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Tech Help Needed

02-14-2004, 03:09 AM

Help!!!!

My hard drive is rapidly dying on me, I've had a new drive installed as the D drive, how do I make the new drive the main one? (does that make any sense ?)

Please help, I wouldn't be too worried but my laptop has gone belly up this week as well

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02-14-2004, 03:12 AM

Bios setup is the answer
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02-14-2004, 03:16 AM

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02-14-2004, 03:21 AM

Originally posted by PiMpIn-4-LiFe
NOW SEE HERE IS A STUPID BITCH. SHE COMES ON A PORN WEBMASTER BOARD SAYING "My hard drive is rapidly dying on me"
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how about leaving the board ?
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02-14-2004, 03:24 AM

good question, but i don;t know the answer. I wish i did

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02-14-2004, 03:24 AM

HOW ABOUT YOU STOP BITEING MY COCK WHEN YOU SUCK IT THAT SHIT HURTS NIGGA...
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02-14-2004, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by sexsup
Bios setup is the answer

Could you point me in the right direction to find info on how to do this?

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02-14-2004, 03:27 AM

some info

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02-14-2004, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by broke
some info

Brilliant - thank you

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02-14-2004, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by sexsup
Bios setup is the answer

no. if you have 2 drives... 1 is your master, and the other is a slave. you need to take the master which im assuming is your problem out, move the slave to where the master is now, put a operating system on it, and joila.

you might want to back everything up first though.
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02-14-2004, 06:29 AM

if i were you, id swich the drives for master and promary, load an OS, copy all yor docs and stuff over from the dying drive, then chuck the old drive
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02-14-2004, 06:32 AM

the jumpers in the back of the hard drive,
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02-14-2004, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Chaldoray
the jumpers in the back of the hard drive,
hit me up on icq at 237842929

My ICQ won't work at the moment

So far this is what I *think* I need to do, can anyone tell me if this is right or not please?

unplug everything
unscrew case
2 drives in there, a switch on them both, they need to be re-set from primary to slave and vice versa (I'm hoping there is something on there that shows what I need to do!)
power up, insert the OS discs and load windows
copy all files from D to the new C

will this work or will I kill my puter?

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02-14-2004, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by kelly

My ICQ won't work at the moment

So far this is what I *think* I need to do, can anyone tell me if this is right or not please?

unplug everything
unscrew case
2 drives in there, a switch on them both, they need to be re-set from primary to slave and vice versa (I'm hoping there is something on there that shows what I need to do!)
power up, insert the OS discs and load windows
copy all files from D to the new C

will this work or will I kill my puter?

sounds right, older computers you have to change the jumpers (on the back of the hd) to change from primary to secondary (slave)

best of luck hun
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02-14-2004, 07:01 AM

Originally posted by NaughtyJenn

sounds right, older computers you have to change the jumpers (on the back of the hd) to change from primary to secondary (slave)

best of luck hun

Thanks Jenn, normally I'd just open it up and try anything, but with my laptop being buggered I'm scared stiff of being left with no connection at all!

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02-14-2004, 07:47 AM

Chances are, if neither drive has been tampered with, they're set to 'cable select' as far as jumpers go, in which case you just need to switch the wide grey cables plugged into each drive, and then reboot. if that doesn't work, beside where those cables plugin, there's two rows of pins, with a plastic 'jumper' on them, you'll have to consult the docs for your hd to figure out how that jumper needs to be on there, but you should set them on cable select, and make sure that the one you want as the 'main' drive is plugged into where your old drive originally was. hope that makes sense, and good luck.
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02-14-2004, 07:58 AM

Originally posted by Intrigue
Chances are, if neither drive has been tampered with, they're set to 'cable select' as far as jumpers go, in which case you just need to switch the wide grey cables plugged into each drive, and then reboot. if that doesn't work, beside where those cables plugin, there's two rows of pins, with a plastic 'jumper' on them, you'll have to consult the docs for your hd to figure out how that jumper needs to be on there, but you should set them on cable select, and make sure that the one you want as the 'main' drive is plugged into where your old drive originally was. hope that makes sense, and good luck.

Thanks Brandon, I'm waiting for my tractor to be returned (my toolbox is in it lol) and then I'll be opening up the case for the first time and crossing my fingers, I'm praying that everything is well labelled!

When my puter first starts up it says that I have a primary and slave I really hope that they're labelled that way inside

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02-14-2004, 08:06 AM

No they're not labeled as such your new drive should of had a plug on the pins.

Usually its on something called cable select, this means if you want the new drive to be the master then unplug the current one and replace it, this should swap them over, but you may then have problems with windows as the new drive as the master will not carry the operating system.

I may be wrong.

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02-14-2004, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by txtbill
No they're not labeled as such your new drive should of had a plug on the pins.

Usually its on something called cable select, this means if you want the new drive to be the master then unplug the current one and replace it, this should swap them over, but you may then have problems with windows as the new drive as the master will not carry the operating system.

I may be wrong.

Damn, now I'm confused, could you give me an idiot's walkthrough for this please?

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02-14-2004, 09:10 AM

No Problem !

The best thing going for drives is Partition Magic from Power Quest, The have saved me from losing all from a 40 gig western digital and got back all the (I thought )lost data on an old Maxtor.
It (the software) allows you to set active,hide, resize, convert NTFS 2 fat 2 fat32 etc. mount backup partition. Name it! they also have rescue disk s that you make with 2 floppies that have a win98 type GUI, THESE HAVE ALSO COVERED MY A**.
I can't tell you enough about this all in W-one-der.
Oh it also comes with boot magic to use multiple OS's.
I rarely buy commercial software but this is" all that ".
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02-14-2004, 09:18 AM

Kelly I can walk you through the whole procedure to swap drives if you want I have 25 years experience as a licensed MSEE,
you can call or email or icq I also have some info on low level formatting and other esoteric details like which pin the jumper goes on , how to get into the BIOS etc.
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02-14-2004, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by kelly

Thanks Jenn, normally I'd just open it up and try anything, but with my laptop being buggered I'm scared stiff of being left with no connection at all!
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02-14-2004, 09:27 AM

Actually ther are two IDE connectors on your mother board.
Primary and Secondary
Each has a slave and Master Capability This will allow a total of 4 drives. You definately DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE HDD JUMPERS ON CS (cable select) In this mode the OS(operating system) will seek out the disk with the most currently used valid bootcfg.
failing this it will go to the primary master first and look for a sector 63 boot log if it finds one it will boot it. I'm not a very good typist And there are some details that may need a diagram could I maybe FAX you or ?
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02-14-2004, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by kelly
Help!!!!

My hard drive is rapidly dying on me, I've had a new drive installed as the D drive, how do I make the new drive the main one? (does that make any sense ?)

Please help, I wouldn't be too worried but my laptop has gone belly up this week as well

Hi Kelly,

If you have a new HD drive installed, you may want to check the contents of the box. Many drive manufacturers include utility proggies which can help copy the data from one drive to another.

They will also give you jumper settings fro setting up primary and secondary; if you are able to access both drives now then you are set to do the data transfer. You will just need to change the jumper settings after you've copied and verified the transfer.

Hope it helps.
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02-14-2004, 10:20 AM

there is a very simple procedure for this.

1) remove old drive, set it aside carefully.

2) install new drive, ensuring that it is set to primary master drive (or in the case of western digital drives, "single drive").

3) install OS, programs, etc on new drive.

4) add old drive back into system, ensuring it's a slave device (it would be preferrable to add this drive to a secondary channel, instead of being on the same cable as the primary drive). boot up the new system and copy your necessary files over. do not copy over your windows system files from the old drive however, you're better off keeping the newer files from the fresh install.

you're done.

don't rely on 'cable select' - depending on the hardware it may not even work, and at best it can be relatively unreliable. it's the lazy person's way of making things work. always set your drives to master or slave.

if it is a western digital drive, pay close attention to settings for "single drive". if it is the only drive on the channel, and you set it to master or slave, the drive will not be found by the system - only if it is set to 'single drive'.

MOST modern drives have the full jumper settings on the case of the drive.

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02-14-2004, 10:58 AM

here is the real answer.

1. turn your computer off

2. put it in the car just the box not the monitor.

3. take it to a tech that knows what he's doing.

4. pay him to fix it

Its that easy

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