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  • Mr. Marks
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 7517

    #1

    Verotel vs. CCBill

    What's your choice and Why?
  • DickShoke
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2003
    • 1236

    #2
    Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

    easy backend administrative interface is the reason


    are two reasons....
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    • reynold
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Oct 2002
      • 51271

      #3
      neither

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      • EviLGuY
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2003
        • 12745

        #4
        No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.

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        • Mr. Marks
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2001
          • 7517

          #5
          Originally posted by DickShoke
          Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

          easy backend administrative interface is the reason


          are two reasons....
          Does their system accommodate Build Your Own Tour type systems?

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          • WWC
            #1 Adult Content Provider
            • Jul 2003
            • 11577

            #6
            CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software
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            • Mr. Marks
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2001
              • 7517

              #7
              Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
              CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software
              Damn good reason, actually.

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              • Hentaikid
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2002
                • 1250

                #8
                I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...

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                • Royal Cash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1755

                  #9
                  ccbill of course!

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                  • strobi
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 7383

                    #10
                    Alot of people report better ratios with verotel. Never used them thought.

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                    • Shoplifter
                      Richest man in Babylon
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 5850

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hentaikid
                      I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...
                      CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

                      All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.
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                      • chupacabra
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 3626

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Shoplifter
                        CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

                        All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.
                        have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!
                        ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                        • mrgica
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2169

                          #13
                          Originally posted by chupacabra
                          have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!
                          funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales.
                          Strange?!?
                          Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                          • chupacabra
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 3626

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mrgica
                            funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales.
                            Strange?!?
                            i know, looking back at this same week for the last couple of years i can affirm this is a record week for new sales as well at my end, very pleased w/ this weeks numbers across the board..!
                            ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                            • gxer
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 846

                              #15
                              Verotel Rocks

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                              • axelcat
                                Adult Locals
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 25450

                                #16
                                ccbill

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                                • Dailydiapers
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2003
                                  • 1080

                                  #17
                                  Ever since the pro/ticketsclub split my Veortel sales have been steadily growing. They just needed some of the dead-weight off their payment gateway.
                                  Mike
                                  http://www.dailydiapers.com/

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                                  • Veterans Day
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 8403

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by EviLGuY
                                    No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.
                                    People been sayin verotel is gonna die for years now Verotel does convert 2:1 over ccbill in my experiences
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                                    • Dirty Dane
                                      Sick Fuck
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 9491

                                      #19
                                      After Verotel blew off majority of the affiliates 5 months ago, the way they did it, and not even responded on the emails they said we should send if we felt that was an error, I trust them 0 %. I will NEVER NEVER NEVER promote a verotel program again!

                                      Wonder if we get our 6-months "holdbacks" paid out in october? Doubt so....
                                      ...and all webmaster I'm in contact with, also newbies, I tell them to stay away.

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                                      • fr8
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 5074

                                        #20
                                        Verotel is one way to save money. Havnt used them though.
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                                        • spooky181
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 2951

                                          #21
                                          I have used both and Verotel wins by a country mile...

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                                          • twist
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2003
                                            • 415

                                            #22
                                            I can't believe someone says Verotel after what they did some months ago. They promoted underage shit and once they paniced they shut down affiliated for no reason.

                                            I love big boobs.

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                                            • body
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 5016

                                              #23
                                              Ibill
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                                              • lock
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 5065

                                                #24
                                                With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
                                                http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

                                                However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.
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                                                • gxer
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 846

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by lock
                                                  With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
                                                  http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

                                                  However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.
                                                  Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
                                                  Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

                                                  It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

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                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                    • 40377

                                                    #26
                                                    Verotel - people say it converts better, but CCbill has a better reputation.
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                                                    • justsexxx
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                      • 13723

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by gxer
                                                      Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
                                                      Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

                                                      It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

                                                      http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

                                                      Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

                                                      Andre
                                                      Questions?

                                                      ICQ: 125184542

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                                                      • rowan
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Mar 2002
                                                        • 17393

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by gxer
                                                        Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
                                                        Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

                                                        It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.
                                                        Not Found

                                                        The requested URL /webmasters.html was not found on this server.
                                                        Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at www.modelsinlove.com Port 80


                                                        ?

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                                                        • Manowar
                                                          jellyfish  
                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 71528

                                                          #29
                                                          CCBill

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                                                          • Sausage
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 3012

                                                            #30
                                                            Verotel hands down.

                                                            I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!

                                                            CCBill has affiliate tracking problems, and scrubs too hard.

                                                            Epoch is also good if you don't need email support quicker than 2-3 weeks and have a programmer who can make up a front end and decypher their rather cryptic setup.
                                                            IW
                                                            Skype : blance8888
                                                            Icq : 15567120

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                                                            • rowan
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                              • 17393

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Sausage
                                                              Verotel hands down.

                                                              I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!
                                                              Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio.

                                                              join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
                                                              signup page = I want to enter my card details

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                                                              • EscortDate_Enoj
                                                                Registered User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 87

                                                                #32
                                                                We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

                                                                They also have great support and always respond quickly.

                                                                However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

                                                                It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

                                                                I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

                                                                Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.
                                                                Last edited by EscortDate_Enoj; 09-05-2004, 08:44 AM.

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                                                                • Sausage
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                  • 3012

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rowan
                                                                  Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio.

                                                                  join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
                                                                  signup page = I want to enter my card details
                                                                  I stand corrected rowan
                                                                  But i would say signup page = "I want to either enter my credit card info, or I want to try to see if I can get in without it" ;)

                                                                  Compared to my 1:38 CCbill join page (click through to the join page) ratio, I think thats still pretty damn good !
                                                                  IW
                                                                  Skype : blance8888
                                                                  Icq : 15567120

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                                                                  • Ty W
                                                                    Registered User
                                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                                    • 47

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • Kicker
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                      • 7040

                                                                      #35
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                                                                      • mrgica
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 2169

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by gxer
                                                                        Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
                                                                        Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

                                                                        It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.
                                                                        Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
                                                                        So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
                                                                        It must be simple?!?
                                                                        Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                                                        • Shoplifter
                                                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                          • 5850

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by mrgica
                                                                          Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
                                                                          So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
                                                                          It must be simple?!?
                                                                          You can do this with SSI very quickly. All ithas to do is pass the reseller ID to the page. php is not required at all.
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                                                                          • HarlotCash Dyker
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                                            • 1828

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by EscortDate_Enoj
                                                                            We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

                                                                            They also have great support and always respond quickly.

                                                                            However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

                                                                            It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

                                                                            I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

                                                                            Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.

                                                                            They have good support?

                                                                            No they do not - Their staff are simply not trained to do their jobs properly -
                                                                            I used them for back up on a smaller site to try them out. I was actually thinking of moving everything over to them - I had a problem and lost their details and emailed them (using the same email) The guy asked for proof - So I gave him our cc number we used when signing up - (Right - now he has our cc number and can verify our email address)
                                                                            Not enough - We get canned and lose our cash - Then we are told they didn't know the system and they only needed the email verification -
                                                                            Bunch of amateurs
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                                                                            • gxer
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 846

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by rowan
                                                                              Not Found

                                                                              The requested URL /webmasters.html was not found on this server.
                                                                              Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at www.modelsinlove.com Port 80


                                                                              ?
                                                                              Yep, fixed now.

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                                                                              • gxer
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2002
                                                                                • 846

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

                                                                                Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

                                                                                Andre
                                                                                Yes, because of fake ID.
                                                                                It will work only with ID of real reseller.

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                                                                                • gxer
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 846

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by mrgica
                                                                                  Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
                                                                                  So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
                                                                                  It must be simple?!?
                                                                                  let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example

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                                                                                  • Shoplifter
                                                                                    Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                    • 5850

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by gxer
                                                                                    let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example
                                                                                    Can you hit me on ICQ?

                                                                                    17249164

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                                                                                    • frish
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                      • 335

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      CCBill
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