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  • eroswebmaster
    March 1st, 2003
    • Jul 2001
    • 20295

    #1

    SE Traffic: I've Seen The Light

    Amazing the difference a pr ranking makes...I kinda feel like Steve Martin when he found out his "purpose," in the Jerk...I like this...I like it uh lot
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  • ryph
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1225

    #2

    I've taken some hits, but se traffic is nice=]
    tom at ryphs dot com

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    • Odin88
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 3267

      #3
      Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.

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      • Thrawn$
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2002
        • 4596

        #4
        Gimme me the light
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        • ryph
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2002
          • 1225

          #5
          Originally posted by Odin88
          Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.
          dont focus on any one keyword/phrase on any one site. you get penalized on a certain term, another may get boosted. it's all about not stressing when a serious update happens. yes, ive learned this the hard way. lol
          tom at ryphs dot com

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          • nap
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 2765

            #6
            quick question: Will I burn myself out if a create a different webpage for every single different phrase i'm going after? I have about 150 phrases right now that I would like and right now i have been creating a webpage for each phrase(i'm on 3/150). just curious if this is the method that the majority use

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            • GonePhishing
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2003
              • 2474

              #7
              I've always found that a little SE traffic beats any other kind.
              If Biff Fucks My Mom... I Might Never Be Born...

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              • DirtyRider
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2003
                • 832

                #8
                I seem to get really good spots for models and other sites, but if someone is looking for a specific model or pay site by name, chances are they are looking for free content. Unless its a niche search term.
                Currently selling for me: Paper Street Cash (MomPerv, ShopLyfter, Swappz, Family Strokes)

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                • Zprogramz
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Odin88
                  Yep, SE traffic rules, but don't get too comfortable with it. Google changes all the time, and unless you really have a diverse range of SE networks, one update can be the end of you.
                  Great advise and very true

                  Z

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                  • hershie
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4642

                    #10
                    I just started building a few free sites targetting s.e. traffic around a specific small niche and can't believe how fast the traffic has rolled in and Page Rank has shot up.

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                    • hershie
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 4642

                      #11
                      I think its obviously time to invest in WordTracker to get the most of SEO. Is there anything else out there like WordTracker I should consider?

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                      • Mr Pheer
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 22082

                        #12
                        Google is an easy animal to crack once you figure it out.

                        Dont think so small and you may do ok

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                        • funkmaster
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 7938

                          #13
                          www.webpry.com / www.uchase.com (non adult)

                          ... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.

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                          • Snake Doctor
                            I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 13449

                            #14
                            Originally posted by funkmaster
                            www.webpry.com / www.uchase.com (non adult)

                            ... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
                            So you think having the SE traffic hit your page, click a link, and sending them to another list of search results is more profitable than sending them to a site or presenting them with a list of sites that's relevant to their search?
                            sig too big

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                            • vicki
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 1478

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nap
                              quick question: Will I burn myself out if a create a different webpage for every single different phrase i'm going after? I have about 150 phrases right now that I would like and right now i have been creating a webpage for each phrase(i'm on 3/150). just curious if this is the method that the majority use
                              No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

                              easy method tip if you don't have a script:
                              keep them all within the same genre
                              put your original in one folder
                              use acdsee to create 150 new folders
                              copy and paste your original into those new folders
                              open those new indexes 25 or so at a time in your html editor
                              change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
                              name the folder the same as the title
                              interlink using a php call
                              upload the folders

                              oversimplified but effective
                              If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

                              HR merchant accounts from 3.45%
                              solid biz since 98
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                              • funkmaster
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 7938

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Lenny2


                                So you think having the SE traffic hit your page, click a link, and sending them to another list of search results is more profitable than sending them to a site or presenting them with a list of sites that's relevant to their search?
                                NO, I don't think it is, I know it is !!!!

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                                • Snake Doctor
                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                  • Mar 2001
                                  • 13449

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by funkmaster


                                  NO, I don't think it is, I know it is !!!!
                                  Interesting.

                                  SE's aren't my thing so I'll have to take your word for it.


                                  BTW....are you affiliated with the company you recommend sending the SE traffic to?
                                  sig too big

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                                  • funkmaster
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Sep 2001
                                    • 7938

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Lenny2

                                    BTW....are you affiliated with the company you recommend sending the SE traffic to?
                                    ... I am the project manager.

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                                    • pradaboy
                                      sell me your banners
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 12931

                                      #19
                                      yeh SE traffic rulez! Google is very lovable
                                      Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
                                      FREE to register domains...
                                      Better than 99% of the crap sold here!

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                                      • iwantchixx
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 12860

                                        #20
                                        yeah, SE traffic rocks when it's not being torn from your grasps by google updates that list cloakers all over the first 3 pages of results and your honnestly attained listings are GONE.


                                        ask me if I'm bitter... ASK ME!

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                                        • MetaformX
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 6704

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pradaboy
                                          yeh SE traffic rulez! Google is very lovable
                                          I only use google for getting my rocks off

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                                          • Nyght
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 438

                                            #22
                                            Hey Vicki,
                                            Why use the php call to interlink the pages and not just hard link them?

                                            Thanks

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                                            • vicki
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 1478

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Nyght
                                              Hey Vicki,
                                              Why use the php call to interlink the pages and not just hard link them?

                                              Thanks
                                              they're easier to change (change one file and it updates on all pages with that call)

                                              as your # of domains/sites/pages grow, you'll find that different sites will gain higher PR and traffic. When that happens you'll want to use them as your aces in the hole to boost others, therefore you'll need to drop and add on a semi regular basis as time goes by.


                                              another hint - place at least one EMPTY php call on your pages for future use

                                              hope that helps ;)
                                              If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                                              • Odin
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2004
                                                • 2545

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by vicki


                                                they're easier to change (change one file and it updates on all pages with that call)

                                                as your # of domains/sites/pages grow, you'll find that different sites will gain higher PR and traffic. When that happens you'll want to use them as your aces in the hole to boost others, therefore you'll need to drop and add on a semi regular basis as time goes by.


                                                another hint - place at least one EMPTY php call on your pages for future use

                                                hope that helps ;)
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                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 13449

                                                  #25
                                                  I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

                                                  Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
                                                  sig too big

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                                                  • SleazyDream
                                                    I'm here for SPORT
                                                    • Jul 2001
                                                    • 41470

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                    I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

                                                    Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
                                                    lol
                                                    This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                    Now read without the word dog.

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                                                    • montel
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 2606

                                                      #27
                                                      use this tool to see where you are ranked:
                                                      Google Rankings
                                                      Barefootsies

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                                                      • Trax
                                                        [----------------------]
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 14486

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by montel
                                                        use this tool to see where you are ranked:
                                                        Google Rankings
                                                        good webmasters go to google.com to check where they are in the top 3

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                                                        • Thomas
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 277

                                                          #29
                                                          google is doing weird the last few days

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                                                          • eroswebmaster
                                                            March 1st, 2003
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 20295

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                            I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

                                                            Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
                                                            for me it was pure luck...I don't really understand the seo game just bits and pieces...I'll take it where I can get it tho'.

                                                            I'm not making a killing but it's good cash...I would just love to learn to duplicate something even remotely similar across a number of domains etc.
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                                                            • DutchTeenCash
                                                              I like Dutch Girls
                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                              • 21684

                                                              #31
                                                              hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

                                                              sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?

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                                                              • slackologist
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                • 2379

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by funkmaster
                                                                www.webpry.com / www.uchase.com (non adult)

                                                                ... send your SE traffic that way and make the most out of it ... send it somewhere else and you'll be losing money ... it's up to you and I DO KNOW what I am talking about.
                                                                i'd rather sell you my crap traffic and make a killing on the real SE traffic myself than let someone else make that money from my own work and give you _the middle man_ a cut in the process.
                                                                nice business model though!

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                                                                • Mr Pheer
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 22082

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                  hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

                                                                  sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?
                                                                  I can do it, get you thousands of listings, but it damn sure wont be that cheap

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                                                                  • AdultNex
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                    • 8985

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by vicki


                                                                    No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

                                                                    easy method tip if you don't have a script:
                                                                    keep them all within the same genre
                                                                    put your original in one folder
                                                                    use acdsee to create 150 new folders
                                                                    copy and paste your original into those new folders
                                                                    open those new indexes 25 or so at a time in your html editor
                                                                    change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
                                                                    name the folder the same as the title
                                                                    interlink using a php call
                                                                    upload the folders

                                                                    oversimplified but effective
                                                                    Over, oversimplified.

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                                                                    • AdultNex
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 8985

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                      I love watching people talk about their google rankings.

                                                                      Every time a page of theirs makes the top 10 its "good seo" and "honestly attained listings" and whenever they get bumped by someone else it was because the other webmaster "cheated"
                                                                      Very true. Anyways, on most competitive keywords, who doesn't "cheat"?

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                                                                      • Odin
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2004
                                                                        • 2545

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by AdultNex


                                                                        Very true. Anyways, on most competitive keywords, who doesn't "cheat"?
                                                                        Me?
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                                                                        • hjnet
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 3815

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by funkmaster


                                                                          ... I am the project manager.
                                                                          Just a hint, you might wanna redo your TOS.

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                                                                          • vicki
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2002
                                                                            • 1478

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by thinkx
                                                                            hmm we need better rankings still noone has time and knowledge here to do that... ive posted to ask someone to get us a ranking on google with dutch & teen as keywords for our sites (dutchteenamateurs naomilove dutchdreamdate etc) this guy offered his services no downpayment $500 per site and *vanished*

                                                                            sigh... anyone else who really can do that and keep it up as well ?
                                                                            I dunno, I think one of the problems is there are no guarantees in the SE world.
                                                                            There are alot of GFY'ers that I know for a fact do very good optimisations but when there is a big change in algos (as happened recently) there isn't one of us out here that can predict the outcome.
                                                                            I personally had several sites that had top 5 listings in google for highly competitive terms .. and had kept that position for over 2 years get bumped down
                                                                            But at the same time I had others that previously had lower listings get bumped way up.
                                                                            The interesting thing is, I still hold #1 or 2 spots for the original terms in Yahoo and placed very high in AV. Its definately and interesting game LOL

                                                                            IMHO anyone that optimizes for, or asks for high ranking on one specific engine is shooting their own foot especially with the impending changes coming.

                                                                            Another factor is that your sites are paysites if I'm not mistaken. Its rare to see a paysite itself get top rankings without having paid inclusions. Lots of reasons for that including the graphical angle. Its normally hubs/feeders that can concentrate more heavily on PR and text optimization you'll find with high listings.

                                                                            I doubt anyone here would offer you what you want for the $500 you mentioned ... but then again ya never know ;)
                                                                            If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

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                                                                            solid biz since 98
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                                                                            • vicki
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 1478

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by AdultNex


                                                                              Over, oversimplified.
                                                                              lol at least *I* offered some tips!! {hint hint nudge nudge} lol
                                                                              Last edited by vicki; 01-28-2004, 04:14 AM.
                                                                              If at first you do succeed - try to hide your astonishment.

                                                                              HR merchant accounts from 3.45%
                                                                              solid biz since 98
                                                                              victoriakozub AT gmail.com
                                                                              skype: victoria.kozub | ICQ: 74296746

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                                                                              • Steve
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                                • 6894

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by vicki


                                                                                lol at least *I* offered some tips!! {hint hint nudge nudge} lol
                                                                                I guess you feel that you have made more than enough money, and it is a good idea to let others cut into the piece of pie that you figured out.

                                                                                If someone asks you how you're doing, just tell them things suck. They'll leave you alone, and you wont be cutting your own throat by giving away your own business plans.

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                                                                                • wimpy
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                  • 607

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  The way to work engines today is to manage your links correctly.

                                                                                  I manage links. If you don't know how to do it yourself, ICQ me and I'll do it for you.
                                                                                  Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind."

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                                                                                  • penguina
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                    • 222

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    you all should give www.sex.com a try for your ppc search engine traffic....

                                                                                    my bad for spamming..but, i thought i would throw that into the ring...since this thread was on the topic...'

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                                                                                    • rebel23
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 817

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by penguina
                                                                                      my bad for spamming..but, i thought i would throw that into the ring...since this thread was on the topic...'
                                                                                      uh, no it wasn't, funkmaster's spam was... yours wasn't, no one mentioned PPC
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                                                                                      • AdultNex
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 8985

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by rebel23


                                                                                        uh, no it wasn't, funkmaster's spam was... yours wasn't, no one mentioned PPC
                                                                                        Sex.com is known for inserting their URL in forum posts... It's normal spam for them.

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                                                                                        • Tuga
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                          • 7678

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by penguina
                                                                                          you all should give www.sex.com a try for your ppc search engine traffic....

                                                                                          my bad for spamming..but, i thought i would throw that into the ring...since this thread was on the topic...'
                                                                                          Guess what? I would try sex.com if you didnt SPAM every fucking thread you can.

                                                                                          Go Fuck Yourself!
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                                                                                          • phogirl69
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                                                            • 3330

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by vicki


                                                                                            No, you won't burn yourself unless you DON'T do that .. trust me ;)

                                                                                            easy method tip if you don't have a script:
                                                                                            keep them all within the same genre
                                                                                            put your original in one folder
                                                                                            use acdsee to create 150 new folders
                                                                                            copy and paste your original into those new folders
                                                                                            open those new indexes 25 or so at a time in your html editor
                                                                                            change the title tag and use a P tag (full text paragrahp) containing one of the 150 phrases from that same genre
                                                                                            name the folder the same as the title
                                                                                            interlink using a php call
                                                                                            upload the folders

                                                                                            oversimplified but effective
                                                                                            Does anyone know where I can purchase a script that will do this? I need a script that will make thousands of pages, each aimed at a specific keyword.... All the big dogs in Google have thousands upon thousands of pages for every book in the niche, any automation scripts for sale that can accomplish this or are they all using custom scripts?

                                                                                            Also, another question I have...

                                                                                            Is a page rank of 4 with a fresh tag "date" next to it in Google sufficient to get hundreds of targeted keyword pages into Google?

                                                                                            Or should I sign up for Seguru or Clickmojo and get a domain with at least PR of 7 or 8 to boost my feeder pages? Will the PR 4 with freshbot do?

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                                                                                            • AdultNex
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                              • 8985

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by phogirl69


                                                                                              Does anyone know where I can purchase a script that will do this? I need a script that will make thousands of pages, each aimed at a specific keyword.... All the big dogs in Google have thousands upon thousands of pages for every book in the niche, any automation scripts for sale that can accomplish this or are they all using custom scripts?

                                                                                              Also, another question I have...

                                                                                              Is a page rank of 4 with a fresh tag "date" next to it in Google sufficient to get hundreds of targeted keyword pages into Google?

                                                                                              Or should I sign up for Seguru or Clickmojo and get a domain with at least PR of 7 or 8 to boost my feeder pages? Will the PR 4 with freshbot do?
                                                                                              Do it by hand.

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                                                                                              • Ironhorse
                                                                                                Pixel Pusher
                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                • 7094

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Hehe, I love the Eureka moments
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                                                                                                • SEGuru
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 1005

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AdultNex


                                                                                                  Do it by hand.
                                                                                                  As posted in another thread...the other option is to boost PR on your own chosen domains.

                                                                                                  Drop me an ICQ at 28495329 and I'll show ya how we do it.
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                                                                                                  • ges
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                                                                    • 132

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I did recode my script for google a few months ago and turn it into a dedicated google server with a few IPs and about 150 domains and last uptdate was great for me.
                                                                                                    10.000 uniques/day from google do great for me this month.

                                                                                                    Hope it'll stay like that for months

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