these are what made me look into this side of the web
Honest and reliable
maybe also no matter the size of the wallet or number of hits, the ones who remember what it was like to be a little newb and is willing to offer advice and/or help
maybe also no matter the size of the wallet or number of hits, the ones who remember what it was like to be a little newb and is willing to offer advice and/or help
unfortunately this is not the common attitude of top GFY'ers
Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
unfortunately this is not the common attitude of top GFY'ers
ehh i think a lot of the flaming here is in good fun ... i agree honest reliable people are #1 in my book - lots of people with lots of money i probably wouldnt piss on if they were on fire ... look at all the people who are "somebody's" in terms of money, then disappear owing people money or you find out they've been ripping people off, etc.
As far as money is concerned, it's often the quiet individuals who make the most, and a lot that you don't think have it, have fairly large accounts.
I personally look at the last 3. Personality is adriving force. The reason people are gravitated towards certain people is because of their traits. The ability to piss people off, get people to think, making people laugh...These are all important! A reaction of any sort is better than nothing.
Intelligence is definitly a factor as well. If a person is brain dead, there's nothing to work with. He may have all the money in the world to hire staff, but once the staff is confident enough, they will all branch out on their own.
Drive is the last big motivator. If a person sits on their ass and is flakey with everything, it detracts people from wanting to do business with them. A hard working individual is a person who deserves respect, no matter what level they are at.
Money, cars and women can be had by anybody with a brain or a little luck. I think a good majority of individuals at shows has some money...whether it's from porn, a 9-5, inheritance or by other means. The others are a bullshit exterior that really isn't that important.
Given that, who do you think the top "somebodys" are?
Originally posted by shermsshack Good answer Vita!
As far as money is concerned, it's often the quiet individuals who make the most, and a lot that you don't think have it, have fairly large accounts.
I personally look at the last 3. Personality is adriving force. The reason people are gravitated towards certain people is because of their traits. The ability to piss people off, get people to think, making people laugh...These are all important! A reaction of any sort is better than nothing.
Intelligence is definitly a factor as well. If a person is brain dead, there's nothing to work with. He may have all the money in the world to hire staff, but once the staff is confident enough, they will all branch out on their own.
Drive is the last big motivator. If a person sits on their ass and is flakey with everything, it detracts people from wanting to do business with them. A hard working individual is a person who deserves respect, no matter what level they are at.
Money, cars and women can be had by anybody with a brain or a little luck. I think a good majority of individuals at shows has some money...whether it's from porn, a 9-5, inheritance or by other means. The others are a bullshit exterior that really isn't that important.
Given that, who do you think the top "somebodys" are?
Originally posted by sicone maybe also no matter the size of the wallet or number of hits, the ones who remember what it was like to be a little newb and is willing to offer advice and/or help
Very well said. There are 2 things to consider here though.
1: They may have tried to help others and been burned way before you came around.
2: The average newb is a compete fucking idiot or has yet to stand out from the rest of his classmates. We need time to filter this shit damn it!
In this business climate I think an individual is a "somebody" if they have longevity.
With the way and speed things change in this industry the person that is able to adapt and survive for the long haul has to be considered a somebody. (they need to do this in as honest of a way possible ie: not ripping people off along the way). They may not belong to a message board clique or have become a message board celebrity, but they have made something out of themselves regardless.
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Originally posted by KRL The ability to make things happen. Once you have that skill you can move mountains.
this is very true, but what happens in the case of the people that are just good actors here, and in real life , they do not have / or do what they say they do, or portray themselves to be.... at some point there actually has to be some SUBSTANCE to the person, other than being a liar, and a self centered cheating backstabber does there not?
( I am not talking about anyone specific, just pointing out some additional mind candy for you)
if a person talks to you about someone behind there back, there is a good chaqnce they will do it to you also...
if a person cheats at anything no matter how small it is, guess what givin the chance they will cheat you too. (then brag about owning you and being some sort of big player)
Just like fighters, the true good ones do not need to tell people themselves how tough they are, other people will speak volumes for them and the toughest ones are usually the quietest ones..... the ones doing all the flash, and mouth usually can't fight their way out of a silk suit....
just some food for thought....
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Originally posted by shermsshack What merits a person as a "somebody" in your books?
Can you take a serious answer?
Power in this biz can come from lots of things. It's like a chess game: you don't win by one good move, you win by many good moves, each move creating a small advantage.
Money, if well managed, buys programmers and other employees, and that is a kind of power. That is the end result, however. To get there you slog your way up.
Having a #1 ranking on google is another kind of power. Not as good as having made it, but you have something going on, you're on top of your own little world, truckloads of link requests coming in every day, you are driving.
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