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Old 09-12-2004, 10:52 PM  
Ironhorse
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Originally posted by CamChicks
A group of individuals locked this person up; not a "country".
The fantasy is that the actions of individuals is somehow more.

I'm not suggesting people don't do shitty things to eachother, or that they don't do shitty things to eachother under the mass delusion of nationality or religion. I'm simply stating that it is infact a delusion; purely a product of imagination; a casual social agreement at best.

If America woke up tomorrow and decided not to listen to George W Bush anymore, the artifical position of power vanish. We wouldn't need an election, we could just stop pretending he's important. Same for any 'leader'. The people of Iraq could have just decided to stop obeying Saddam. If he ordered innocents killed, the would-be executioners could just say "no". If everyone just says "no" then what can one man rule alone? Right now every soldier in Iraq could just decide to stop fighting and there's nothing Bush could do about it. That's why "liberating" or "conquering" people is a flawed concept. People always live under their own will. When they stop agreeing to the game, the creation crumbles. Just because some guy moves into the big white house on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that doesn't make him your 'president'; you and everybody else within some imaginary lines drawn on the globe all deciding to obey him does.
Yeah this is great theory, but if some guy comes in your house, puts a gun to your head and says 'Suck my cock' will you try to dispell him by saying 'Wow what a powerful delusion this is' or kick his ass or die trying? I'll take the latter, thank you and advise you to do the same..
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