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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429

    #1

    Wow! Ireland Begins Blocking Direct Calls To Entire Countries

    This is to shut down Dialer companies apparently.


    DUBLIN, Ireland - Ireland has become the first country on earth to cut off direct-dialed calls to entire nations in a bid to crack down on Internet-based fraud.

    The crackdown, announced this week and due to come into force Oct. 4, will block calls to 13 locations ? all but one of them far-flung islands ? to deter fraudsters from breaking into people's computers and hijacking their modems for profit.

    The government-appointed Commission for Communications Regulation said it was obliged to act after receiving more than 300 complaints this year from Internet users who discovered that their connections had been altered without their knowledge ? with financially disastrous results.

    "These people found out only when they got their telephone bill, which might normally be 80 euros ($100), and found out this time it was 780 euros ($1,000)," the commission's spokesman, Tom Butler, said in an interview Thursday.

    He said the biggest ripoffs reported so far were two businesses that unwittingly ran up connection costs of around $15,000 and $22,000 respectively. All the victims were users of dial-up modems.

    The racket often works like this: The Internet con artist bombards computers with an annoying pop-up message asking a question unrelated to modem use. The computer user clicks "yes" to get rid of it ? and thereby let a so-called "trojan" virus into the computer. The virus then reroutes the computer's dial-up connection to the distant island.

    A connection that costs just cents in Ireland is transformed to $4 to $7.50 a minute, with the fraudster taking a cut of the charge. The fraudsters use remote islands, regulators say, because they typically attract the most expensive international call rates.

    The commission had a four-month consultation with Internet service providers, phone companies and ripped-off customers before making its decision. During the talks, Ireland's phone companies refused to reimburse any of the customers.

    The places facing cutoff are mostly in the South Pacific: the Cook Islands, French Polynesia, Nauru, Norfolk Island, the Solomon Islands, Tokelau, Tuvalu, and Wallis and Fortuna.

    But they also include the West African nation of Mauritania, Sao Tome and Principe off the Atlantic coast of West Africa and the Comoros islands and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean.

    Butler said the commission would review whether to remove or add nations to the cut-off list in six months.

    He stressed that legitimate calls to each of the 13 locations would be allowed through, but only with operator assistance.

    The commission's order, which has been accepted by telephone companies, will require operators to verify whether each call is to a bona-fide voice line, not a fee-collecting machine. Each legitimate number will be allowed to resume receiving direct-dialed calls from Ireland.

    In addition, Butler said one of the affected territories, the Cook Islands, had already contacted regulators to say it planned to provide a list of legitimate phone numbers. These numbers ? a so-called "white list" ? might receive accelerated approval for direct-dial services, he said.
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  • polish_aristocrat
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2002
    • 40377

    #2
    Poland did ( or was considering, but I think they did ) something similar few years ago...
    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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    • KRL
      Entrepreneur
      • Oct 2002
      • 31429

      #3
      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
      Poland did ( or was considering, but I think they did ) something similar few years ago...
      If the US does this there go the Dialer scams.
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      • BRISK
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Feb 2003
        • 12240

        #4
        At least the countries on the black list are just small countries in the south pacific and west africa, it sucks to have to use operator assistance, but it's not like people will be making that many calls to those countries anyway
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        • Fake Nick
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jul 2004
          • 7708

          #5
          Originally posted by KRL


          But they also include the West African nation of Mauritania,.

          lloll! ! I am from Mauritania ! so If I would live in Ireland I wouldn't be able to call relatives who still live there at all ??

          that's just bullshit ! I also do no think it is legal to do this .

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          • Fake Nick
            So Fucking Banned
            • Jul 2004
            • 7708

            #6
            Originally posted by BRISK
            At least the countries on the black list are just small countries in the south pacific and west africa, it sucks to have to use operator assistance, but it's not like people will be making that many calls to those countries anyway

            thats not true , Mauritania is a huge country ;) and has nearly 3 000 000 people living there

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            • BRISK
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Feb 2003
              • 12240

              #7
              Originally posted by Fake Nick
              lloll! ! I am from Mauritania ! so If I would live in Ireland I wouldn't be able to call relatives who still live there at all ??

              that's just bullshit ! I also do no think it is legal to do this .
              no, people in Ireland can call anywhere, just certain countries will require opreators to put the call through manually

              read the article
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              • Pleasurepays
                BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                • Aug 2002
                • 11913

                #8
                if we have a nuclear war tomorrow, i think only cockroaches and dialers will survive.

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                • KRL
                  Entrepreneur
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 31429

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BRISK
                  At least the countries on the black list are just small countries in the south pacific and west africa, it sucks to have to use operator assistance, but it's not like people will be making that many calls to those countries anyway
                  Yeh, they are insignifcant countries to everyone except the Dialer companies and pay-per-call companies who use these countries extensively.
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                  • BRISK
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 12240

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fake Nick
                    thats not true , Mauritania is a huge country ;) and has nearly 3 000 000 people living there
                    Yes, I'm sure there are thousands of legitimate calls from Ireland to Mauritania every day
                    I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
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                    • Fake Nick
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 7708

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KRL
                      Yeh, they are insignifcant countries to everyone except the Dialer companies and pay-per-call companies who use these countries extensively.

                      the coast line of mauritania has the richest fishing area of the world

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                      • BRISK
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12240

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fake Nick
                        the coast line of mauritania has the richest fishing area of the world
                        "fishing", is that what they're calling dialer scams down there these days?
                        I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                        I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                        • Paul
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 2637

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BRISK
                          Yes, I'm sure there are thousands of legitimate calls from Ireland to Mauritania every day


                          Originally posted by BRISK
                          "fishing", is that what they're calling dialer scams down there these days?
                          Bahahaha !!!

                          If it helps curve the amount of dialer scams and people getting fucked over then I see this as a good thing The positives would seem to far outway the negatives of this new law

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                          • mardigras
                            Bon temps!
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 14194

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BRISK
                            "fishing", is that what they're calling dialer scams down there these days?
                            Maybe he meant phishing
                            .

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                            • korzon
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 1524

                              #15
                              wow that is a huge step to take!

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                              • jimmyf
                                OU812
                                • Feb 2001
                                • 12651

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mardigras
                                Maybe he meant phishing
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                                • GTS Mark
                                  Vrume Mark
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 20912

                                  #17
                                  I don't blame the Irish for doing this, that lost money to dialers could have gone towards more beer!!!

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