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  • graphicsbytia
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2003
    • 2618
    #1

    Adult Biz in a little slump?

    Hi Guys!

    I've been noticing something in the last few weeks.... Eveyone is broke!

    I've been watching boards, and it seems like everyone is desparate for money right now.

    The reason I'm writing this thread is, for those of you that find yourself in this position, there are some things to think about..
    1. You're not the only one this is happening to.. so time to go with the flow
    2. These are the times when you need to prepare... for the good times... they are closer than you know, and when they come and you look back and say.. gee, I wish I had time to make more sites, or fix your existing one, or whatever else you could have done to make your empire a little stronger.

    So.. is this a good time to promote my business? Heck ya!

    We need work at Graphics by tia, we've lowered our prices, and those on this board know that deals can be made.

    Let's get something going
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    • KRL
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      • Oct 2002
      • 31429
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        • Shoplifter
          Richest man in Babylon
          • Jan 2002
          • 5863
          #3
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            • MrIzzz
              If u touch it, I will cum
              • Sep 2003
              • 22923
              #4
              with any business you need to plan for the lows. if you don't treat what you do as a business then you go broke


              WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

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                • AdultNex
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                  • Feb 2003
                  • 8985
                  #5
                  You're probably hearing that from the SEOers. Google's been going through a rough hurricane the past few days...

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                    • Mike-BP
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1270
                      #6
                      No problems here
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                        • graphicsbytia
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                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2618
                          #7
                          Originally posted by AdultNex
                          You're probably hearing that from the SEOers. Google's been going through a rough hurricane the past few days...
                          true, I've been hearing a lot from the SE'ers .. but hearing a lot of it in general on the boards, especially this one

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                            • axelcat
                              Adult Locals
                              • Jun 2002
                              • 25450
                              #8

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                                • GigaRoss
                                  Porn To ROCK!
                                  • Dec 2003
                                  • 4357
                                  #9
                                  isn't the adult industry the 2nd most profitable industry???
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                                    • Tight
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                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 323
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by GigaRoss
                                      isn't the adult industry the 2nd most profitable industry???
                                      Really? You mean just on the net right? So what is the No.1 most profitable industry then?
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                                        • Big Nath
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                                          • Feb 2003
                                          • 332
                                          #11
                                          Things are going better in the last few weeks for me than in the last 6 months. I dont know where your getting your info !!


                                          BigNath

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                                            • mistersoft
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                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 1021
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by GigaRoss
                                              isn't the adult industry the 2nd most profitable industry???
                                              no 3.

                                              weapons and drugs both do better
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                                                • Nismo
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                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 4977
                                                  #13
                                                  I dunno about you guys, but I just bought some african slaves to do all my tgp listings. I also wipe my ass with $20 bills and use $100 bills to blow my nose.
                                                  i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                                                    • Brujah
                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                      • 22157
                                                      #14
                                                      can I get a free design and could you maybe send me $20 in paypal ? I really really really need it

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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                          best designer on GFY
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 30307
                                                          #15
                                                          Slow? Its not slow, its just that alot of tours and design out there really suck...

                                                          Thanks to outsourcing


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                                                            • StuartD
                                                              Sofa King Band
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 29903
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by graphicsbytia
                                                              Hi Guys!

                                                              I've been noticing something in the last few weeks.... Eveyone is broke!

                                                              I've been watching boards, and it seems like everyone is desparate for money right now.
                                                              I'm glad I don't hang around the boards that you do.
                                                              This is me on facebook
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                                                                • graphicsbytia
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                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                  • 2618
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by GigaRoss
                                                                  isn't the adult industry the 2nd most profitable industry???
                                                                  yeah it probably is.. I didn't say it wasn't profitable, all I'm saying is that it's going through a down period in the last few weeks.. I've been in this biz for over 7 yrs and have seen it happen, and when it happens people get pretty depressed about it.. but it does end.. I mean.. hey.. even the people who make a ton of money are seeing it.. and if they say no.. they're not telling the truth

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                                                                    • EmporerEJ
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                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                      • 282
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by GigaRoss
                                                                      isn't the adult industry the 2nd most profitable industry???
                                                                      2nd????

                                                                      If it's second, I'd sure like to know what the first is!!!


                                                                      I'm not complaining!

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                                                                        • PatrickKing
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                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 2096
                                                                          #19
                                                                          NO
                                                                          [email protected]

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                                                                            • triumph
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                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 3433
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by PatrickKing
                                                                              NO
                                                                              raising your post count?

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                                                                                • Rich
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 11486
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Domains are going to more than ever, sigs prices here are through the roof, Bush just made spam legal in the USA, what makes you think people are hurting?

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                                                                                    • PatrickKing
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                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                      • 2096
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by triumph


                                                                                      raising your post count?
                                                                                      NO
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                                                                                        • StuartD
                                                                                          Sofa King Band
                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                          • 29903
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by PatrickKing

                                                                                          NO
                                                                                          just doubled it.
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                                                                                          This is me on twitter

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                                                                                            • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                              • 2618
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by PatrickKing
                                                                                              NO
                                                                                              lol

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                                                                                                • PatrickKing
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                                                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                                                  • 2096
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by MaskedMan


                                                                                                  just doubled it.
                                                                                                  Lol Yeah startin out on any board sucks. I've been lurkin , and figured I'd join in .
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                                                                                                    • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                      • 2618
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by PatrickKing

                                                                                                      Lol Yeah startin out on any board sucks. I've been lurkin , and figured I'd join in .
                                                                                                      get yourself a sig hon!

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                                                                                                        • PatrickKing
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                          • 2096
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                          get yourself a sig hon!
                                                                                                          Hows this?
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                                                                                                            • graphicsbytia
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                                              • 2618
                                                                                                              #28

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                                                                                                                • Ross
                                                                                                                  Ik ben een aap
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                  • 18874
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                                                                                  with any business you need to plan for the lows. if you don't treat what you do as a business then you go broke
                                                                                                                  Wise words...

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                                                                                                                    • icedemon
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                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                      • 1022
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                                      yeah it probably is.. I didn't say it wasn't profitable, all I'm saying is that it's going through a down period in the last few weeks.. I've been in this biz for over 7 yrs and have seen it happen, and when it happens people get pretty depressed about it.. but it does end.. I mean.. hey.. even the people who make a ton of money are seeing it.. and if they say no.. they're not telling the truth
                                                                                                                      Your business might be going through a down period. But This month looks like a record profit for me. Just because your going through a down period, doesn't mean everybody else is. I've been in this business since 96. January and Febuary have always been the best months for me. Even my friends have been seeing records profits this month. One friend is doing over $300,000 this month so far. Where is this down period your talking about?
                                                                                                                      Clips4Sale.com

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                                                                                                                        • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                          • 2618
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by icedemon


                                                                                                                          Your business might be going through a down period. But This month looks like a record profit for me. Just because your going through a down period, doesn't mean everybody else is. I've been in this business since 96. January and Febuary have always been the best months for me. Even my friends have been seeing records profits this month. One friend is doing over $300,000 this month so far. Where is this down period your talking about?
                                                                                                                          ok let me just say one thing here before this who can tell the biggest fattest lie contest continues.

                                                                                                                          I am very wary of people who always claim they do well .. no one does well all of the time. There are ups and downs in this business, it runs pretty seasonal, except for the occasional world crisis which always has an effect.

                                                                                                                          I guess a lot of people follow the "never say you're not doing well" theory of good business... I tend not to trust those types when it comes to doing business with them

                                                                                                                          icedemon, please don't take this as a personal attack I'm not speaking to you directly, just using your post as an example

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                                                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                              • 22157
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by icedemon

                                                                                                                              One friend is doing over $300,000 this month so far. Where is this down period your talking about?
                                                                                                                              Quiet ?

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                                                                                                                                • Shoplifter
                                                                                                                                  Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 5863
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                                                  ok let me just say one thing here before this who can tell the biggest fattest lie contest continues.
                                                                                                                                  There are people here who are doing very very well. And there are more who would never come to this degenerate BBS who are doing better.

                                                                                                                                  You can't measure the world by your own yardstick. And Icedemon's pal doing the $300k is totally believable. I know more than a few guys in that ballpark.
                                                                                                                                  I Like Blondes

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                                                                                                                                    • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 2618
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Shoplifter


                                                                                                                                      There are people here who are doing very very well. And there are more who would never come to this degenerate BBS who are doing better.

                                                                                                                                      You can't measure the world by your own yardstick. And Icedemon's pal doing the $300k is totally believable. I know more than a few guys in that ballpark.
                                                                                                                                      you seem to think I'm saying that no one does well in the adult biz.. that's not even close to what I was trying to get across.. we do well ..... or I wouldn't be in this biz for so long.. the one and only thing I was trying to post about was the depression newer people feel when the biz hits a slump.. I've seen a lot of people who seem desparate for money on the boards lately.. that's it!

                                                                                                                                      And one more thing.. I never said I didn't believe Icedemon's pal wasn't doing the $300K... I was not only replying to his post but to all the ones that claimed that no slump is happening at all.. it's all around them.. all you have to do is read this board to see it. Is it happening to them? Maybe.. Maybe not.. I didn't bring up that part.. they did, with a defensive post
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by graphicsbytia; 01-28-2004, 04:22 PM.

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                                                                                                                                        • chemicaleyes
                                                                                                                                          UNSTOPPABLE
                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                          • 11569
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Ross
                                                                                                                                          Wise words...
                                                                                                                                          agreed
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                                                                                                                                            • Sharky
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                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 4938
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              tia - try supplementing your income with mainstream work. it really works!
                                                                                                                                              Sharky

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                                                                                                                                                • icedemon
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 1022
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                                                                  ok let me just say one thing here before this who can tell the biggest fattest lie contest continues.

                                                                                                                                                  I am very wary of people who always claim they do well .. no one does well all of the time. There are ups and downs in this business, it runs pretty seasonal, except for the occasional world crisis which always has an effect.

                                                                                                                                                  I guess a lot of people follow the "never say you're not doing well" theory of good business... I tend not to trust those types when it comes to doing business with them

                                                                                                                                                  icedemon, please don't take this as a personal attack I'm not speaking to you directly, just using your post as an example
                                                                                                                                                  I don't take anything personal on boards (especially GFY). Your right that there are business cycles of ups and downs. But when I think of a slump, I'm thinking of 2 years ago, when it was really hard for everybody to make money. Hardly anybody was making good money back then, except for a few people.

                                                                                                                                                  Right now I see all kinds of people making good money right now. Maybe I'm thinking we are not in a slump, because the people I talk to are doing really well. I do talk to people that are barely making it, but most of them have been in the biz for only a year or two and to me are still green in the biz. I'm seeing too many people now days setting new highs in revenue.

                                                                                                                                                  I'm just not seeing a slump with me and the people I know.
                                                                                                                                                  Clips4Sale.com

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                                                                                                                                                    • graphicsbytia
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 2618
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by sharky
                                                                                                                                                      tia - try supplementing your income with mainstream work. it really works!
                                                                                                                                                      I've never done much mainstream work sharky, my partner does though, has a real nice mainstream site. The reason we need work is because we need to get more adult stuff in his portfolio, he has next to nothing in there.

                                                                                                                                                      The real problem here is I'm spending a lot of time on digibucks, it's been a lot of work, but it's paying off.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 51692
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by graphicsbytia
                                                                                                                                                          Hi Guys!

                                                                                                                                                          I've been noticing something in the last few weeks.... Eveyone is broke!

                                                                                                                                                          I've been watching boards, and it seems like everyone is desparate for money right now.

                                                                                                                                                          The reason I'm writing this thread is, for those of you that find yourself in this position, there are some things to think about..
                                                                                                                                                          1. You're not the only one this is happening to.. so time to go with the flow
                                                                                                                                                          2. These are the times when you need to prepare... for the good times... they are closer than you know, and when they come and you look back and say.. gee, I wish I had time to make more sites, or fix your existing one, or whatever else you could have done to make your empire a little stronger.

                                                                                                                                                          So.. is this a good time to promote my business? Heck ya!

                                                                                                                                                          We need work at Graphics by tia, we've lowered our prices, and those on this board know that deals can be made.

                                                                                                                                                          Let's get something going
                                                                                                                                                          lol ... Thats why some1 paid 8000 $ for sigs .

                                                                                                                                                          The thing is that everybody is broke after christmass . The first weeks of Jan are always the slowest (except summer) for every business.
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                                            • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 2618
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Doctor Dre


                                                                                                                                                              lol ... Thats why some1 paid 8000 $ for sigs .

                                                                                                                                                              The thing is that everybody is broke after christmass . The first weeks of Jan are always the slowest (except summer) for every business.
                                                                                                                                                              right! and that's all I was saying.. well that and spamming my stuff ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                • shermo
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for making us aware of your company Tia. The work looks great, but I don't think you need to tie it into a thread talking about biz slumping. I'm already doubling last years income and that's after taking time off for conventions, school, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                  From what I hear, most people and following the same pattern as I am. If it's the newer people complaining, then you just have to equate it to newby syndrome: If they don't make a million in a month, they think the biz is not for them. It's get right quick or go back to Wendys!

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                                                                                                                                                                    • toddler
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1911
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                                                                                      true, I've been hearing a lot from the SE'ers .. but hearing a lot of it in general on the boards, especially this one

                                                                                                                                                                      Especially this one. Gee, who'd have thunk ? An astounding number of people spend more time on this board bitching and playing keyboard cowboy than actually working.


                                                                                                                                                                      My mainstream stuff is going just fine....
                                                                                                                                                                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoddler/

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                                                                                                                                                                        • rickholio
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by graphicsbytia


                                                                                                                                                                          you seem to think I'm saying that no one does well in the adult biz.. that's not even close to what I was trying to get across.. we do well ..... or I wouldn't be in this biz for so long.. the one and only thing I was trying to post about was the depression newer people feel when the biz hits a slump.. I've seen a lot of people who seem desparate for money on the boards lately.. that's it!
                                                                                                                                                                          Porn is just like any other industry... when the economy isn't doing so hot, things tend to consolidate and the bottom producers get squeezed out. I'd hazard a guess that most of the complaints you're seeing are the newcomers looking for the quick buck they heard you could make (like back in 1997 or something) or the ones who lack hussle and business acumen to stay strong in the game. In the end, the industry will is better off culling out the weaker elements.

                                                                                                                                                                          And I'm doing just fine, thanks. Not making $300k/month (where do you sign up to get THAT job? ) but surviving comfortably enough. With a little hard work and some good partnerships, this will be another banner year!
                                                                                                                                                                          ~

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                                                                                                                                                                            • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by shermsshack
                                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for making us aware of your company Tia. The work looks great, but I don't think you need to tie it into a thread talking about biz slumping.
                                                                                                                                                                              Well thanks shermsshack, I'm glad you like it.. and you don't think I need to tie it into a thread talking about biz slumping?.. would you care to elaborate on why I shouldn't do that?

                                                                                                                                                                              oh and here's one extra for you on the house ;)

                                                                                                                                                                              EMAIL: webmaster AT shermsshack DOT com / ICQ: 235857
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                                                                                                                                                                                •  Smokey The Bear 
                                                                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3880
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  January looks good. December was a tad slow.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • FTVGirls
                                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1052
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      is that 300k/month gross or net? haha

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • SureFire
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 4398
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by graphicsbytia
                                                                                                                                                                                          Hi Guys!

                                                                                                                                                                                          I've been noticing something in the last few weeks.... Eveyone is broke!

                                                                                                                                                                                          I've been watching boards, and it seems like everyone is desparate for money right now.

                                                                                                                                                                                          The reason I'm writing this thread is, for those of you that find yourself in this position, there are some things to think about..
                                                                                                                                                                                          1. You're not the only one this is happening to.. so time to go with the flow
                                                                                                                                                                                          2. These are the times when you need to prepare... for the good times... they are closer than you know, and when they come and you look back and say.. gee, I wish I had time to make more sites, or fix your existing one, or whatever else you could have done to make your empire a little stronger.

                                                                                                                                                                                          So.. is this a good time to promote my business? Heck ya!

                                                                                                                                                                                          We need work at Graphics by tia, we've lowered our prices, and those on this board know that deals can be made.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Let's get something going

                                                                                                                                                                                          Can't help you out since we do the same work. But, I agree with you that the economy sucks and many people here are reducing their prices, holding specials or begging for money.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I almost think that the last sig sale were for companies' last effort to show the rest of us they are strong. Really, does a new porn/webmaster like abuse from a high post count member from this board?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • icedemon
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by FTVGirls
                                                                                                                                                                                              is that 300k/month gross or net? haha
                                                                                                                                                                                              That's gross. Not sure what he pays himself out of the business.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Clips4Sale.com

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • graphicsbytia
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SureFire



                                                                                                                                                                                                  Really, does a new porn/webmaster like abuse from a high post count member from this board?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't see any abuse, we're just debating on who are big fat liars and who aren't ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • pussyluver
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Clueless OleMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 11009
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      For the record -- Graphicsbytia = great work!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      If you can get Tia's attention and her partners attention at a bargin price right now, my advice is go for it!!!

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