What is the deal with Cogent, are they good or not? Are they friendly to Adult?
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When the tailgate drops, the bullshit stops -
It's not a bad network. Yes, they are adult friendly but just don't spam.
I haven't been on their network in a while but they do offer "the deal".
They lost their peering arrangements with AOL a while back but since then fixed it. They ended up just buying another network or something to fix that issue but most networks don't like the push pull ratios they do.
If you buy enough bw, there are a few other networks that will beat their pricing. -
Certain carriers are better than others and others have attributes that are more appealing as well.
It all comes down to what are you looking to do with the services that you are interested in having on Cogent?Comment
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If it's mission critical, I wouldn't put it behind Cogent, if you can afford downtime or no route to hosts once in awhile, go nuts. Just remember you get what you pay for so don't go fuming mad when it suffers a hiccup.Free agentComment
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Why would you go for Cogent when there are better providers offering the same prices.
Multihomed quality BW for less
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I've yet to hear of a single provider that can meet the prices Cogent are offering. Got any examples?Originally posted by keyDet79
Why would you go for Cogent when there are better providers offering the same prices.Free agentComment
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Depends on the city - they're still working on bringing their network up to decent standards in some places. It doesn't get much cheaper then cogent in pricing; but I wouldn't put anything mission critical on it. They are adult friendly, however, I've seen providers get the plug pulled without warning due to spam violations.
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Getting prices near cogents all depends on your commitment. I've got a quote sitting right infront of me at the moment from a provider here in Canada (Yipes/NAC blend) for 70$/mbit/month Canadian Currency - which is about 50$/mbit/month USD depending on the exchange rate. I'm sure if I was talking about a higher commit rate with them, you'd see that drop again too.Originally posted by jact
I've yet to hear of a single provider that can meet the prices Cogent are offering. Got any examples?Comment
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That's nowhere near what I've been quoted by Cogent. You're talking more then I'm paying with an adult host with a solid network and far more then double what Cogent quoted me. Keep shopping around, that isn't a very good price.Originally posted by egonetworks
Getting prices near cogents all depends on your commitment. I've got a quote sitting right infront of me at the moment from a provider here in Canada (Yipes/NAC blend) for 70$/mbit/month Canadian Currency - which is about 50$/mbit/month USD depending on the exchange rate. I'm sure if I was talking about a higher commit rate with them, you'd see that drop again too.Free agentComment
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Notice the part I said about commitment. We were only asking for a 10mbit outbound only pipe to throw internal communications out of. If I was talking about a 100mbit or Gbit pipe, or even a full-duplex line at 20-30mbit, it would drop - just like I said.Originally posted by jact
That's nowhere near what I've been quoted by Cogent. You're talking more then I'm paying with an adult host with a solid network and far more then double what Cogent quoted me. Keep shopping around, that isn't a very good price.Comment
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There's still better pricing out there for a 10 meg commitment, even Canadian.Originally posted by egonetworks
Notice the part I said about commitment. We were only asking for a 10mbit outbound only pipe to throw internal communications out of. If I was talking about a 100mbit or Gbit pipe, or even a full-duplex line at 20-30mbit, it would drop - just like I said.
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Find me a carrier that offers it - not dedicated server, or colo provider as we have our own facility. Find me an actual carrier that's going to drop fiber into one of our facilities for 30$/mbit (Port fee included, install fee waived, portable IP's included).
Cogent lists:
FAST-E (100 Mbps) $3,000/month
That's 30$/mbit USD for Fast-E connection to your facility (used for hosting) which is about 40$/mbit CAD...Comment
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Why do your work for you?Originally posted by egonetworks
Find me a carrier that offers it - not dedicated server, or colo provider as we have our own facility. Find me an actual carrier that's going to drop fiber into one of our facilities for 30$/mbit (Port fee included, install fee waived, portable IP's included).
Cogent lists:
FAST-E (100 Mbps) $3,000/month
That's 30$/mbit USD for Fast-E connection to your facility (used for hosting) which is about 40$/mbit CAD...
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Not for a fastE.Originally posted by egonetworks
Find me a carrier that offers it - not dedicated server, or colo provider as we have our own facility. Find me an actual carrier that's going to drop fiber into one of our facilities for 30$/mbit (Port fee included, install fee waived, portable IP's included).
Cogent lists:
FAST-E (100 Mbps) $3,000/month
That's 30$/mbit USD for Fast-E connection to your facility (used for hosting) which is about 40$/mbit CAD...
2+ gigE's and it's under $30. Can't mention names because of non-disclosures.Comment
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Originally posted by jact
Why do your work for you?
Care to rephrase, cuz I seriously don't understand that one. You said even in Canada, 50$/mbit for a Carrier is expensive. I seriously invite you to find me that price, or cheaper, in quality bandwidth (non-cogent). My quotes from Yipes/NAC blend, we've already got 360Networks, Bell and MCI, so I know what those run. We've also got space in Peer1 Montreal, so I know what that runs....who do you think will compete with 70$/mbit Canadian for NAC/Yipes quality? Honestly....Comment
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Their website is where I pulled the quote for 3,000/month for FE. If you're saying 2Gbit gets you under $30 - then that sounds like my argument this whole thread...it's all about your commitment.Originally posted by fsfaz
Not for a fastE.
2+ gigE's and it's under $30. Can't mention names because of non-disclosures.Comment
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Originally posted by egonetworks
Their website is where I pulled the quote for 3,000/month for FE. If you're saying 2Gbit gets you under $30 - then that sounds like my argument this whole thread...it's all about your commitment.
Oh, then yeah. It's all about the commitment.Comment
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You can get cheapass pricing from shitty aleron or wiltel also, sub 30 on 1gbit...one of them sub 20......performance is just as shitty if not worse than cogent thou.Comment
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I know of quite a few, two in the SF bay area.Originally posted by jact
I've yet to hear of a single provider that can meet the prices Cogent are offering. Got any examples?
I've actually got a deal running right now thats $3500 for 100Mbps+Cabinet+Power.
If you're interested, I can hook that up.
The other place is $2500 a month for 100Mbps, then you pay for the rack an extra $400-500 or so. Their BW is not bad, but not as good as the other deal I'm pushing.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Cogent is very cheap.
We use it for freehosting. It is best variant.Comment
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Cogent was having some cash problems recently... though they always seem to keep their ship floating still.
Then again, most providers these days have cash problems.Last edited by goBigtime; 01-30-2004, 07:20 AM.Comment
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Running fiber instead of GigE's you will have more charges, first for running the fiber and then again for the port costs on their end for which they will probably charge you. You may get a better rate but then you are committing for 1000Mbps instead of the 100Mbps in their $3,000 special. Which of course you cant even push a full 100Mbps on so the actual per Mbps price is more than $30 per Mbps. On the gigE you can get it cheaper but if you are pushing that much bandwidth and you need to penny pinch and run cogent you are doing something wrong. Sure maximizing profits is good, but cogent just isnt stable enough to let you sleep well at night when running that much traffic.
And dont forget the benefits of multihomed.
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What kind of issues have you been having with aleron?Originally posted by Rodent
You can get cheapass pricing from shitty aleron or wiltel also, sub 30 on 1gbit...one of them sub 20......performance is just as shitty if not worse than cogent thou.POST NO ADS!
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HE.net and their 100mbit deals.Originally posted by jact
I've yet to hear of a single provider that can meet the prices Cogent are offering. Got any examples?
Multihomed quality BW for less
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Yeah, we at he.net are offering $2500 for cabinet, 15A power, and 100Mb in fremont...and very cheap 100Mb and 1GB xcons..
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This thread is basically 100% on target.
Cogent is pretty decent network, but not mission critical.
There are other companies offering similar pricing.
Cogent is still losing massive $$, but their Market Cap has increased from $3mil to $26mil in the last year.Comment
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We have been using Cogent Banwith for over a year now and i have to say i really do not know why everyone is so against these guys???? They have been rock solid and we never had downtime (even during the NYC Blackout ) Now that they have consolidated their AS numbers all into 1 the latency on their network has gone down quite a bit (the latency on the cogent network is less than the latency our other feed from MFN)and now that they are bringing their services and PRICING to europe you can go wrong. So to all of you out there who hate Cogent bandwith (since there are so many people who listen to others opnions and not the true facts) you do not know what your missing. And their pricing cant be beat they give us 10mb for $500 . Hit me up if you have any questions.Bush Needs to Be Stopped, Get out there and VOTE. Stand Up for your PORN!!!! icq 3583065Comment
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damn you guys know what you are talking about NiceICQ #286508534Comment
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