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Old 09-28-2004, 02:49 PM  
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Well...as I have pointed out and as you have chosen to ignore...that "international community" viewed Iraq as being a threat for 12 years...thus the sanctions (that may have caused the death of up to 1,000,000 "innocent" Iraqi's) and the 17 Resolutions imposed against Iraq by the UN.

That is a loss of approximately 80,000 "innocent" Iraqi lives per year caused by the the UN. Since the invasion the US has convinced the UN to drop the sanctions...and if the loss of lives due to combat action on either side...falls short of about 80,000 per year (and at this point it is way below 80,000 per year) then in fact the invasion has thus far saved Iraqi lives.

There is currently more hospitals...with more medical equipment and supplies...pre invasion. There is currently more drinkable water in more locations than pre invasion... and as far as I know food is plentiful.

Thus I conclude that the Iraqi people owe the US much gratitude for saving them from the yoke the UN had imposed upon them.
What an absolute perverson of reality you got King..

I really can't be bother answering this - it's just too weird. Did you say you live in the US? That's part of this world. The shit you say is something that is not of this world.

FIRST - Who was the prime promoter of "sanctions"??

The US. This the the standard US tool for everything - stuff countries on sanction lists. The US was actually the main advocate of sanctions - and still is, not only at the UN over Iraq, but every other damned place. Check your "State Department".

Various moves at the UN to remove these sanctions, for exactly the reasons you stated, were constantly blocked by the US (as is the custom!)

Iraq has absolutely nothing to thank the US for in the area of sanctions. It was the US who instigated these sanctions at the UN.

BTW.. It was also the US who instigated these "no fly zones". They had no legal status under international law. Someone just decided we are going to have "no fly zones". Why does it matter if Iraq "violated" something that had no standing in the first place?

SECOND - All this abundance of food, hospitals, medical equipment is ... just ridiculous.

Even your own government (tho not the Admin) had to admit there is still a massive problem and only a minor fraction of the so-called US Aid has been spent there and it now being diverted to bombing the shit of of the place.

As for water - that is the most common complaint in Iraq - along with lack of power. Both these items comprise the biggest area of complaints.

SUMMARY - If you even remotely thinking that the Iraq people have some "gratitude" to the US for this fuckup - you are seriously mentally ill.

The US has actually done amazingly little in Iraq - not even reached a point of restoring the damage of the bombs you dropped there.

WTF are you talking about??? Duh?

It is little surprise the Iraqis want to kill US people in Iraq and why they "hate" them. Or are you too dumbe to understand?

That "line" you presented is completly in line with the propaganda of the US rogue state admin. More lying.. pity you actually seem to believe it.

The US will be outta Iraq shortly. It helps avoid the costs of restoration and is in keeping with the other "exit strategies" in previous adventures. What's different this time?



PS:

BTW.. When is the US actually going to agree to the Land Mine Treaty? Every country has subscribed to this and is actively "doing something" while the US still moans and complains.

What possible reason is there for the US not to remove it's old scrap metal from countries where it is killing innocent people daily?

The answer? Greed and selfishness. The US has laid more of this shit around the world than anyone and it would cost money to remove/diffuse these land mines. I'm all right Jack - fuck the kids that get killed by your mines, - they don't matter.

This is the country with "high moral values" - they clearly are not the "high moral values" of the rest of the world. They stink.
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