Looks like the 2257 will go in effect as it was outlined in 2 weeks.
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Not doubting you, but this thread is useless without a source, or link to a sourceOriginally posted by 4Pics
Looks like the 2257 will go in effect as it was outlined in 2 weeks.Comment
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Originally posted by spunky1
Link?No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers
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source=pics???Originally posted by BB-Rick
Not doubting you, but this thread is useless without a source, or link to a source
Hook 'em.Comment
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I am still too worried about CDA2 to worry about thisComment
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Why all the hype about 2257.
I must have missed something.
(like missing a train while standing ON the track, yes)
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Exactly,...where did this info come from?Originally posted by BB-Rick
Not doubting you, but this thread is useless without a source, or link to a sourceComment
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You're only fucked if you're unorganized and don't have a lawyer. Carry on then.Comment
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Im fucked? well damn better pack all my shit up now.
Fire sales anyone?Comment
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Come on.. I don't understand people. Give us a link or a news source.
It's like people telling you over the phone,
"Oh..I have something important to tell you but not right now.."
JUST DON'T FUCKING TELL ME YOU HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO TELL ME. Just wait until you see me..
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Originally posted by spunky1
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I still don't see how such a stupid fucking law can pass. I guess that Bush wants to knock down our economy from every angle.Comment
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Originally posted by spunky1
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Psst! it does not need to "pass".Originally posted by Slick
I still don't see how such a stupid fucking law can pass. I guess that Bush wants to knock down our economy from every angle.Comment
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bookmark this thread now, it should be one of the best for tonight.
Popcorn?Comment
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source will happen later, just wanted to post it first.Comment
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Has anyone actually seen the transcripts of the hearing? I've been searching for them on the gov site but they don't appear to be in the search results.Comment
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exactly . . . unless you hear otherwise the new regs go into effect on 9/24 . . . anyone waiting around isn't paying attentionOriginally posted by freeadultcontent
Psst! it does not need to "pass".Comment
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What exactly is the 2257??
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just comply and you've got nothing to worry about.Comment
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Why do you guys keep spitting lies and misleading stories...I'm not voting for John Kerry, hes not going to save porn, and George Bush isn't going to end porn, in fact, most of us, have been doing quite well these past couple years, I know I'm doing better :-) Wipe your ass with the 2257, its time to coninue to bankComment
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Lies and misleading stories? Ok the initial thread may be somewhat misleading.Originally posted by crowkid
Why do you guys keep spitting lies and misleading stories...I'm not voting for John Kerry, hes not going to save porn, and George Bush isn't going to end porn, in fact, most of us, have been doing quite well these past couple years, I know I'm doing better :-) Wipe your ass with the 2257, its time to coninue to bank
Kerry, Bush? Was this even brought up yet? Though when it has been we are just going by what history has taught us. Then again the vast majority were not around or do not even know about Myporn, the Meese commition, etc.
Hell for that matter most could not even tell you why Nora Louise Kuzma is the reason we have 2257, how it would not of even helped in that matter, let alone understand and comply with current regs.Comment
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First off the way it works from what I was told by my lawyer. Those are proposed regs until the final version is published then you have 30 days after that to comply. So 9/24 doesnt mean anything. Also How do you know what the DOJ is going to do , unless its in writing I am not believing.Comment
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30 days to comply after it is published in the register. I am also in the same camp. Until it is in the register I am not believing shit.Originally posted by tony404
First off the way it works from what I was told by my lawyer. Those are proposed regs until the final version is published then you have 30 days after that to comply. So 9/24 doesnt mean anything. Also How do you know what the DOJ is going to do , unless its in writing I am not believing.Comment
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Exactly, I won't believe it until I see the official notice.Originally posted by tony404
First off the way it works from what I was told by my lawyer. Those are proposed regs until the final version is published then you have 30 days after that to comply. So 9/24 doesnt mean anything. Also How do you know what the DOJ is going to do , unless its in writing I am not believing.Last edited by NoCarrier; 09-07-2004, 11:58 AM.
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its a numberOriginally posted by block
What exactly is the 2257??
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Glad to be Canadian at this point..Comment
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link?
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Are you also gonna host in Canada, use Canadian sponsors, and only target Canadian surfers, Oh and take payments only in Canadian Dollars, not to mention only Canadian Models?Originally posted by WarChild
Glad to be Canadian at this point.
You must understand that what effects the US market place has a direct restult on us. If the US programs and businesses comply you can be damn sure all the Canadian ones will be right behind.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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??Originally posted by LadyMischief
You're only fucked if you're unorganized and don't have a lawyer. Carry on then.
or you have non-hosted galleries from US sponsors ... if sponsors start asking affiliates to take those galleries down.. it could be a problem.. especially for galleries already submitted for paid spots...Comment
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Actually 9/24 will be the day its signed in some form, there's always a possibility it won't be, but since they had the hearing on time and all that good stuff, it's likely to happen.Originally posted by tony404
First off the way it works from what I was told by my lawyer. Those are proposed regs until the final version is published then you have 30 days after that to comply. So 9/24 doesnt mean anything. Also How do you know what the DOJ is going to do , unless its in writing I am not believing.
But that would make Oct 25 the big day in any case, not September.Comment
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No fed's are going to be busting through my door to check 2257 documentation. That's my point here.Originally posted by Jdoughs
Are you also gonna host in Canada, use Canadian sponsors, and only target Canadian surfers, Oh and take payments only in Canadian Dollars, not to mention only Canadian Models?
You must understand that what effects the US market place has a direct restult on us. If the US programs and businesses comply you can be damn sure all the Canadian ones will be right behind..Comment
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Canadians can use US hosting and US models and still wont have to comply with 2257...Originally posted by Jdoughs
Are you also gonna host in Canada, use Canadian sponsors, and only target Canadian surfers, Oh and take payments only in Canadian Dollars, not to mention only Canadian Models?
You must understand that what effects the US market place has a direct restult on us. If the US programs and businesses comply you can be damn sure all the Canadian ones will be right behind.Comment
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Compliance isnt that hard. The only thing making that way as a girl is Having to put my home address on the internet.
Does anyone know if there are companies out in the world that can act as a custodian of records?
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No...but a US sponsor may term you for not complying with their new rules.Originally posted by WarChild
No fed's are going to be busting through my door to check 2257 documentation. That's my point here.For rent - ICQ 127-027-910
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Worst they'd likely do is force compliance. Nobody wants to "term" an honest affiliate they make a lot of money from.Originally posted by eroswebmaster
No...but a US sponsor may term you for not complying with their new rules.
In most cases I'm using Sponsor content anyway. Their compliance will make my compliance, should it ever be required, pretty easy.
And should I be wrong, at least I'm not risking jail time here. My original statement was I was glad to be Canadian for this. Not that being Canadian is a perfect way around the new regs.
I think my original point still holds true: This is LESS of a hassle for Canadians..Comment
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Guys wake the fuck up.Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Canadians can use US hosting and US models and still wont have to comply with 2257...
Which US sponsor will PAY YOU for sales achieved by breaking the 257 laws. I suspect NONE.
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Originally posted by WarChild
Worst they'd likely do is force compliance. Nobody wants to "term" an honest affiliate they make a lot of money from.
In most cases I'm using Sponsor content anyway. Their compliance will make my compliance, should it ever be required, pretty easy.
And should I be wrong, at least I'm not risking jail time here. My original statement was I was glad to be Canadian for this. Not that being Canadian is a perfect way around the new regs.
I think my original point still holds true: This is LESS of a hassle for Canadians.
Yes i see your point.
No-one will kick in your door to arrest you, but mainly because you wont be breaking the 2257 laws. And if you do break them, no-one will pay you. You are right, no-one wants to term a honest affiliate. But guess what, you break the 2257 laws, your not an honest affiliate, your an illegally working one.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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Epic cash?Originally posted by Jdoughs
Guys wake the fuck up.
Which US sponsor will PAY YOU for sales achieved by breaking the 257 laws. I suspect NONE.
And also..whose gonna process your illegally gained sales?
No seriously.. thats exactly my concern.. but lexactly like spam.. sponsors might look the other.. I dont think sponsors can get in trouble for what an affiliate has listed on his site..
BUT sponsors need to wake the fuck up and tell us how they handle all this... Will they offer to host my non-hosted gals,.. can I use a link to their 2257 page.., etc..Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 09-07-2004, 01:07 PM.Comment
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If I were to move my hosting to Canada, wouldn't that mean I was operating a Canadian Business in Canada with US clients (affiliate programs)? How can I be breaking US laws, when I'm not operating in the US?Originally posted by Jdoughs
Yes i see your point.
No-one will kick in your door to arrest you, but mainly because you wont be breaking the 2257 laws. And if you do break them, no-one will pay you. You are right, no-one wants to term a honest affiliate. But guess what, you break the 2257 laws, your not an honest affiliate, your an illegally working one.
I'm by no means a lawyer, I'm just thinking out loud here..Comment
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Originally posted by Basic_man
Thanks god I'm canadian !
Same here.
Here is some food for thought.... is your host non-us as well?Comment
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Originally posted by WarChild
If I were to move my hosting to Canada, wouldn't that mean I was operating a Canadian Business in Canada with US clients (affiliate programs)? How can I be breaking US laws, when I'm not operating in the US?
I'm by no means a lawyer, I'm just thinking out loud here.
I dont think any sponsors will pay for signups achieved by breaking federal laws. It puts them all between a rock and a hard place. I also live in Canada and have hosts, sponsors and content from here. BUT my checks come in US dollars and 80% are from US based companies.
I will have no choice but to protect myself and my business by following the same group of guidelines (2257) that the rest of my industry must follow. Its the only surefire way to stay affloat, and to stay true to my business partners, and sponsors.LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
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HERES YOUR SIGN!Originally posted by Za Ha
Same here.
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