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01-28-2004, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

depending on the country, tolerance, freedom, healthcare ... does holland waste millions, billions of dollars on a "war on drugs" and lock up basically harmless people for burning doobies? no ... this is bullshit coming from the reagan years used as an election tool when crack was coming out. and they put more effort into rehabiltation of hard drug addicts rather than just locking them away.

also death penalty ... ridiculous that it is still existing in the USA ... state sponsored murder. If you are trying to send the message that murder is wrong, then why are you murdering yourself? Death penalty again is a campaign tool. People get off on it and if a politician is in favor of it then they can count on votes ...

Christians have way too much influence over the gov't in the USA ... where there is supposed to be seperation of church and state.

I am no subversive, i love living in florida, i am free to do as i please (since i dont smoke dope anymore) but i am not a flag waiver ... this isnt football, its life, and ignorance and nationalism is dangerous.

nothing pisses me off more than the "Choose Life" license tags in Florida ... i want to run these people off the road. I want a license tag that says "Pro Choice" with a picture of a coat hanger on it.

now dont call me a baby killer, im against late term abortions, and im fed up with the trailer trash that are too irresponsible to use protection, and instead go have 10 abortions... but better that than an unwanted unloved child.

Very good post.
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01-28-2004, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by Mikey_219Inc

depending on the country, tolerance, freedom, healthcare ... does holland waste millions, billions of dollars on a "war on drugs" and lock up basically harmless people for burning doobies? no ... this is bullshit coming from the reagan years used as an election tool when crack was coming out. and they put more effort into rehabiltation of hard drug addicts rather than just locking them away.

also death penalty ... ridiculous that it is still existing in the USA ... state sponsored murder. If you are trying to send the message that murder is wrong, then why are you murdering yourself? Death penalty again is a campaign tool. People get off on it and if a politician is in favor of it then they can count on votes ...

Christians have way too much influence over the gov't in the USA ... where there is supposed to be seperation of church and state.

I am no subversive, i love living in florida, i am free to do as i please (since i dont smoke dope anymore) but i am not a flag waiver ... this isnt football, its life, and ignorance and nationalism is dangerous.

nothing pisses me off more than the "Choose Life" license tags in Florida ... i want to run these people off the road. I want a license tag that says "Pro Choice" with a picture of a coat hanger on it.

now dont call me a baby killer, im against late term abortions, and im fed up with the trailer trash that are too irresponsible to use protection, and instead go have 10 abortions... but better that than an unwanted unloved child.

Agree on most points - I was more curious why France is the exception. Ignoring the tabloid crap and the uneducated bullshit that floats around, as a country it has quite a bit going for it. Biggest PITA there is simply too much red tape and taxes.

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01-28-2004, 03:22 AM

Secondly, an article was written by him saying that all Arabs are babykillers and then wanted to host discussion show the techincally falled under the news department heading. You can't be on such a show if you are known to be so clearly biased on the BBC. Largely do to it being publicly funded.

The police investigation was mentioned on BBC news. All the rest is unimportant. I don't care if he said all White people in Britian are ugly, stupid, and worthless - a police investigation??? Doesn't sound like freedom to me. Oh thats right, we wouldn't want to hurt someones feelings now...

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01-28-2004, 03:31 AM

I dont know what you have to do in Netherlands to go to jail for 20 years ... And in fact that its one of the safest placest in the world.. I never close my doors here. I never saw any violent issue and I never saw policeman talking loudly or trying to use his position for his own interests or ego ... The only case I had here is some kid put the sticker on my car , on the mercedes sign, and he came to us 2 days after and told me that he did it and he is very sorry about it and brought some chokolad as well.

If someone thinks that Europe sucks, just come here and see yourself.
Freedom means freedom here. Its very chilly place to live ...

Just my 2 euro cent

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01-28-2004, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by Chief

The police investigation was mentioned on BBC news. All the rest is unimportant. I don't care if he said all White people in Britian are ugly, stupid, and worthless - a police investigation??? Doesn't sound like freedom to me. Oh thats right, we wouldn't want to hurt someones feelings now...

That would be the commision for racial equality making a 'formal complaint' that the police are obliged to follow up no matter how weak it is. Little to do with 'freedom'.

A very confused and slightly simple individual aren't you?

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01-28-2004, 03:35 AM

Originally posted by diz

If someone thinks that Europe sucks, just come here and see yourself.
Freedom means freedom here. Its very chilly place to live ...

Just my 2 euro cent

In the context of Europe as a whole not true - just depends where you choose to live

Gotta love these threads. Uneducated and uninformed people shouting how ignorant they are at the top of their lungs. Always good for a laugh if nothing else (btw Diz - obviously not a comment aimed at you)

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01-28-2004, 03:37 AM

Are the EU likely to ban internet porn?...
highly unlikely in my opinion, how could you police this?
The internet isn't governed by any country
(although argubly the USA is probably the biggest player)

You're always going to get 'Mary Whitehouse' type MEP's with little or no knowledge of the internet chipping in what they think..

As for Kilroy, yes, he was generalising about arabs and arab nations which was what caused the uproar.

I didn't hear anything about the police investigation but the BBC have been suffering a backlash of bad publicity from a campaign to scrap the licence fee started by the newspaper that printed the article..

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#58

01-28-2004, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by Lykos
They can't ban it...it is way to difficult

Hey Lykos, let's keep our fingers crossed, man... I don't want to move to Thailand!

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01-28-2004, 03:44 AM

it is not possible to ban porn.

and what hte fuck are these morons doing in power? i often wonder what the hell is wrong with them. do they not like porn themselves? what makes idiots like this want to bring in idiotic laws.
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01-28-2004, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

That would be the commision for racial equality making a 'formal complaint' that the police are obliged to follow up no matter how weak it is. Little to do with 'freedom'.

A very confused and slightly simple individual aren't you?

I'll keep it simple..it was Kilroy and don't think it wasn't debated in the UK.
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01-28-2004, 03:50 AM

I'd love to go to europe and stay awhile. It's kind of irritating though when some europeans say things like "we're more free than the US." or "we know what real freedom is" when they have laws like are described in the article below when the US has nothing (that i'm aware of) that even comes close to that kind of restriction of free speech.
http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,56294,00.html
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01-28-2004, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by jas1552
It's kind of irritating though when some europeans say things like "we're more free than the US." or "we know what real freedom is"

Yea - like it was "kind of irritating" that people on this board jubilated because thousands of French people died during the heatwave last summer.
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01-28-2004, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by Maru

Yea - like it was "kind of irritating" that people on this board jubilated because thousands of French people died during the heatwave last summer.

Yeah, I can see how that might irritate you.
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01-28-2004, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy
Agree on most points - I was more curious why France is the exception. Ignoring the tabloid crap and the uneducated bullshit that floats around, as a country it has quite a bit going for it. Biggest PITA there is simply too much red tape and taxes.

French are the most nationalist people i have ever met, and they have a very strong right wing party which refer to their arabic population as "the brown pest" ... now, to their credit i will say they are not as ignorant to foreign affairs as (a major % of) americans are, but they like to keep to themselves...

Hard to explain my personal experience ... i just noticed a distinct difference between the people of france, and every other country ive been to. They seem closed off, defensive ... best i can explain ...

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01-28-2004, 04:03 AM

just a short notice
this is no tabloid bullshit here
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01-28-2004, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by jas1552

Yeah, I can see how that might irritate you.

I'm not French myself - I just felt it was out of place - even on GFY.

It would be like Europeans jubilating during the next earthquake in California. Schadenfreude is the German word for it.
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01-28-2004, 04:08 AM

Originally posted by Tipsy

In the context of Europe as a whole not true - just depends where you choose to live

Gotta love these threads. Uneducated and uninformed people shouting how ignorant they are at the top of their lungs. Always good for a laugh if nothing else (btw Diz - obviously not a comment aimed at you)

I live here only few years and I traveled alot in Europe..
I share only my personal experience. I am not heavy political person and I dont watch news This is a good side of an european lifestyle. People dont fucking care of media while in US it looks like media managing everything. People in Europe care about different things then in US. Thats why there is impression of more freedom.. I dont have anything that can influence on the way I think or on the way I do something. Nothing can change my freedom caz there is nothing and nobody trying to change it
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01-28-2004, 04:20 AM

Offcourse nothing against American lifestyle and for sure I dont think that you are all stupid there lol .. There are man many very smart people there as well as it makes a lot of positive steps for all kind of evolutions and keeps the most important place in the world

Hummm... What was the topic LOL ..
EU to ban Porn ..
NO WAY ..
You can fuck a neighbour horse here if he doesnt care LOL
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01-28-2004, 04:40 AM

anyway, I think this 'scare' is based on an article I posted last week:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=223530
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01-28-2004, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by picpile
fuck uk and their pounds also. nothing like paying 10.00 usd for some damn kfc in london

How do you think we like it??? we get a nice big check through only for it to be shreaded due to the fucking exchange rate!!

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01-28-2004, 04:55 AM

nobody can ban porn in general but some types of porn
should be banned.

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01-28-2004, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by Maru
Schadenfreude is the German word for it.

shameful happiness ...

on a lighter note ... why do germans call their pubes "shame hair"

Thats funny

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01-28-2004, 05:08 AM

apparently that swedish woman is a communist to..
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01-28-2004, 06:08 AM

That would be the commision for racial equality making a 'formal complaint' that the police are obliged to follow up no matter how weak it is. Little to do with 'freedom'.

I am just wondering why the Police get involved with such things? Seems a bit insane that the police get involved with regards to such things.

Also, about the BBC being unbiased - give me a break. The very fact that they refer to people such as Le Pen with the word 'extreme'-right is biased enough. Such keywords are simply dropped in by the overly left-wing press.
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01-28-2004, 06:11 AM

The more they complain about it, the more exposure they are giving to the issue which means more sign ups in my opinion, so I say bring it on!!

They'll never be able to accomplish it anyway.
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01-28-2004, 08:15 AM

EU have been making lots of stupid laws - just take "Digital VAT"

I would not be surprised if EU Politicians can make somekind of anti porn law covered in anti prostitution laws or anti women trading laws. Politicians usual think they will solve a problem by making a law - their logic is flawed, however that does not keep them for making new laws no one will follow.

Never Underestimate the Power of Stupid Politicians in Large Groups - like the EU

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01-28-2004, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by SGS
Anyone who thinks that porn is going to be outlawed in the EU knows absolutely nothing about Europe.

Porn will be banned in the US long before they even think about it over here.

These kind of stories are just tabloid shit or no-name officials trying to get famous.

What he says.

I'm amazed so many people actually believe these bullshit stories.
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01-28-2004, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Ron2k1

What he says.

I'm amazed so many people actually believe these bullshit stories.

no doubt they are eating their straight bananas at the same time as posting
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01-28-2004, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by Ron2k1

What he says.

I'm amazed so many people actually believe these bullshit stories.

the story is no bullshit man
its fucking true

however i believe this will never go live
but it is true
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01-28-2004, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Trax

the story is no bullshit man
its fucking true

however i believe this will never go live
but it is true

okey that's what I meant
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01-28-2004, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by Ron2k1

okey that's what I meant
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01-28-2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Odin88
Also, about the BBC being unbiased - give me a break. The very fact that they refer to people such as Le Pen with the word 'extreme'-right is biased enough. Such keywords are simply dropped in by the overly left-wing press.

the BBC haven't got a murdoch or someone behind them or have any direct government control and hence are probably one of the most unbiased news agency's in the world.

in relation to any mainstream politicians in europe, Le Pen is one of the most right wing politicians around, so it's fair enough to call him extreme.
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