Originally posted by punkworld Seems like it could rather easily be used as one...
A lot of tools "could rather easily" be used for something malicious. A chainsaw could be used to slaughter masses of people. A peer-to-peer program could be used to distribute or download CP. A screwdriver could be used to stab someone in the neck.
Originally posted by FlyingIguana spamming is bullshit, i would never do it.
i thought about putting together double opt in/4 free type programs but it would be too much hassle for me so i said fuck it.
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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey A lot of tools "could rather easily" be used for something malicious. A chainsaw could be used to slaughter masses of people. A peer-to-peer program could be used to distribute or download CP. A screwdriver could be used to stab someone in the neck.
Actually, in this case it isn't a matter of "could be used as", but "is". It's a hitbot that's meant to make a feature of sites completely useless and make people's stats completely unreliable.
Originally posted by punkworld So it's a hitbot for blogs that don't use trade scripts and such. Still pretty shady in my opinion.
I don't do it but why do you care?No harm done and a free PR for you if everything works out.It has nothing to do with hitbot cheating it just spams your ref into the site logs.
Originally posted by johndoebob I don't do it but why do you care?No harm done and a free PR for you if everything works out.It has nothing to do with hitbot cheating it just spams your ref into the site logs.
Sure it does harm. It fucks with people's stats, and serves as a hitbot for those blogs which post their refs on their main page. Aside from that, it's meant as a black hat se technique.
It's the same as blogspamming, guestbookspamming, IM-spamming, etc. Just one more thing to make the internet just that little bit worse of a place for users.
Originally posted by punkworld Sure it does harm. It fucks with people's stats, and serves as a hitbot for those blogs which post their refs on their main page. Aside from that, it's meant as a black hat se technique.
It's the same as blogspamming, guestbookspamming, IM-spamming, etc. Just one more thing to make the internet just that little bit worse of a place for users.
Welcome to what this thread is all about. But the question is not whether it is bad for users (although some have debated its effects) the question is would you do it? The answer for you seems no, but I had about 5 people hit me up on ICQ with regards to this thread, and Monkey (as he mentioned) had people hit him up mistakenly too). Here is an example of what they said:
"i read your thread about spam and i must say im very interested and always thought about doing it. I got your icq# from rep monkey. Would it be possible to talk sometime about this? If so let me know a time,thanks."
I am not going to teach them shit. If I was goign to teach anyone I would teach my own brother or friend. I have nothing to gain from teaching them, but I find it interesting that so many people are willing to jump on board to fuck users around so as to make some extra coin.
I do the occasional cell phone spamming. I have a residual list of over 300,000 cell phone numbers from an unnamed company. I use their website to send one by one Works wonders.
Spamming is probably the worst form of destruction of capital online.
I believe the average person who works with computers spends about 5 minutes a day looking through and deleting spam. Now, that doesn't seem like a lot, does it?
Let's say there are about 50 million people in the US working with computers (a fairly realistic, maybe even low estimate). In that case, spam costs ~4.2 million work hours a day. At an average of $15 per hour, that's $62,500,000 per day.
Assuming an average of a 5 day work week and 48 weeks of work a year, email spamming adds up to an economic damage of about $15 billion a year in the US alone.
And that's just a small part of the damage spam does. It also has direct effects like diminished consumer trust regarding the internet, actually scaring people away from the internet, etc. The internet as a business tool has been greatly damaged by spam and crap like it.
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You are right the spam is a big cost for all the internet community, Stop spamming , and only sending to your opt-in list and use other way to reach a more quality traffic.. and dont waste the time of millions people ..and scary people about the internet.
well i think that it could be a way to increase you members and would generate sales but in the end they all die and new ones have to be built and the compaines are coming up with elaborate ways of keeping spam out so it is always an up hill battle
Spamming is probably the worst form of destruction of capital online.
I believe the average person who works with computers spends about 5 minutes a day looking through and deleting spam. Now, that doesn't seem like a lot, does it?
Let's say there are about 50 million people in the US working with computers (a fairly realistic, maybe even low estimate). In that case, spam costs ~4.2 million work hours a day. At an average of $15 per hour, that's $62,500,000 per day.
Assuming an average of a 5 day work week and 48 weeks of work a year, email spamming adds up to an economic damage of about $15 billion a year in the US alone.
And that's just a small part of the damage spam does. It also has direct effects like diminished consumer trust regarding the internet, actually scaring people away from the internet, etc. The internet as a business tool has been greatly damaged by spam and crap like it.
Your next lame anti excuse will be:
Spammers dont pay to send emails while a real marketing company need a liscense and pay US Post to send their shit.
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