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Old 01-28-2002, 03:47 PM  
The Hun
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I can't believe how low some paysites seem to think of themselves if they believe sites like mine are giving away the cow and trying to sell the milk. Come 'on! Look at my site. Sure, nice galleries, but mixed, ads with 'em, different resolution pics, movies, but no life chat, no huge series... A good paysite has a superiour content compared to my site, and I'm one of the most surfer-friendly sites out there. Why else would you think paysites would advertise on my site. And with success I read elsewhere on this board.

Now we could start the whole story from scratch again with the expamples of the food courst at the sawgrass mall in Miami, but let's not do that. Link-sites are not giving away the cow. If they'd do that they would kill themselves in bandwidth. It's weird to see people whine on and one about free content, while good free content is harder to find these days then let's say 5 years back... and conversions are worse! A free site could never offer what a paysite can. It's up to the paysites to show that to people. But I very much doubt console loops, 6 dollar dialers and blind ads are prooving that to people.

This discussion has been up and going for a couple of years now. Two years ago people predicted my site would be gone by the end of that year... well... check sextracker. Unless they haven't updated their site for 2 years I'm still alive and kicking. And trust me, I will be for a long time? Why? 'cause I treat my visitors with respect. And I make sure not to link to dialer traps and console hells so when they see a banner they like and click it they actually feel tempted to sign up. Might not happen the first time they see it, might not happen the second time. But build trust and people will buy. Look at amateur pages. They have cancellation buttons all over their page so when people sign up they can easily cancle if they want to. Why? To build trust. Ask Lensman, he'll second it. They're going for the long run. And that's where the money is. Kimmykim, you should know that.

Also, that salesman sold you something you gain nothing by. They know the cost for extra warrenty is about 50 USD (that's how much the item you bought breaks down AND is returned for the warrenty), that's a well know fact. Anyway, would you still buy if that same salesperson started showing you every damn item in his show? Would you still buy if he started showing you around in the neighbor's shop? You showed interest. You bought and so he showed some more available options. Just like any good paysite would offer. But let's assume you wouldn't be interested and the salesman would keep on nagging you with more commercial talk. I think you would be pissed off especially when you very clearly didn't want to buy as you walked out of the shop...

Many people fail to see how a market, any market for that matter - Internet or "real world" - works. We're selling a product to customers. Our goal is not to get 'em to the sponsors, it's to show 'em a product they're interested in so they'll buy. Try to put yourself in the surfer's shoes for a change. Just give a fair answer to yourself: would you buy a product if it would spam the shit out of you?
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