks
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                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                              • 19814

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by mindoza
                                                                                              it seems to me that no publicity is bad pubicity and all these people that talk shit about pimpdog is just making pimp and his posse more popular. So do you realy hate him or do you Envy him, maybe he goes about it in a crude rude way but like he says the person cashing his paychecks is not laughing at him..and by the way i do not even know who pimdog is and i would not know who he is if you guys did not make him so popular
                                                                                              to be king of the rabble is not something I aspire to.
                                                                                              I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

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                                                                                              • GeXus
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                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                • 3320

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Maybe people are simply moving on to bigger and better things.. Sure there is TONS of room to expand and alot of untaped ideas in this industry, but there is also alot outside of this industry as well.

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                                                                                                • JDog
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                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Yea, I've noticed a lot of people leaving! I don't think it's all about biz, maybe a few tho!

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                                                                                                  • Stephen
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I agree. I have met a several good friends, and business people in this business. But overall, this industry attracts idiots with more issues than Readers Digest.
                                                                                                    Amen.

                                                                                                    Too many people still working with torn maps and hand shovels trying to find the treasure. You need GPS navigation and earth penetrating radar to succeed in today's market.
                                                                                                    Interesting analogy: besides working in the XBiz, my "other" life is gold prospecting up here in the mountains of sunny California, and exploring the use of satellite and GPS technology to find alluvial gold deposits. If I spent as much time in the field as I do in front of the box, I'd be getting more excercise, and making as much money.

                                                                                                    Still, I'm air conditioned here, and fairly free of the risk of having a 120lb mountain lion leap on my head while sitting at my desk...

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